Shake Appeal
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Football Thread 2012/13 |OT5| One word to rule them all
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We were such a lazy team in the second half. Kagawa could of worked a bit better, he doesn't seem to know his role, CM CAM etc. Along with Carrick, who seems static with the ball.
Second half, we improved immensely. Bringing Kagawa off though with his performance at the start of the second was a bad move I think. He was linking well with Rooney. You're right that we gifted two of there goals, Ferdinand could of attempted to block Bale's shot.
Overall, we didn't look like at team until the start and later stages of the second half.
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BTW someone said that United fans and the media have always praised SAF and his tactics. But that just isn't true at all.
He's an excellent man manager and motivator but he's not brilliant with his tactics. We've been calling for a three man midfield for a while now as we're getting overrun in midfield. But we're still stuck with a two man midfield and wingers. He must be questioned over his continual selection of Giggs for the big games and his continued refusal to sign a central midfielder.
If he wants to stick with a two man midfield then he needs to buy a new CM as the player we have just don't suit that system.
He's an excellent man manager and motivator but he's not brilliant with his tactics. We've been calling for a three man midfield for a while now as we're getting overrun in midfield. But we're still stuck with a two man midfield and wingers. He must be questioned over his continual selection of Giggs for the big games and his continued refusal to sign a central midfielder.
If he wants to stick with a two man midfield then he needs to buy a new CM as the player we have just don't suit that system.
Spurs deservedly beat United. That's what happened.
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Nope, sorry. Suhni doesn't care about Juve (anymore).
First half should've ended 4 - 0, two fucking crossbars. We need to score another asap in the second half and then put the game to sleep.
Zeman is the best manager on the planet. BARCEROMAAAAAA!!!
Baconsaurus Rex
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pulga
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Oh, loooooooool
I fully expect SAF is thinking we need another striker.
That would sort out all our problems.
And I know Nani scored but he still didn't do enough for me.
Giggs shouldn't have started and neither should Nani.
If Rooney wasn't ready for the full 90 minutes SAF should have went with a Carrick/Scholes/Clev midfield.
That would sort out all our problems.
And I know Nani scored but he still didn't do enough for me.
Giggs shouldn't have started and neither should Nani.
If Rooney wasn't ready for the full 90 minutes SAF should have went with a Carrick/Scholes/Clev midfield.
Scoreboard Turk, scoreboard
A few frustrations from the Arsenal game.
Firstly, fuck you Mannone. This guy is no Szczesny, not even close. Distribution is shocking, decision making is woeful, useless on crosses and for me Szczesny can't return fast enough. Koscielny had an absolute shocker, worst game I've seen him play in over a year. What the hell happened?
Giroud's link up play is fantastic and showed today why he should be starting. The only problem is he needs to hit the fucking target with his shots, force the keeper to save. If the keeper saves it so be it but missing the target completely is just criminal. Theo is wank, has a decent finish on him but doesn't know how to get into position and doesn't show a footballing brain. Our entire attack was shocking today, made worse by Wenger still trialling Ramsey on the wing where he doesn't play well and is inconsistent as hell.
The only players who I thought played well were Jenkinson, Gibbs and Arteta. Everyone else were either below their usual standard (Vermaelen, Cazorla, Podolski etc...) while others were terrible (Gervinho, Kos, Mannone, Ramsey etc...)
What a disapointing and unacceptable defeat that was.
Firstly, fuck you Mannone. This guy is no Szczesny, not even close. Distribution is shocking, decision making is woeful, useless on crosses and for me Szczesny can't return fast enough. Koscielny had an absolute shocker, worst game I've seen him play in over a year. What the hell happened?
Giroud's link up play is fantastic and showed today why he should be starting. The only problem is he needs to hit the fucking target with his shots, force the keeper to save. If the keeper saves it so be it but missing the target completely is just criminal. Theo is wank, has a decent finish on him but doesn't know how to get into position and doesn't show a footballing brain. Our entire attack was shocking today, made worse by Wenger still trialling Ramsey on the wing where he doesn't play well and is inconsistent as hell.
The only players who I thought played well were Jenkinson, Gibbs and Arteta. Everyone else were either below their usual standard (Vermaelen, Cazorla, Podolski etc...) while others were terrible (Gervinho, Kos, Mannone, Ramsey etc...)
What a disapointing and unacceptable defeat that was.
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Baconsaurus Rex
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Of course. Not enough goals scored today, so no win. More strikers means more goals.
Impeccable logic
Willkiller
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"Ferguson says that he believes the responsibility for time-keeping should be taken away from referees."
United have always been about attack. Why not buy both, though.
Do you expect him to criticise his players in public?
And wasn't Mancini unhappy about Joe Hart publicly criticising Citys performance against Madrid?
It's management 101 ffs.
