Anytime a Bayern player scores in these friendlies I am reminded of the CL-final and feel like crying.
They had it, dammit! They'll never dominate an opponent like that in a CL-final ever again. AT HOME! Why didn't they score? Why? Why?!!!
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Football Thread 2011/2012 | OT11 | Roll on the Euros and transfer muppetry
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Anytime a Bayern player scores in these friendlies I am reminded of the CL-final and feel like crying.
Vivalaraza
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Well, it's a shame this had to happen, but, let's get this show on the road...
Brendan Rodgers is an absolute dickhead.
Brendan Rodgers is an absolute dickhead.
Haha
Think he's carrying himself very well. Seems a little nervous, but speaking really honestly
Edit* What the hell is that Warrior #? 'WeComeNotToPlay' what?
Phantast2k
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Great, seems like Dortmund's trying to get the Turkish Gomez: Burak Yilmaz if the Schieber/de Jong deal doesn't go through.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mlmSa1tyjI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mlmSa1tyjI
Vivalaraza
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Yeah he does look nervous. Class act though, very likeable.
Only just noticed that Warrior slogan, no idea.. :S
Edit - Woah, B-Rod speaking out, no DoF for him.
Eugh, LFC getting all this business bullshit too now, "those on the football side of the business". It's a damn football club you idiot.
Probably a marketing thing.
we come not to play - we come to win
Shatner's Bassoon
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Liverpool FC - We come not to play.
From the bits I saw Rodgers looks like a very intelligent and well-spoken man with some great ideas and philosophies, hope it works out for him here. From what he and Ian "Michael Owen" Ayre said it seems like it's the rumoured Sporting & Technical directors structure as opposed to a DOF - ie how it always was, no idea why the media immediately jumped to the conclusion of no DOF = scrapping the entire structure.
I'd imagine Rogers would have raised a pretty big objection to working under Van Gaal specifically, he would probably have wanted too much power, not to mention the general difficulty of his personality. I speculated a few days ago that I couldn't see Martinez working under a presence like Van Gaal, seems the same is true for Rogers now that he is out of the picture & Txiki is back in.
Vivalaraza
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Hmm, apparently United are in negotiations with Al Jazeera to give them the rights to broadcast MUTV in the middle-east for £9m/year. Sounds good.
Wonder how many other ways there are left to whore the club out. Dat money, dat debt.
Wonder how many other ways there are left to whore the club out. Dat money, dat debt.
My loyalties are torn.
Love Rodgers (fellow NI man) but hate Liverpool.
I'M SO TORN.
Vivalaraza
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He's a mug.
"I will fight with my life for this City".
He's perfect for them. Soppy twats.
Phoenix Fang
Banned
Is it true or still just rumours?
Also is this the first time that a manager gets replaced by a manager that beat him in the last game of the season?
Vivalaraza
Member
This is what Ballague reckons.
That Duncan Jenkins seems quite sure he is in the frame also.
Rodgers' first interview with .tv:
How do you feel to be the new manager of this famous football club?
As you can imagine, I am very proud and feel very blessed to be appointed today. It's obviously a club with an incredible tradition and history and I'm very, very proud and honoured to be appointed manager.
How excited are you by the owners' plans and visions for the future?
I suppose I first of all want to mention Kenny Dalglish, who is an incredible man. He's obviously the best player in the history of this football club and he's someone who adored Liverpool. He has nursed the club through some horrific times and also brought a lot of joy to the supporters here both as a player and a manager. He is someone I want to pay a great respect to because he's a wonderful ambassador for this football club. But I'm a different tactician, a different man. The owners are very excited and looking forward, and obviously they wanted to bring someone in who could keep with the traditions of Liverpool Football Club, which is to play offensive and attacking football, and also someone to represent the values of the club off the field, and that's something I will defend for my life.
How difficult was it to leave Swansea?
It was very difficult. I always said I'd leave Swansea City one day but I felt it was only going to be for a top club. I had a fantastic relationship with the chairman and the supporters and also we created history - we were the first Welsh club into the Barclays Premier League. But the attraction of coming to Liverpool is phenomenal. You only need to look at the fact they're five times European Cup winners. Some of the great players who've played for this club. I genuinely think Liverpool Football Club is the heartland of football folklore. If you look back through the years, at the players and managers. You go back to Toshack and Keegan, Rush and Dalglish, Hansen and Lawrenson, Shankly and Paisley. Then you have the modern day in terms of Gerrard and Carragher. It's a club that's so full of history and tradition and passion.
