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[Wilbur]

There was nothing going on up the flanks. Our wingers have no idea how to play on the wing it seems. Our full backs were constantly looking up and finding no one there.

Baines did a good job I think but you're right; Downing drifts in so much because I think he's afraid of getting up the pitch and putting in a shite cross.

Don't know why we keep the ball though. As Barca prove its a form of defence. Excruciatingly poor second half, having not seen the first I'm exactly where I was at the start of this game: just pure ambivalence as to my feelings towards the national team.

 

[WJD]

Hodgson advocating long ball football is beautiful.

My team for France would be:

Johnson - Cahill - Lescott - Cole
Parker - Lampard
Johnson - Young - Ox
Welbeck

I'd maybe have Milner over Johnson but otherwise, that team makes far too much sense to actually happen.

 

[FootballFan]

Hodgson advocating long ball football is beautiful.

My team for France would be:

Johnson - Cahill - Lescott - Cole
Parker - Barry
Johnson - Lampard - Young
Welbeck

I'd rather play that(only changed yours a bit, would prefer Rooney in Lamps spot though). Why isn't Carrick in the squad, I know they play different positions and all but I would have picked Carrick over Walcott, Henderson and Downing at least.

 

[danwarb]

For 30 minutes England were alright, and there are a few decent players to come in yet, all is not lost.


We still have The Hump.

 

[Mr. Sam]

Glad to see every bigger team was literally shit :lol

Literally? Literally. Alright.

 

[Vivalaraza]

Meh, past England sides have had players that made you hope for something better. Ashley Young was the best player in that line up, says it all.

Although I will give credit to Young for taking on the responsibility of his role today, was letting players know if they made mistakes etc which as a United fan is good to see.

 

[Wilbur]

I'd maybe have Milner over Johnson but otherwise, that team makes far too much sense to actually happen.

I think Milner's only good when everyone else around him plays well. That's unlikely to happen with England haha.

I'd rather play that(only changed yours a bit, would prefer Rooney in Lamps spot though). Why isn't Carrick in the squad, I know they play different positions and all but I would have picked Carrick over Walcott, Henderson and Downing at least.

He'd be my first choice in the midfield, but he's retired from international selection.

 

[Mecha_Infantry]

Is Caroll better than Hesky?

I'd have him in the team too

 

[Wilbur]

Is Caroll better than Hesky?

I'd have him in the team too

Every deceased pope is better than Heskey.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Is Caroll better than Hesky?

I'd have him in the team too

Is he better than Crouch?

 

[Gareth Bale]

Hodgson isn't going to pick a team where the captain doesn't start.

 

[Ushojax]

Is he better than Crouch?

He isn't even better than Grant Holt. The commentators were saying Carroll had a good game but did he even have a shot on target? He missed a sitter early on, played one stupid ball across the face and that was it. He did more defending than anything else.

Hodgson isn't going to pick a team where the captain doesn't start.

That's why giving it to Gerrard was a mistake. He's been shit for a year and a half and he barely lasts 45 minutes for England any more.

 

[K1LLER7]

I'd rather play that(only changed yours a bit, would prefer Rooney in Lamps spot though). Why isn't Carrick in the squad, I know they play different positions and all but I would have picked Carrick over Walcott, Henderson and Downing at least.

Carrick never usually gets picked, he was considered for the reserve squad and said he didn't want to go if he wasn't in the travelling squad. Not too much to ask when Henderson, and downing are included. They could've done with someone like him over the past couple of years.

 

[rodvik]

Ruthlessly efficient England go ahead then kill the game off.

Hodgsons football machine is going to brush aside all comers.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

He isn't even better than Grant Holt. The commentators were saying Carroll had a good game but did he even have a shot on target? He missed a sitter early on, played one stupid ball across the face and that was it. He did more defending than anything else.



That's why giving it to Gerrard was a mistake. He's been shit for a year and a half and he barely lasts 45 minutes for England any more.