Bonucci and Vucinic almost came to blows, lol. As I understood it Bonucci was raging against a Roma player who was protesting a non-assigned handball (there wasn't one), Vucinic went to Bonucci and tried to calm him down, altercation (almost) ensued. DEVI STARE CALMO BONNY, TESTA DI CAZZO.
Come on Vecchia Signora!
Come on Vecchia Signora!
pulga
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Just saw the replay on tv, what the fuck is wrong with them :lol
EditL MIRKOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! so close
As a Spurs fan, I'd say we got lucky. Despite our excellent first half performance, we got absolutely trashed in the second half and I really don't get why it came to that. The main reason we won was due to United losing momentum during their merk period, we did do some decent defending as well though.
I wish we won convincingly, I would have loved to piss off the AVB haters.
I wish we won convincingly, I would have loved to piss off the AVB haters.
Oh Fergie you're too much sometimes!!!!!!!!
Spurs were lucky to hold on. Very negative in the 2nd half. But credit where credit is due..a good 3 points.
But this game is emblamatic of the current state of UTD. They are a team with some very strong pieces (strikers)...But currently you have the feeling a lot of well organized teams can get at them.
The injuries are of course a factor. But somethng deeper is broken. The engine is getting old (Scholes) and other teams have moved beyond them, technically.
They are looking like a third place team.
But this game is emblamatic of the current state of UTD. They are a team with some very strong pieces (strikers)...But currently you have the feeling a lot of well organized teams can get at them.
The injuries are of course a factor. But somethng deeper is broken. The engine is getting old (Scholes) and other teams have moved beyond them, technically.
They are looking like a third place team.
Why?
Of course we have. Both would have sufficed though.
I don't think it's just the tactics. He is a great tactical manager too. His creation of 2007 4-3-3 was ahead of its time in some ways (no pure strikers with Rooney, Tevez and Ronaldo all switching places throughout the match).
I think he's just too stubborn to find the next Scholes, and doesn't want to buy "lesser" CMs even if they would help the midfield too. In some ways I understand because it's not the United way to buy "lesser" players but I don't think there is a choice atm.
He definitely wasn't a panic buy imo. United were after Sneijder in the summer of 2011.He also plays in a similar position to Kagawa. So we know that United were looking for an attacking midfielder for at least a year. Kagawa would have been extensively scouted and SAF even went to a Dortmund match to watch him in person. He's played well enough for me to be happy with his purchase.
However, you can most certainly ask about Fergusons priorities. We've added some world class attacking talent but nothing in midfield to keeps possession and create chances for them.
Of course he shouldn't criticise his own players. But that about letting the ref's keep track if time thing, what a load of testicle.
Meus Renaissance
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Guys, my vision is increasingly worsening. I'm afraid that I'll...have to wear glasses. I'll become one of them
Not over till Chelski match. That's going to be some intense game.
He's worth it either way, after his last season form. He also has amazing tekkers, lets just say I'm happy he's in our team.
I think RVP was a good buy too.
But SAF may not have got his priorities in order regarding our squad.
Vivalaraza
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Thats gonna be the headline tmrw. Not that we were shit for 45 minutes.
Protecting his players and whatever but sometimes I wonder if Fergie would be better off hanging them out to dry a little.
Rushed may of been the wrong word. SAF did watch him play for Dortmund. But I feel, like you said SAF should of had higher priorities with buying a Defensive midfielder rather than an attacking midfielder. Of course I am happy with the buy and he is a great player. It's the actual tactical buy that i'm a bit annoyed with.
Meus Renaissance
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Maybe he would. Especially the ones who seldom perform these days.
Vivalaraza
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Fergie ruled out buying a DM at the start of the summer. Was never part of his plans.
I don't get the AVB hate. He's got a great team, who are playing very well. All he needs IMO is a player to replace Modric and maybe a CB. If he got Moutinho then maybe he would have had a player to keep the passing ticking and a player with that bit of extra quality.
I think they could make the Top 4 this year, depending on how Arsenal go and if Spurs beat the teams lower in the table. Don't see United, City or Chelsea dropping out.
I think they could make the Top 4 this year, depending on how Arsenal go and if Spurs beat the teams lower in the table. Don't see United, City or Chelsea dropping out.
If Anderson and Cleverley could be trusted not to get injured and shit then we wouldn't be in such desperate need for a CM.
Of course this would only work if we moved to three in the middle. If we picked three players out of Fletcher/Carrick/Clev/Ando then we'd have a decent midfield.
But three of these players have been sick/injured for the last year so a new midfielder would probably be necessary even if it was just to bolster the squad.
Of course this would only work if we moved to three in the middle. If we picked three players out of Fletcher/Carrick/Clev/Ando then we'd have a decent midfield.
But three of these players have been sick/injured for the last year so a new midfielder would probably be necessary even if it was just to bolster the squad.
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