How would you describe your own football philosophy?
The philosophy is very much based on the attacking side of the game. People ask me that question and I always say it's about being offensive and creative, but also with tactical discipline. If you look at the Swansea team in the last couple of years they've been lauded for their offensive approach but defensively we've kept many clean sheets and we're up there with the top defensive records. That's the principles of this club. This is a club that's based on fast, attacking, offensive football. But I'll repeat - it's very important to have tactical discipline within that. Your philosophy and your principles will always be governed by the players. There is a fantastic squad here, some terrific players, but there is no doubt I'll need to make maybe two, three or four additions to try and get that flow - and it will take time to put that in place.
Who are the influences on your managerial career?
I have been a student of the game. I've been coaching and managing for 20 years and travelled a lot as a coach. I've been very clear in my philosophy and had a clear vision in that since I was very young. My grandfather was a big supporter of Liverpool, along with my father, so I watched the late 70s and early 80s football. Obviously the Cruyff philosophy was very prominent because my dad was a big lover of Cruyff. As you move into the coaching, my philosophy has been a fusion between the British and the European. The single biggest influence would be Jose Mourinho, purely because he gave me the opportunity. I learned many things from Jose. He is a great man and the biggest thing he did for me is give me an opportunity and show belief in me, and give me that chance to work with top players.
The style you had at Swansea - would you hope to deploy a similar one here at Liverpool or does that depend on the players?
The principles of your game depend on the players but certainly that's a vision that I would hopefully over the next few years (implement). It certainly won't happen in game one because there are different types of players here. But over time, that's the ideology - to play that way. One, it's my belief, and two, it's the belief of the supporters. They enjoy watching it, and that's one of the biggest attractions coming here. Liverpool supporters are very educated in the game. We were here with Swansea earlier in the season and their style of football got a round of applause at the end of the game. That doesn't happen very often at away grounds.
Do you need time to build that philosophy here?
You do. There is no doubt about that. I'm very much a realist. It's certainly going to be a few years in relation to where the team is at now. It will need some investment and it will need time for me to work. But of course we're in the business of winning and winning games is important. But it's a philosophy and a style that's very much in the DNA of me and the club and hopefully we can roll that out over the years to come.
What does Liverpool Football Club mean to you personally?
For me it means an awful lot. There is a real emotional attachment. I've had a number of opportunities to leave Swansea and I wasn't going to leave Swansea for any club, because of my life both professional and personal. But the attraction of the history here, but also the attraction of the frustrations - to feel the club are still striving for that league title. Hopefully over the coming years that's something we can look to challenge for. Certainly not immediately, there are still a lot of improvements to be made. This is an iconic football club. It's a club that's up there with the world's great. When you talk Liverpool Football Club you're talking Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Inter Milan, AC Milan. It's an enormous club. The challenge and the motivation is for me to do the best I possibly can and I will always fight for my life for Liverpool, and that will be on and off the field.
How excited are you about some of the players you will be working with here?
I'm really looking forward to it. I spoke to Steven Gerrard last night. That was fantastic, I had a nice chat with him. I have always worked well with people. To me, it's doesn't matter whether they're big stars or not, the club's success is the most important and every player I work with will have to be a part of the team. There are some wonderful talents. If you look at the likes of Steven; Jamie Carragher has been a wonderful player for this football club; you've got Pepe Reina, who's a top, world-class goalkeeper, and many other talents within the group. I always have a close relationship with players. I speak very openly and honestly with them so they know where they stand. I like to educate players. You train dogs, I like to educate players both on and off the field.
Early days, of course, but have you identified transfer targets?
Again, it's important to assess the group, but having watched Liverpool I've certainly got an idea what could improve., that's for sure?
And have you spoken to the owners about a transfer budget?
Yes. There is money to spend. We haven't got the wheelbarrow overflowing. It's not falling out over the edges but there is money to spend. There are some terrific players here and big talents and I want to help improve them as players and as people. There will be some additions to improve and improve our way of playing as well.
Supporters here are desperate to get back in the Champions League - is that your own aim?