Hereto known as the Carroll fallacy: Does fuck all by any conceivable metric - everyone says he's great.

 

[elsk]

So Walcott played as striker or winger?

 

[Slizz]

Hereto known as the Carroll fallacy: Does fuck all by any conceivable metric - everyone says he's great.

He scored a buncha goals against Arsenal one time I think.

 

[Mecha_Infantry]

Every deceased pope is better than Heskey.

Is he better than Crouch?

I was playing

 

[Nevasleep]

We still have The Hump.

So we might win the Euro

Spoiler

vision

 

[Yurt]

So England replaced Capello with the English Ranieri?

 

[Yen]

So England replaced Capello with the English Ranieri?

That's a bit harsh on Ranieri.

 

[LegoArmo]

I'm watching Serie A: Goals of the Season, and pretty much all of them have been Ibrahimovic.

 

[Timbuktu]

It is weird that there seem to be more Liverpool players in this England squad than there's been for a long while, but they've had their worst season for while as well, correlation?

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

That's a bit harsh on Ranieri.

Beat me to it.

 

[Plasma]

He scored a buncha goals against Arsenal one time I think.

If by a bunch you mean one then yeah.

 

[Yurt]

I'm watching Serie A: Goals of the Season, and pretty much all of them have been Ibrahimovic.

Are you watching Penalties of the Season?

Giovinco, Marchisio, Palacio and Di Natale scored many decent goals.

 

[Slizz]

If by a bunch you mean one then yeah.

The 35 mil one?

 

[rodvik]

Hereto known as the Carroll fallacy: Does fuck all by any conceivable metric - everyone says he's great.

I think it's just open pity by now.

That said playing Young up front with him was smart.

 

[danwarb]

It is weird that there seem to be more Liverpool players in this England squad than there's been for a long while, but they've had had such a nightmare of a season.

Probably for the same reason Roy brought Poulsen and Konchesky to Liverpool. That doesn't explain Downing and Carroll though.

 

[The Incarnation]

Lets hope hazard plays well and then announces his move to United

Once he sees first hand the shite he has to play with and against I wouldn't rule out him saying fuck it, I'm off to Spain.

 

[LegoArmo]

Are you watching Penalties of the Season?

Gio, Marchisio, Palacio and Di Natale scored many decent goals.

It's on ESPN, about half an hour long, so they're showing a lot of goals, but Ibra has been on like 8 times already.

 

[Lightning]

I feel really sorry for Hodgson here. He is on a highway to nothing as no side he picks is going to satisfy everyone, he has a severe lack of options, especially in midfield and upfront, with lots of players who think they are better than they really are. The only thing awaiting whoever is the England manager is criticism and ridicule as the national side are just not good enough. It's not the manager, it's the players are shit. Simple as that.

 

[dc89]

A win is a win I guess.

 

[Clegg]

I feel really sorry for Hodgson here. He is on a highway to nothing as no side he picks is going to satisfy everyone, he has a severe lack of options, especially in midfield and upfront, with lots of players who think they are better than they really are. The only thing awaiting whoever is the England manager is criticism and ridicule as the national side are just not good enough. It's not the manager, it's the players are shit. Simple as that.

Hodgson doesn't help himself by picking shite like Carroll and Milner.

 

[Dark Machine]

I feel really sorry for Hodgson here. He is on a highway to nothing as no side he picks is going to satisfy everyone, he has a severe lack of options, especially in midfield and upfront, with lots of players who think they are better than they really are. The only thing awaiting whoever is the England manager is criticism and ridicule as the national side are just not good enough. It's not the manager, it's the players are shit. Simple as that.

I ranted about this on the last page. Think most missed it so here it is again!

I turned the radio off. Even listening to it is boring me to tears. Would probably look better on one of the shitty stop-start streams I usually get here.

