haha, what was gerrard saying there and did he tell him to "fuck off" there at the end?
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Football Thread 2011/12 |OT8| Made it to the Championship play-offs
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haha, what was gerrard saying there and did he tell him to "fuck off" there at the end?
I think Southampton, Chelsea and City are the only category 1 teams in the new EPPP system, but I'm not sure exactly what that measures?
Arsenal's youth set up is located in Barcelona though.
Phoenix Fang
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I don't understand that train of thought with Daglish either. Players like Pacheco never given a chance, instead loaned out. Silva on loan, few others are just sitting on the bench. Why is Coates on the bench when Carra is starting? I like Carra but he just can't handle the pace anymore.
I think there are quite a few that look promising:
Suso
Coady
Morgan
Sterling
Wisdom
Nacho
Silva
Sterling
Teixeira
Mr. Luchador
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Pretty much the same. Suso on the ball/your team is attacking is fantastic. Off the ball and you may as well play with 10 men. Not sure I've seen him perform a full 90minutes to the same level when he's attacking as well, fades in and out of the game a lot.
Sterling has some talent, and clearly the potential, but I really want to see if he can perform as he does against more experienced defenders. He was tearing kids apart with his skills and acceleration, but I saw the same with Kezenga LuaLua. Easy to do when the opposition give you all that time and space and fear you. Will senior teams do the same?
The other one was Toni Silva, who has apparently went out on loan somewhere. He's like a mixture of Suso and Sterling.
Vivalaraza
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Definitely neither Arsenal or United.
Middlesbrough, West Ham and Blackburn seem to have done well in recent years.
Mr. Luchador
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Investment.
Coaches to Player ratio (and qualifications coaches hold)
Number of hours coaching youth players receive
Facilities offered.
Various other little details too.
Gareth Bale
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Ahhh what was that?
Phoenix Fang
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Sterling played really well against an Everton and Arsenal reserve side which had a lot of experienced players on it.
I'd imagine it's because Coates is a young player who doesn't have much experience at this level. Throw a player into the mix too early, especially a young foreign player, and you risk damaging their confidence massively.
That's exactly what happened when we signed Paletta. He was a very highly rated young defender who was thrown in too early and it broke him.
Vivalaraza
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Our academy won it's first game for something like 4 months just the other day. I think it was against Newcastle actually.
The team isn't very good this year, although it has reached the Youth Cup Semi's. Last year's team was very good, expect 2/3 PL players to come from it.
Mr. Luchador
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Players rarely give a damn or perform to 100%, certainly first teamers playing to regain fitness or are just plain out of favour. One of the reasons they're scrapping the reserve league and turning it into an U21/Development competition.
Yup 2-1. Our Keeper played well, so you probably should have won by a bit more. Carrington is a bit of a boogie ground for us.
Yeah, read that during the game. Happy for him, hope he does well. Such a legend at Liverpool. I've wanted him as some sort of defensive coach here.
Could easily see him as a future manager of Liverpool if does well in Germany.
I think the players and coaches both know that results mean very little in terms of youth teams. Developing the talent is really all its there for, and you can have talented players and still lose a lot of games.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Bloody hard to measure. My (unqualified) thought was that City, Arsenal, Chelsea and to a lesser extent United were producing the most talented young players in England.
However, the most successful clubs at these levels seem to be:
Academy League - Arsenal are the most common winners.
FA Youth Cup - United, Liverpool and Arsenal are pretty common winners.
Premier Reserve League - United, Liverpool and Villa seem common winners.
Mr. Luchador
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Man U tend to put their more talented players into the Reserve/Development set up straight away, only playing them in Youth Cup games at Youth Level.
In terms of players produced that are playing in the Premiership I don't think anyone has produced more than Man U.
In terms of players produced that are playing in the Premiership I don't think anyone has produced more than Man U.
I hope it's not for awhile, if it happens. I'd really like our future manager to be one who is hired based on his astute tactics, not on his meaning to the club.
Vivalaraza
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Thing is, the "top" clubs have a lot of lads who have been developed elsewhere playing for their academy sides. In terms of playings rising up through an academy from a very young age to pro level...I don't think United/City/Liverpool/Chelsea/Arsenal actually fare that well, or particularly better than other clubs.
Take Pogba for example, or even Fabio and Rafael. Both played for our academy but the bulk of their development took place elsewhere.
Take Pogba for example, or even Fabio and Rafael. Both played for our academy but the bulk of their development took place elsewhere.
There was a statistic I came across which suggested something like x% of players had spent time at our academy. Can't remember what the figure was but I remember it being surprisingly high, gonna look for it now.
Yeah, Liverpool do the same. Our reserve team is filled with mostly u18s
LabouredSubterfuge
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And Balotelli scored two goals. Mancini's losing it.
Yup! Hype.
I have faith in Juve, so much so I've just bet a sizeable amount on you winning. Don't let me down Yurt!
Gareth Bale
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Wow, great strike and great save
When?
Bad idea! Especially with Borriellol starting, we're not even going to score tonight lol
Sveitadurgur
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If by that you mean "get a stupid early goal then proceed to slaughter them with 3+ goals" then yeah, sure.
Lovely day. If I wasn't so hungover I'd consider leaving the house.
Meus Renaissance
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Great goal.
Oh god, Neville is so awful as a commentator
Oh god, Neville is so awful as a commentator
Gareth Bale
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Really good finish that
Game of Thrones returns today at 9 pm, if I'm not mistaken.
The Friendly Monster
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Swansea are cool.
Sveitadurgur
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GYLFI!! That's mah boy right there, so leathal outside the box!
Mr. Luchador
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Oh yeah! Back in the number 1 spot!
Its still 80s/90s in Holland, apparently.
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