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Football Thread 2011/2012 | OT11 | Roll on the Euros and transfer muppetry
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I don't know if you guys have discussed this but, The 2012/13 Premier League fixture schedule is set to be announced at 9am on Monday. Who do you want on the opening day?
To be honest with you, I might as well get a strong team like Manchester United since we lose the initial 10 games or so. we might as well get the big teams out of the way.
To be honest with you, I might as well get a strong team like Manchester United since we lose the initial 10 games or so. we might as well get the big teams out of the way.
FIVE goals! Who scored them?
“There is no misunderstanding over Jovetic, our intention is to hold on to him firmly and to build around him, then, if he wanted to be put on the market, we would make further assessments. The best thing is transparency, to always speak the truth.
At this time the player needs to now come out and express himself publicly."
“There is no misunderstanding over Jovetic, our intention is to hold on to him firmly and to build around him, then, if he wanted to be put on the market, we would make further assessments. The best thing is transparency, to always speak the truth.
At this time the player needs to now come out and express himself publicly."
Guess where he's going? WE ARE BUYING EVERYONEEEE!!!111
I don't know if it's true, but for the right amount of money ... he's going. There are rumors saying that the Viola are very interested in Matri and wouldn't be opposed to an exchange + cash for JoJo. It's not gonna happen though, seeing how we seem intent on bringing Giovinco home and keeping Matri.
Sounds like they want to keep him but would sell him if the right offer came in.
Interesting.
Has this graph been posted yet? An independent Liverpool fan podcast fielded a question for John W Henry (LFC principle owner) about the new stadium plans, and he gave a really interesting and enlightening response that reaches wider than just Liverpool.
As you can see, while that left column is perhaps the one that garners the most attention (number of seats), it is eclipsed in importance by the one on the right income per seat. That's where the gulf lies between us and the big London clubs + Man U. If we developed a new stadium and added 15k seats, we'd still lag behind the others because we make so much less per ticket on average. We need better corporate facilities and super-rich seats as well as a larger general expansion. The owners, however, are keen to expand the global marketing of the club as the way up.
I don't know much about English cities, but how different are Liverpool and Manchester, economically? Is Manchester that much wealthier of a community that they can sustain such an expensive club? My impression is that historically, the two cities have been the two major economic centers in the north west and about equal financially, but I could be way off.
Anyway I'm sure some will find this interesting so here's the full response from Mr Henry
As you can see, while that left column is perhaps the one that garners the most attention (number of seats), it is eclipsed in importance by the one on the right income per seat. That's where the gulf lies between us and the big London clubs + Man U. If we developed a new stadium and added 15k seats, we'd still lag behind the others because we make so much less per ticket on average. We need better corporate facilities and super-rich seats as well as a larger general expansion. The owners, however, are keen to expand the global marketing of the club as the way up.
I don't know much about English cities, but how different are Liverpool and Manchester, economically? Is Manchester that much wealthier of a community that they can sustain such an expensive club? My impression is that historically, the two cities have been the two major economic centers in the north west and about equal financially, but I could be way off.
Anyway I'm sure some will find this interesting so here's the full response from Mr Henry
Freewheelin'
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It really highlights just how other worldly City's finances are. Their match day income is meager doesn't even compare with us, yet because of absurd investment, they can buy silverware. It must be frustrating for people like the Glazers, or Arsenal's owners, to have financed and planned such an enormously successful economic structure, but not be able to beat City on the pitch because of their sugar-daddy owners. Chelsea's income makes sense given their location in a yuppie area of a very wealthy city, so you can feasibly see them, in much shorter terms than City, having income to support their massive outlay.
Our wage bill is also beyond retarded. It's about equal with Arsenal and not too far behind United, yet there we are languishing half way down the table. Buying the Sigurdssons of the world instead of the Joe Coles and Milan Jovanovic will be a good start
Our wage bill is also beyond retarded. It's about equal with Arsenal and not too far behind United, yet there we are languishing half way down the table. Buying the Sigurdssons of the world instead of the Joe Coles and Milan Jovanovic will be a good start
It's not Premier League, but I'd like Blackburn or Blackpool away on first day of the season. Blackburn because of the nice big away end and Blackpool because it would be nice to go there when it's likely to be nice weather, rather than the Tuesday night in December or January we usually get there.
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Very talented young Uruguayan, Gonzalo Mastriani:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnFE_p5O8Mg some sumptuous goals in there!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnFE_p5O8Mg some sumptuous goals in there!
Well, we are fucked then. Pink jersey for life.
Parma were linked with him, IIRC.
That letter from John Henry is great, and really does highlight how this whole furore about building a new stadium in order to compete is a bit of a myth; and in fact rushing the stadium issue could cause major headaches down the road.
How many people in the street would say immediately that they want a new stadium? Tons. How many would balk at the increased ticket prices, considering ticket prices at Anfield are already high? Tons.
The next time a cabbie starts telling me about how he wants the club to start building on Stanley Park, I'll ask him if he's willing to pay £55-£60 for a match day ticket every week.
I'm personally more inclined (even more so after that letter) to opt towards a piece by piece revamp of Anfield, with the Kop's improvement being a move towards safe standing, a model that's perfectly safe, proven in other countries, and improves the atmosphere by a huge factor. When talking about increasing match day revenue, you think of the allur of a stadium; I'm sure wealthy people would want to pay extra to see a fully standing, fully singing kop, as opposed to the (albeit still great) half and half jobbie we've got at the moment.
