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Football Thread 2011/2012 | OT11 | Roll on the Euros and transfer muppetry
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I always feel like, when it's reported in The Times, it's official.
The_Hitcher89
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Kagawa for 12 million? Fuck's sake, I'd rather have him than all 4 of Carroll, Downing, Henderson and Adam. Although I think Henderson will be fine in a couple of years, and Carroll is alright for now. What a joke of a partnership Kenny and Commoli were, spending money like Man City on midtable players. And its no surprise that with dealings like that, we ended up with a midtable finish and the two of them unceremniously thrown out of the door.
Dark Machine
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Shows that being in the Champions League doesn't ALWAYS mean you pay more for players. Because you know, they might actually want to play for you as well!
Broder Salsa
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Helps that he only got 1 year left of his contract.
ESPN are saying the new Liverpool manager will be announced on Friday.
Down to Rodgers and Martinez (no surprise there). The fact Martinez is supposedly balking at the technical director involvement is what put Rodgers back in the race.
http://m.espn.go.com/soccer/story?storyId=1081630&leagueTag=ENG.1&lang=EN&leagueTag=ENG.1&top
Down to Rodgers and Martinez (no surprise there). The fact Martinez is supposedly balking at the technical director involvement is what put Rodgers back in the race.
http://m.espn.go.com/soccer/story?storyId=1081630&leagueTag=ENG.1&lang=EN&leagueTag=ENG.1&top
The_Hitcher89
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If it has to be one of them, I'd rather it was Rodgers
The_Hitcher89
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Still rumours, nobody's denied them yet and they've been around for 4 or so days now though
Vivalaraza
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Heh, the Guardian have run with something similar, saying it's an "austerity signing". No doubt we are feeling the pinch big time, but signing Shinji won't be indicative of that. The guy scored 17 goals and made 13 assists in 40 games last season. That is a hell of a record, only two players scored + assisted more than 15/15 and they're Leo and...Hazard (who scored 8 of his 20 from the penalty spot). Kagawa really is a gem of a player and we're dead lucky to have caught him when his contract was running down. The commercial side of things will be a bonus.
Just rumour but heavily linked.
BTW, the Dzeko story has been rubbished by a couple of English journo's tonight. Not that it means anything, our journalists don't seem to know shit anymore, but yeah, thought it'd interest you.
It's more to combine the article with Kantar reporting stats re: Manchester United fanbase. Lazy Journalism.
I think the interest is real, but he's far from being the only option for striker position.
Vivalaraza
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Who. The. F**k. Is. Richard. Arnold.
Sack. Him.
Naw.
bonesmccoy
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Man, that looks to be a fantastic piece of business.
Does this mean Valencia is out?
Do you mean nani or park?
Vivalaraza
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Nani rumours are just based on the club taking a precaution and seeing who would be interested in buying him if contract talks broke down. But they really shouldn't. We have no reason to want rid of him and he has gone on record a few times saying he loves it at United and wants to sign a new deal. Looking into the possibility of selling should we have to is just a common sense approach, doesn't meant the club want to sell him.
S'all cool. Nani is staying and will be better than ever next season.
S'all cool. Nani is staying and will be better than ever next season.
Was this posted yesterday?
And United still finished near the top only losing on goal difference.
All hail Ferguson..
Tim the Wiz
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Kagawa almost done. 
Nani will renew. Doubt the Baines rumours, he's outside our usual age bracket. More likely we sign Clyne, as well as this Powell kid. Just need that CM and it's a good summer.
Nani will renew. Doubt the Baines rumours, he's outside our usual age bracket. More likely we sign Clyne, as well as this Powell kid. Just need that CM and it's a good summer.cartoon_soldier
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Kagawa almost done.
We need an evra replacement
Kagawa almost done.
That CM will hopefully be Modric, though more than likely no. We should hijack M'Vila from Arsenal!
Tim the Wiz
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I think I've been talking about M'Vila for years. That would be the ultimate summer. Modric just seems... unlikely, for a variety of reasons (age, fee, etc.).
There were also some reports that we put in a bid for Asamoah that got rejected - I've no idea how real they were - but perhaps it was simply an opening bid to test the waters, and as with our negotiation with BVB over Kagawa, it'll eventually get over the line. He'd be a good option, too; not in the technical class of M'Vila, but a nice versatile midfielder, as anyone who watches the Italian league could tell you.
But, who knows? Fergie might believe that Anderson, Fletcher and Cleverley will return and have an injury free season.
When you think back to the way Fergie moved on Stam, maybe the Baines link is real, but I doubt it. Whenever Fergie talks about the need for experience in the squad, Evra is one of the first people he name-checks. I'd say it's more likely we bring in some young competition, even if the Clyne rumours have cooled down, or use Evans as a stopgap if he suffers his first injury in forever. And hopefully, Fabio impresses on loan - he certainly did well in a CL final.