It's an aim for every manager at a top club. That's the holy grail, but also, in time, we want to be challenging for the title. For me, and it's not going to be straight away because that's not realistic, winning the title is something we want to achieve. It's not just aiming for fourth place. The Champions League is fantastic and that's where this club wants to be. It's going to be a process and ultimately, hopefully, that will take us up towards the top of the league and challenging. That's where this club belongs.
Finally, what would your message to Liverpool supporters be?
I'd just like to say, I'm honoured and blessed to be your manager. All I can promise is I'll fight for my life for the club. My family will move to the area and we're really excited about moving to the city of Liverpool, getting to know the football club and the people of Liverpool. I will leave no stone unturned in my quest - and that quest will be relentless - to try and get Liverpool back on the map again as a successful football club.
How do you feel to be the new manager of this famous football club?
As you can imagine, I am very proud and feel very blessed to be appointed today. It's obviously a club with an incredible tradition and history and I'm very, very proud and honoured to be appointed manager.
How excited are you by the owners' plans and visions for the future?
I suppose I first of all want to mention Kenny Dalglish, who is an incredible man. He's obviously the best player in the history of this football club and he's someone who adored Liverpool. He has nursed the club through some horrific times and also brought a lot of joy to the supporters here both as a player and a manager. He is someone I want to pay a great respect to because he's a wonderful ambassador for this football club. But I'm a different tactician, a different man. The owners are very excited and looking forward, and obviously they wanted to bring someone in who could keep with the traditions of Liverpool Football Club, which is to play offensive and attacking football, and also someone to represent the values of the club off the field, and that's something I will defend for my life.
How difficult was it to leave Swansea?
It was very difficult. I always said I'd leave Swansea City one day but I felt it was only going to be for a top club. I had a fantastic relationship with the chairman and the supporters and also we created history - we were the first Welsh club into the Barclays Premier League. But the attraction of coming to Liverpool is phenomenal. You only need to look at the fact they're five times European Cup winners. Some of the great players who've played for this club. I genuinely think Liverpool Football Club is the heartland of football folklore. If you look back through the years, at the players and managers. You go back to Toshack and Keegan, Rush and Dalglish, Hansen and Lawrenson, Shankly and Paisley. Then you have the modern day in terms of Gerrard and Carragher. It's a club that's so full of history and tradition and passion.
How would you describe your own football philosophy?
The philosophy is very much based on the attacking side of the game. People ask me that question and I always say it's about being offensive and creative, but also with tactical discipline. If you look at the Swansea team in the last couple of years they've been lauded for their offensive approach but defensively we've kept many clean sheets and we're up there with the top defensive records. That's the principles of this club. This is a club that's based on fast, attacking, offensive football. But I'll repeat - it's very important to have tactical discipline within that. Your philosophy and your principles will always be governed by the players. There is a fantastic squad here, some terrific players, but there is no doubt I'll need to make maybe two, three or four additions to try and get that flow - and it will take time to put that in place.
Who are the influences on your managerial career?
I have been a student of the game. I've been coaching and managing for 20 years and travelled a lot as a coach. I've been very clear in my philosophy and had a clear vision in that since I was very young. My grandfather was a big supporter of Liverpool, along with my father, so I watched the late 70s and early 80s football. Obviously the Cruyff philosophy was very prominent because my dad was a big lover of Cruyff. As you move into the coaching, my philosophy has been a fusion between the British and the European. The single biggest influence would be Jose Mourinho, purely because he gave me the opportunity. I learned many things from Jose. He is a great man and the biggest thing he did for me is give me an opportunity and show belief in me, and give me that chance to work with top players.
The style you had at Swansea - would you hope to deploy a similar one here at Liverpool or does that depend on the players?
The principles of your game depend on the players but certainly that's a vision that I would hopefully over the next few years (implement). It certainly won't happen in game one because there are different types of players here. But over time, that's the ideology - to play that way. One, it's my belief, and two, it's the belief of the supporters. They enjoy watching it, and that's one of the biggest attractions coming here. Liverpool supporters are very educated in the game. We were here with Swansea earlier in the season and their style of football got a round of applause at the end of the game. That doesn't happen very often at away grounds.
Do you need time to build that philosophy here?