Same old England, people still wonder why even though the national football system hasn't changed for 3 to 4 decades in this country. The FA have no fucking idea except for how to preserve their outdated dinosaur selves for another 10 years. Why do Germany, Holland, Spain, France etc all win at tournaments and (mostly) look good in friendlies? Because they see something's wrong and change it. England go "yeah something's wrong, but if we change it football won't ever be the same! And that'd be bad!" or "We could change this, but really we're the problem. So we won't." -The FA.

In other words. You're completely right.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Hodgson doesn't help himself by picking shite like Carroll and Milner.

Exactly, there was no balance between attacking talent and hard graft. He picked players more on the basis of whether they worked hard in defence as opposed to whether they were any good going forwards.

 

[danwarb]

I think England can do well in spite of everything. Hodgson's football works best against superior opposition. England will set up to frustrate and counter.

 

[Yurt]

It's on ESPN, about half an hour long, so they're showing a lot of goals, but Ibra has been on like 8 times already.

He scored 28(-10) goals so it's only natural I guess.

I'll nominate:

(I don't think it counts )

 

[The Incarnation]

I think England can do well in spite of everything. Hodgson's football works best against superior opposition. England will set up to frustrate and counter.

Which is why they won't even get out of the group stages.

 

[LegoArmo]

He scored 28(-10) goals so it's only natural I guess.

I'll nominate:

All great goals, looks like the Italian league was definitely worth watching this year.

 

[K1LLER7]

Once he sees first hand the shite he has to play with and against I wouldn't rule out him saying fuck it, I'm off to Spain.

Haha and from then he'll be like I'm going to a club in Madrid, i like the colour white but like red as well, and it all starts again.

 

[Clegg]

Exactly, there was no balance between attacking talent and hard graft. He picked players more on the basis of whether they worked hard in defence as opposed to whether they were any good going forwards.

His one good decision was deciding to play Ashley Young behind the striker.

He also learned that his midfield is shithouse.

Carrick must be laughing his tits off.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

His one good decision was deciding to play Ashley Young behind the striker.

He also learned that his midfield is shithouse.

The balance between Parker and Gerrard looked good enough to begin with but it was short lived. Also, our wingers did our centre mids no favours. They were so often out of position and rarely provided an outlet when our centre mids were pressed. Just poor all round.

We badly need Wilshire back too.

 

[Clegg]

The balance between Parker and Gerrard looked good enough to begin with but it was short lived. Also, our wingers did our centre mids no favours. They were so often out of position and rarely provided an outlet when our centre mids were pressed. Just poor all round.

We badly need Wilshire back too.

Gerrard was exhausted by half time though.

I'm not sure how England can expect to perform well when their captain can't last an entire 90 minutes without his game falling to pieces.

 

[K1LLER7]

There was no movement or very little, so the only thing they tried was to hoof the ball out up field. Against a better opposition they'd have made the possession count.

 

[Clegg]

Keith Fahey has been ruled out of Euro 2012 due to injury.

Paul Green has been called up to replace him in the Irish squad.

Paul. Fucking. Green.

We are going to be manshamed.

Prison style.

 

[Lightning]

http://www.london24.com/sport/arsenal/arsenal_star_i_will_be_even_better_next_season_1_1390102

Good on ya Aaron. Fuck the haters, you had a good year and will be much better for the experience. Stick to his guns, work on perfecting his game especially his shooting, and this guy will have a very bright future ahead of him. Considering this was his first full season in the premier league and he had the burden of replacing Cesc he done well.

 

[rar]

Merte is horrid and should be sent home and Jantschke or some other proper wingback should come into the team.

mertesacker hasn't played since february, no way is he fit

 

[Blablurn]

lol germany

 

[Phantast2k]

mertesacker hasn't played since february, no way is he fit

I know, so wtf is he doing in the national team? But he's bad regardless of his form. If it wasn't for Friedrich we would've never made it into the semis in the 2010' WC.

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