sazabirules
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Football Thread 2011/2012 | OT11 | Roll on the Euros and transfer muppetry
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... in a friendly match.
I figured it was pointless to point it out
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sazabirules
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Landy hat trick!
EdibleExplosives
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This is just horrible.
Vivalaraza
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This is amazing. Puyol is just amazing. What a captain.I thought it was great to see Puyol tying and waving the Catalan and Basque flags together after the Copa final. But this makes it even better. Such a nice story <3 Puyol.
That would have been Donovan's 50 career int'l goal if he had not hit the post earlier...
How many assists does he have with the national team? I'm pretty sure it's over 45. He could be at 50+ goals 50+ assists by the end of this five game stretch...
Edit: and there's another assist from Donovan
How many assists does he have with the national team? I'm pretty sure it's over 45. He could be at 50+ goals 50+ assists by the end of this five game stretch...
Edit: and there's another assist from Donovan
sazabirules
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Jermaine Jones!!!
Vivalaraza
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sazabirules
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The worst Scotland defeat of all time was a 7-0 defeat to Uruguay in 1954. Chance at making history lost!
Well, there's still 15 minutes left.
Nike thought that grey on white was a good combination.
I wonder if Timmy Chandler is watching this...
Also: both catalans and basque people want to be independent from Spain. A lot of their people actually hate Spain.
Vivalaraza
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This is no longer the case though. Particularly for the Basque population. Did a module this semester about this and ETA. The anti-"Spanish" sentiment is very tempered these days. Most people are happy to identify themselves as Spanish.
I've always wondered how the Barcelona players feel in representing Spain. They seem very happy and proud to do so...think it reflects their feelings about being happily Spanish in this day and age.
Mercedes
Team Inglourious Basterds
This is from the F1 thread but it's too good an image to keep in 1 place.
Davos Seaworth and Magneto.
*Swoon*
^Who is the assistant coach in USA NT? (because he's the actual coach)
Well, they're professionals. But I'm pretty sure they feel catalans more than anything else... I doubt the issue has gone away that easily, their former president (of Barcelona FC) is part of a politician movement actually so yeah, it's a big topic for them.
Well, they're professionals. But I'm pretty sure they feel catalans more than anything else... I doubt the issue has gone away that easily, their former president (of Barcelona FC) is part of a politician movement actually so yeah, it's a big topic for them.
Beautiful
See you on Wednesday, Brazil!
I remember Xavi saying this in a pre-match conference when he played us:
"..Barcelona are more than a football club. Our clubs are a symbol of a culture and community that has not always been made welcome in their respective countries."
Gareth Bale
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I hope Roy has more of a plan for the England side than what he showed earlier. Norway were the better side for the second half and I don't think he understood why.
More importantly though the Max Payne 3 fund was filled tonight thanks to Ashley Young and also Carl Froch.
Very happy indeed
More importantly though the Max Payne 3 fund was filled tonight thanks to Ashley Young and also Carl Froch.
Very happy indeed
Awesome Animals
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What is goIng in here?I raise you.
Hate the new kit but glad to hear the USMNT played well. Love Bradley and Torres. Wish Bannan played better though
I'll have some of what Captain Morgan is having: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0FaL-VWhzg
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Fuck you Liborio. Just fuck you.
It's a bit more complicated than that as there is disagreement within the nationalist groups of both the Basque region and Catalonia between full independence from Spain and seeking greater autonomy within a unified Spain. The majority of people in these regions general survey to prefer to exist within a unified Spain (either as an autonomous region or through a confederation). Additionally, the identified Basque and Catalan culture/people extend into France as well, not just Spain (and even disputed into other Spanish autonomies as well). The only real reason why it is more of an issue in Spain than in France is because of the history with Franco.
It is true though, that many (not all, and not the majority either) identify themselves only as Basque or Catalan. A much greater percentage will identify themselves as Basque or Catalan first and Spanish second, but still identify with both nationalities.
Something that complicates the separatist movement further, especially in Catalonia, is the growth of immigrant and non-Catalan residents who make up a small, but significant percentage of voters from the region.
The major reason why separatism is starting to gain some popularity again is due to the political and economic situation of Spain which is of course represented by the corrupt and inept parliament in Madrid (but in reality is an issue everywhere in Spain).
About Catalan players' sentiments towards playing for Spain, the only issue I can remember is Oleguer who said he would refuse any call to play for Spain (of course he wasn't a good enough player, so he was never called up anyways).
However, all Catalan and Basque players are allowed to carry and wear the Catalan and Basque flags when playing for Spain (and they rarely, if ever, carry the flag of Spain when celebrating). Even Sergio Ramos wears the Andalucian flag.
Catalonia and the Basque region are ambiguously defined as "nations" within Spain, so the sentiments (as it would appear) of these players is that they are representing and playing as Catalan and Basque people within a unified Spanish team, rather than playing as "Spaniards".
The_Hitcher89
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All of that sounds good, but I'd rather have Xavi Valero as goalkeeping coach
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