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Football Thread 2011/2012 | OT11 | Roll on the Euros and transfer muppetry

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Fry

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Messi said:
Barca are totally keeping Afellay.Why sell him?
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Because he'll have no chance of displaying constant first team football at the age of 26, when hes supposed to be on his prime?

Coming back of a serious injury will have him over thinking his future at Barca too, I'm sure.

Clegg said:
RVP is terrible.

Injury prone overrated chancer.

He's had one good season in his entire career and people think he's brilliant.

Just like Sneijder.
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The real talent in that dutch team is Robben.
 
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Wilbur

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odd_morsel said:
Huntelaar doesn't hold up the ball very well. RVP is deadly in front of goal but I think van Marwijk wants him in especially because he can lay off the ball for Sneijder, Robben and Affelay to run onto as well as shoot himself.
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Makes sense I suppose, but RvP's playing shit today. I'd get van der Vaart to do RvP's job and get Huntelaar on as well.
 
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Awesome Animals

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Willkiller said:
Yeah! Who's who?

Nope :( I need to buy a new one, the charge cable for my wireless has died.
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Well, the second match is more or less even. But the first one is a bit lopsided. I'll be Denmark if I can pick who I can be in the second match. I don't know which team I'd rather be (probably Germany).
 
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GorillaJu

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Meh. I think Robben, RvP and Sneidjer are all immense talents but I don't really care to argue it.

My favorite Dutch player is retired now, anyway (Van Bronckhorst)
 
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Vivalaraza

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I think Affelay will get plenty of games at Barca. They have Messi, Villa, Pedro, Sanchez, Ibi, Tello and Cuenca for those 3 forwards positions. 7 players, they play 60 games a season, their squad is already stretched as it is. Tello and Cuenca are still very young and raw, Barca can't rely on them. The rest are in heathy competition.

I can only see Afellay leaving if he wants to leave in search of football every week and I don't think he will. He hasn't had a proper chance at Barca yet and has time ahead of him in his career. I don't see Barca wanting to ditch him either.
 
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Clegg

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Players like RVP and Sneijder are phenomenally talented but are terribly injury prone and inconsistent.

I don't think they can be called truly great because of that.
 
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Lightning

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Clegg said:
RVP is terrible.

Injury prone overrated chancer.

He's had one good season in his entire career and people think he's brilliant.

Just like Sneijder.
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Oh fuck off. So RVP has a bad game and all of a sudden he's not that good and overrated? He didnt just have a good season but almost single handedly kept Arsenal in the champions league and the reason we finished 3rd. That makes class, talent and skill. Not injury prone overrated...


I can recall Rooney's performances last world cup. Guess he's overrated as well...
 
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K1LLER7

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Denmark have so much time on the ball in the middle, nobody looks to press. Holland do this against germany and Portugal, and they could be out.
 
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Vivalaraza

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Sneijder has been great today IMO.

I think the discussion about RVP is valid. He's 28 and has had 15 months of his career as a top class players. He's been unfortunate with injuries for the rest but that's tough. Not saying he isn't a great player because right now he is, but over his career this hasn't been the norm.
 
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Wilbur

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Vivalaraza said:
Sneijder has been great today IMO.

I think the discussion about RVP is valid. He's 28 and has had 15 months of his career as a top class players. He's been unfortunate with injuries for the rest but that's tough. Not saying he isn't a great player because right now he is, but over his career this hasn't been the norm.
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Yeah Sneijder's been good in this match, but his only great season has been under Mourinho
 
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elseanio

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Lightning said:
Oh fuck off. So RVP has a bad game and all of a sudden he's not that good and overrated? He didnt just have a good season but almost single handedly kept Arsenal in the champions league and the reason we finished 3rd. That makes class, talent and skill. Not injury prone overrated...


I can recall Rooney's performances last world cup. Guess he's overrated as well...
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This game doesn't prove he's injury prone, his previous 10 seasons in club football do
 
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Vivalaraza

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Lightning said:
Oh fuck off. So RVP has a bad game and all of a sudden he's not that good and overrated? He didnt just have a good season but almost single handedly kept Arsenal in the champions league and the reason we finished 3rd. That makes class, talent and skill. Not injury prone overrated...


I can recall Rooney's performances last world cup. Guess he's overrated as well...
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Well, Rooney IS over-rated IMO. But he's had a much more consistent career than RVP and I don't even think Rooney is particularly consistent.
 
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Wilbur

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Lightning said:
Oh fuck off. So RVP has a bad game and all of a sudden he's not that good and overrated? He didnt just have a good season but almost single handedly kept Arsenal in the champions league and the reason we finished 3rd. That makes class, talent and skill. Not injury prone overrated...


I can recall Rooney's performances last world cup. Guess he's overrated as well...
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Rooney's had 3 or 4 great seasons at club level. He's definitely overrated but he and RvP joined United/Arsenal at around the same time. Only one of them's had more than one good season
 
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Hixx

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Wilbury said:
Yep. Intermittently shown it throughout his career but only had one good season
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Directly involved in 29 goals the season before last, 33 apps. 35 in 44 in 2008/2009, 14 in 23 the year before that. Hardly a one season wonder... apart from his first 2 seasons with Arsenal he has contributed massively.
 
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Clegg

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Sneijder has been a very good player over the course of his career. He was hyped up, with good reason, when he was with Ajax. He was decent with Madrid but he only really shone when Mourinho was his manager at Inter.

He's still an absolutely brilliant player but he's another player that has been plagued with injury and inconsistency. He hasn't had the consistency to be ranked amongst the greats of his generation.
 
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Lightning

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elseanio said:
This game doesn't prove he's injury prone, his previous 10 seasons in club football do
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I am not talking about his injury record I'm talking about his ability in front of goal. I know he is injury prone but people need to remember that RVP was not always an out and out striker like Wenger turned him into but infront of goal RVP is a beast and very skilled. This is undeniable.
 
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Salvadora

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HixxSAFC said:
Directly involved in 29 goals the season before last, 33 apps. 35 in 44 in 2008/2009, 14 in 23 the year before that. Hardly a one season wonder... apart from his first 2 seasons with Arsenal he has contributed massively.
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Exactly. Don't know what the fuck people are talking about in this thread.
 
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