You do. There is no doubt about that. I'm very much a realist. It's certainly going to be a few years in relation to where the team is at now. It will need some investment and it will need time for me to work. But of course we're in the business of winning and winning games is important. But it's a philosophy and a style that's very much in the DNA of me and the club and hopefully we can roll that out over the years to come.
What does Liverpool Football Club mean to you personally?
For me it means an awful lot. There is a real emotional attachment. I've had a number of opportunities to leave Swansea and I wasn't going to leave Swansea for any club, because of my life both professional and personal. But the attraction of the history here, but also the attraction of the frustrations - to feel the club are still striving for that league title. Hopefully over the coming years that's something we can look to challenge for. Certainly not immediately, there are still a lot of improvements to be made. This is an iconic football club. It's a club that's up there with the world's great. When you talk Liverpool Football Club you're talking Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Inter Milan, AC Milan. It's an enormous club. The challenge and the motivation is for me to do the best I possibly can and I will always fight for my life for Liverpool, and that will be on and off the field.
How excited are you about some of the players you will be working with here?
I'm really looking forward to it. I spoke to Steven Gerrard last night. That was fantastic, I had a nice chat with him. I have always worked well with people. To me, it's doesn't matter whether they're big stars or not, the club's success is the most important and every player I work with will have to be a part of the team. There are some wonderful talents. If you look at the likes of Steven; Jamie Carragher has been a wonderful player for this football club; you've got Pepe Reina, who's a top, world-class goalkeeper, and many other talents within the group. I always have a close relationship with players. I speak very openly and honestly with them so they know where they stand. I like to educate players. You train dogs, I like to educate players both on and off the field.
Early days, of course, but have you identified transfer targets?
Again, it's important to assess the group, but having watched Liverpool I've certainly got an idea what could improve., that's for sure?
And have you spoken to the owners about a transfer budget?
Yes. There is money to spend. We haven't got the wheelbarrow overflowing. It's not falling out over the edges but there is money to spend. There are some terrific players here and big talents and I want to help improve them as players and as people. There will be some additions to improve and improve our way of playing as well.
Supporters here are desperate to get back in the Champions League - is that your own aim?
It's an aim for every manager at a top club. That's the holy grail, but also, in time, we want to be challenging for the title. For me, and it's not going to be straight away because that's not realistic, winning the title is something we want to achieve. It's not just aiming for fourth place. The Champions League is fantastic and that's where this club wants to be. It's going to be a process and ultimately, hopefully, that will take us up towards the top of the league and challenging. That's where this club belongs.
Finally, what would your message to Liverpool supporters be?
I'd just like to say, I'm honoured and blessed to be your manager. All I can promise is I'll fight for my life for the club. My family will move to the area and we're really excited about moving to the city of Liverpool, getting to know the football club and the people of Liverpool. I will leave no stone unturned in my quest - and that quest will be relentless - to try and get Liverpool back on the map again as a successful football club.
Didn't Balague say Kenny was staying the day before he was sacked? Going on recent "form" I'd be more inclined to believe Duncan Jenkins.
Phoenix Fang
Banned
Hopefully those improvement includes getting rid of Adam, Spearing, and Downing.
Convincing Maxi to stay.
Giving more game time to Coates and Sterling. Promoting Suso and giving him some game time.
Either getting Henderson to be a proper footballer or getting rid of him altogether.
fadetoblack
Member
So, it seems Cavani is officially out of Juventus's reach. Between Cavani's posturings over wanting to win everything with Napoli, his post-Coppa celebrations, the fact that De Laurentiis is a mad man, and the high price tag, I'd be surprised if we snag him.
It does seem that Suarez and RVP are our top candidates. I think either is a definite improvement, but what worries me about Suarez is his finishing. I've seen him do some amazing stuff in the EPL but I've also seen him miss a dozen chances before chipping the keeper with his back towards goal as he dives into a swimming pool for a perfect-10 dive. I don't think this will be as much an issue in Serie A where the pace is slower (so he'll have more time), but I've seen enough missed chances this season to last a lifetime.
It does seem that Suarez and RVP are our top candidates. I think either is a definite improvement, but what worries me about Suarez is his finishing. I've seen him do some amazing stuff in the EPL but I've also seen him miss a dozen chances before chipping the keeper with his back towards goal as he dives into a swimming pool for a perfect-10 dive. I don't think this will be as much an issue in Serie A where the pace is slower (so he'll have more time), but I've seen enough missed chances this season to last a lifetime.
im not even mad at him. gomez makes me more angry to be honest. we would have won that final with a decent striker.