A stadium naming rights deal is also vital to bring the overhead costs down on the regeneration, so ticket prices don't soar. Sell the naming rights as a temporary thing (4 year contract) and you can think about removing the branding in the future when finances have settled.
How many people in the street would say immediately that they want a new stadium? Tons. How many would balk at the increased ticket prices, considering ticket prices at Anfield are already high? Tons.
The next time a cabbie starts telling me about how he wants the club to start building on Stanley Park, I'll ask him if he's willing to pay £55-£60 for a match day ticket every week.
I'm personally more inclined (even more so after that letter) to opt towards a piece by piece revamp of Anfield, with the Kop's improvement being a move towards safe standing, a model that's perfectly safe, proven in other countries, and improves the atmosphere by a huge factor. When talking about increasing match day revenue, you think of the allur of a stadium; I'm sure wealthy people would want to pay extra to see a fully standing, fully singing kop, as opposed to the (albeit still great) half and half jobbie we've got at the moment.
A stadium naming rights deal is also vital to bring the overhead costs down on the regeneration, so ticket prices don't soar. Sell the naming rights as a temporary thing (4 year contract) and you can think about removing the branding in the future when finances have settled.
Willkiller
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Girlfriend just rang me from Portugal, she's sitting on the beach in the sun while I'm freezing at home. Fucking shit English weather.
Ah well, hopefully Holland will beat Portugal and go through
Ah well, hopefully Holland will beat Portugal and go through
LOL! Want!
I'll get Chiellini and Verratti to sign it!
IIRC (observation not fact), we were getting away with more fouls/dives wearing pink
"Awww, last time Vidal!"
Man... another second place. Fuck.
It is said that even though Bayern had contact with M'Vila's agent, he is not the type of player Bayern is looking for. M'Vila is "too defensive" and too much like Luiz Gustavo.
http://www.tz-online.de/sport/fc-ba...-muenchen-aber-kein-wechsel-meta-2356119.html
Looks like Jupp is still looking for someone like Vidal. Martínez being the top candidate.
It is said that even though Bayern had contact with M'Vila's agent, he is not the type of player Bayern is looking for. M'Vila is "too defensive" and too much like Luiz Gustavo.
http://www.tz-online.de/sport/fc-ba...-muenchen-aber-kein-wechsel-meta-2356119.html
Looks like Jupp is still looking for someone like Vidal. Martínez being the top candidate.
This is fantastic.Galatasaray Away 2012/13
Freewheelin'
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The new abs might help:
What on earth do I need to do to get this?
Even Carroll is impressed :lol
too bad. with tymo definitely leaving next year he would have been perfect for the dm position
City ticket prices are quite low, still the best value in the league, no? I think I read that the match day revenue had already doubled or more since the Sheikh took over to put it in perspective. I'm sure the ultimate goal of the team is to definitely get is to get it near 1,000 in the next few years. It's going to be impossible to hit a much higher number in a city like Manchester when someone else is already doing 1.5x that target. That Man U can do numbers similar to a London club is a really amazing feat.
Willkiller
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Arsenals first game next season is at Home against Sunderland.
Go on the Gooners!
Go on the Gooners!
Yeah, but I actually prefer someone in the line of Vidal. A DM/CM.
we need both, to be honest.
Meh, not right now. I want something like this
Neuer
Lahm - Boateng - Badstuber - Alaba
Javi Martínez - Schweini
Shaqiri - Mueller - Ribéry
Gómez
Bench: Starke, Dante, Gustavo, Robben, Kroos, Pizarro, Tymo
or this when using Kroos:
Neuer
Lahm - Boateng - Badstuber - Alaba
Schweini - Javi Martínez - Kroos
Shaqiri - Gómez - Ribéry
That's Barcelona-esque kind of midfield.
edit: we really need another winger for the bench.
Gareth Bale
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I agree. this would be the ideal situation but not going to happen with heynckes as the manager.
we definitely need a plan b against teams which play counter attacking and 4-3-3 is probably the best formation, IMO
We used the 4-3-3 on both Real Madrid matches. Well, in the first leg we used it until Mueller came in... the problem is Gómez, without a "#10" (Mueller) behind him, he disconnects from the team.
We played something like this against RM:
With Schweini and Kroos moving around the whole pitch. Could you imagine how amazing would that lineup be with Vidal and not Gustavo? I mean, Gustavo is a superb DM but his passing and vision are very weak.
City's prices are low and we've sold 36,000 season tickets this year in record time.
Time for a expansion I think, just so we can have 20,000 empty seats per game just like rival fans say we have.
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Who's the dude with the love handles and bitch tits?
Mecha_Infantry
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Jesus at the Dutch team..beasting
Yeah, I think we could do much better with that kind of formation against Dortmund, it was a shame that Schweini was always injured or recovering from injury when we faced them.
We lack a true #10, so a 4-3-3 is a much better formation for us specially having two amazing players like Kroos and Schweini. It will be interesting to see how Jupp does in his second season, he knows the players and we're bringing more alternatives like Shaqiri, I expect next season to be more interesting. Remember that we were still playing Rafinha until the winter break!... this time we already have a strong XI.
Awesome Animals
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I like that Spurs shirt.
Have millions of dollars to hire a personal chef and trainer to keep you under control when not training with your professional football club.
The new abs might help:
What on earth do I need to do to get this?
Have millions of dollars to hire a personal chef and trainer to keep you under control when not training with your professional football club.
Broder Salsa
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Haha finally tennis is a bit interesting.
Awesome Animals
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Interesting lineup by the Dutch
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