There were also some reports that we put in a bid for Asamoah that got rejected - I've no idea how real they were - but perhaps it was simply an opening bid to test the waters, and as with our negotiation with BVB over Kagawa, it'll eventually get over the line. He'd be a good option, too; not in the technical class of M'Vila, but a nice versatile midfielder, as anyone who watches the Italian league could tell you.
But, who knows? Fergie might believe that Anderson, Fletcher and Cleverley will return and have an injury free season.
When you think back to the way Fergie moved on Stam, maybe the Baines link is real, but I doubt it. Whenever Fergie talks about the need for experience in the squad, Evra is one of the first people he name-checks. I'd say it's more likely we bring in some young competition, even if the Clyne rumours have cooled down, or use Evans as a stopgap if he suffers his first injury in forever. And hopefully, Fabio impresses on loan - he certainly did well in a CL final.
I think I've been talking about M'Vila for years. That would be the ultimate summer. Modric just seems... unlikely, for a variety of reasons (age, fee, etc.).
There were also some reports that we put in a bid for Asamoah that got rejected - I've no idea how real they were - but perhaps it was simply an opening bid to test the waters, and as with our negotiation with BVB over Kagawa, it'll eventually get over the line. He'd be a good option, too; not in the technical class of M'Vila, but a nice versatile midfielder, as anyone who watches the Italian league could tell you.
But, who knows? Fergie might believe that Anderson, Fletcher and Cleverley will return and have an injury free season.
When you think back to the way Fergie moved on Stam, maybe the Baines link is real, but I doubt it. Whenever Fergie talks about the need for experience in the squad, Evra is one of the first people he name-checks. I'd say it's more likely we bring in some young competition, even if the Clyne rumours have cooled down, or use Evans as a stopgap if he suffers his first injury in forever. And hopefully, Fabio impresses on loan - he certainly did well in a CL final.
Lol well, the Euros will only increase M'Vila's price then MU wil be out of the running.
M'Vila will not be joining Arsenal. We wont spend that kind of money on a holding midfielder unfortunately.
Vivalaraza
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I really wish Fergie would just buy a solid DM, not even a spectacular one but just a big strong presence who can hustle and bustle, just for the bigger games or times when we need to pack the midfield. But he won't. He went on record just before the end of the season saying he's never signed DM's and doesn't see any reason for that to change. It's admirable that he wants "complete" box-to-box midfielders but it just exposes our defense too much and then when we play 4-3-3 we just lose too much of an attacking threat.I think I've been talking about M'Vila for years. That would be the ultimate summer. Modric just seems... unlikely, for a variety of reasons (age, fee, etc.).
There were also some reports that we put in a bid for Asamoah that got rejected - I've no idea how real they were - but perhaps it was simply an opening bid to test the waters, and as with our negotiation with BVB over Kagawa, it'll eventually get over the line. He'd be a good option, too; not in the technical class of M'Vila, but a nice versatile midfielder, as anyone who watches the Italian league could tell you.
But, who knows? Fergie might believe that Anderson, Fletcher and Cleverley will return and have an injury free season.
When you think back to the way Fergie moved on Stam, maybe the Baines link is real, but I doubt it. Whenever Fergie talks about the need for experience in the squad, Evra is one of the first people he name-checks. I'd say it's more likely we bring in some young competition, even if the Clyne rumours have cooled down, or use Evans as a stopgap if he suffers his first injury in forever. And hopefully, Fabio impresses on loan - he certainly did well in a CL final.
I guess that's where Kagawa will be crucial for us, because he has that ability to link the play. Even so, I can't see us buying a top notch deep lying play-maker right now so I wish we could bring a solid DM in. Someone like M'Vila is perfect because he actually has wonderful quality on the ball...but it won't happen. Still, should Carrick continue his brilliant form we should be okay-ish in CM. Some of the better midfields will give us trouble again but we should be much better in the 4-3-3.
Believe that Fergie will be willing to change!!!
When I first read that rumour I laughed and when I think about it i still laugh. Never ever happen...
Huge congrats man. happy for ya!!!
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Congrats dude, great day all around. Cold pizza next morning? Also GoT is epic
I wouldn't mind De Jong as cover for Song, but he really only functions in a midfield with two DMs. We haven't really had a midfielder whose job was basically only tackling since Flamini, but even he was decent on his own and could play the ball (the lack of a replacement for Flamini has basically crippled us for the past four years, and we have been paying the price again and again and again)... but if De Jong is the best we can get, fuck it. His wages are probably ridiculous, he's a shit tackler, and Wenger probably despises him anyways for the Alonso/Ben Arfa shit (and that he'll be eating into Frimpong's minutes D: ). New striker/center half/back-up right back plz.
Also slowly warming to the idea of not landing M'Vila. Wonder which bottom-of-the-barrel players Wenger will opt for instead when M'Vila and Van Persie inevitably both sign for City...
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