To be honest the whole team and the manager is to blame. Gomez missed easy chances, Robben missed his penalty, the Muller-Van Buyten substitution was a mistake because it changed a back 4 that had dealt well with Drogba for 85 minutes, and in the shootout nobody had the balls to step up. In the cold light of day it was a pathetic effort, I don't think I've ever seen a German side look so frightened in front of goal, especially in the shootout.
even more surprising after the penality shootout in madrid. i guess they were just too scared about the consequences in the end. and when u check some current interviews, they still seem to suffer because of that. especially schweinsteiger who missed the most important one
fadetoblack
Member
GAF, need help.
How the hell do you pronounce this surname? Boguszak.
How the hell do you pronounce this surname? Boguszak.
Boguschak?
Manchester City's Michael Johnson arrested on suspicion of drink-driving
Looks fantastic. Shirt that is.
Looks fantastic. Shirt that is.
You haven't seen the back of it. Notice the Lucas shrine above my TV.
Ah god, you should never go out without any tea. My entire body is shaking. I'm getting the train home in a bit too, gonna grab a Burger King as I pass through Manchester.
Facism
Gold Member
Waste of money. Guy's crap against big teams and is a one-trick pony, only ever trying to beat the offside trap in order ot place a shot directly at the keeper.
He's clever with his headers, though.
Frustrating how much time he gets for the national team. Not as frustrating as how forwards like Sercan Yildirim have been wasted over the last years. Turkey is a team of midfielders with no strikers with a killer instinct or ability. Sad state of affairs.
We dont even know if we would've been in the final without Gomez (but why on earth didnt he steal the ball from Robben, would've been the perfect time to step up).
btw. dont care what the video game side says, the Tomb Raider trailer looks dope!
Vivalaraza
Member
Shirt looks good Arnie.
Wanna see pics of you in Gotze shirt next! (Am I the only one who see's a resemblance there?).
Wanna see pics of you in Gotze shirt next! (Am I the only one who see's a resemblance there?).
I hope Juve dont sign Suarez. It will be very difficult to like a club who has that c... among their players.
cue Suarezpointing.jpg
When my mate returns from Rochdale I'll get on that. I'll even wear one of his yellow sweatbands.
Facism
Gold Member
bo-ooh-shack i think.
Vivalaraza
Member
LFC shirt delivery.
OUTRAGEOUS
OUTRAGEOUS
Was about to post the same. Signs he is going to Villa with his manager?
It really does feel amazing when it's on.
In the club last night there was a huge screen where you could tweet in and it would appear, so I sent in a B-Rod tweet. Then someone called Brendan Rodgers a dick so I tweeted about him too. Wasn't my finest hour.
BTW, this free t-shirt that came as a pre-order bonus is pretty class. Lovely fit. Nice and tight. Huge liverbird.
In the club last night there was a huge screen where you could tweet in and it would appear, so I sent in a B-Rod tweet. Then someone called Brendan Rodgers a dick so I tweeted about him too. Wasn't my finest hour.
BTW, this free t-shirt that came as a pre-order bonus is pretty class. Lovely fit. Nice and tight. Huge liverbird.
Shatner's Bassoon
Member
Grant Holt is a well educated man.
grant holt
‏@holty30
I have loved my 3 years at the club and it sadness me to right this but want use to here it from me first. ‪#lovedmytime‬
grant holt
‏@holty30
I have loved my 3 years at the club and it sadness me to right this but want use to here it from me first. ‪#lovedmytime‬
Maybe it's some sort of cryptic puzzle.
"it sadness me to right this" goes in an OT title. It HAS to.
Milchmonster
Member
Awesome news all round today:
This guy signed a new contract and will stay another year:
Götze is happy, too. Felipe <3
With Felipe staying, Lasse Sobiech will play for Fürth next season on loan. Very happy to see him get some time in the Bundesliga, he's planned as 3rd CB next season.
This guy signed a new contract and will stay another year:
Götze is happy, too. Felipe <3
With Felipe staying, Lasse Sobiech will play for Fürth next season on loan. Very happy to see him get some time in the Bundesliga, he's planned as 3rd CB next season.
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