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[juanpablo]

Wasn't that a Swansea fan murdered by a Cardiff fan?

So it was only Welsh fans fighting amongst themselves outside Wembley then? Doesn't sound plausible to me but fair enough.

It still doesn't change my perception that there's a nasty element to England's support, y'know, the type who like to sing ''No Surrender" and the like, a chant which no doubt we'll be hearing plenty of when Ireland are at Wembley. Hopefully that game passes off peacefully, but if there are any 'incidents', then it can be pretty safe to assume it won't be Ireland supporters who've instigated it.

 

[operon]

We might struggle to fill Landsdowne Road some times, but I thought more Irish fans traveled to the Euros this year than English fans

 

[The_Hitcher89]

So it was only Welsh fans fighting amongst themselves outside Wembley then? Doesn't sound plausible to me but fair enough.

It still doesn't change my perception that there's a nasty element to England's support, y'know, the type who like to sing ''No Surrender" and the like, a chant which no doubt we'll be hearing plenty of when Ireland are at Wembley. Hopefully that game passes off peacefully, but if there are any 'incidents', then it can be pretty safe to assume it won't be Ireland supporters who've instigated it.

Well it was only the Wales fans murdering one another, so there's a fucking huge distinction to be drawn there when you go throwing incidents like that in our direction. England fans aren't perfect, and there's still a percentage of them who go looking for a scrap. You seem to be under the impression that its still a trait endemic to us though, when the fact of the matter is that its well under way to being stamped out.

And I wouldn't assume shit when it comes to hooliganism, especially when you try to consider the instigators of a fight bought about by retalition for verbal abuse, which is most probably how it would happen.

From a cursory google search, I can't find a single England arrest at Euro 2012, which is hopefully another step to the eradication of the England hooligan

edit: It was a Cardiff fan killed by Swansea fans. And in that incident at least, only Wales fans were involved by all accounts

 

[juanpablo]

We might struggle to fill Landsdowne Road some times, but I thought more Irish fans traveled to the Euros this year than English fans

Tbf Poland is a lot easier to get to then Ukraine, plus there was a a lot of fierce negative media about the general suitability of Ukraine as a host wrt accomodation, local hooligans, corrupt police and media etc.

Re: Lansdowne ticketing, I think the FAI have reorganised their ticket pricing to take account of the new harsher economic reality we're in. Still a bollocks though that if you miss out on the cheap seats, you gotta pay €100 for 'premium' level.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

As an aside, was there ever a hige risk in holding the tournament in Poland/Ukraine, or was it media fear-mongering? Things went a lot smoother than I was expecting

 

[juanpablo]

Well it was only the Wales fans murdering one another, so there's a fucking huge distinction to be drawn there when you go throwing incidents like that in our direction. England fans aren't perfect, and there's still a percentage of them who go looking for a scrap. You seem to be under the impression that its still a trait endemic to us though, when the fact of the matter is that its well under way to being stamped out.

And I wouldn't assume shit when it comes to hooliganism, especially when you try to consider the instigators of a fight bought about by retalition for verbal abuse, which is most probably how it would happen.

From a cursory google search, I can't find a single England arrest at Euro 2012, which is hopefully another step to the eradication of the England hooligan

edit: It was a Cardiff fan killed by Swansea fans. And in that incident at least, only Wales fans were involved by all accounts

The bolded part give's it away for you The_Hitcher89. I have no doubt that element you describe will be out in force for the England - Ireland game next year, there's just something about our great little country that seems to rile the undesirable element of your support. I have no doubt our Anthem will be booed, "No Surrender" will be sung and there'll be plenty of your guys spoiling for a scrap outside the ground.

In addition, and this is purely a personal account, I've never seen any Ireland supporter go ''looking for a scrap" in my time going to games. that kind of thing is anathema to Ireland supporters.

 

[Jeff Albertson]

You may as well just admit if now everyone

I have the manliest avatar on Gaf

 

[Freewheelin']

You may as well just admit if now everyone

I have the manliest avatar on Gaf

Ron Swanson is so good

 

[Salvadora]

Finally.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

The bolded part give's it away for you The_Hitcher89. I have no doubt that element you describe will be out in force for the England - Ireland game next year, there's just something about our great little country that seems to rile the undesirable element of your support. I have no doubt our Anthem will be booed, "No Surrender" will be sung and there'll be plenty of your guys spoiling for a scrap outside the ground.

In addition, and this is purely a personal account, I've never seen any Ireland supporter go ''looking for a scrap" in my time going to games. that kind of thing is anathema to Ireland supporters.

Of course your anthem will be booed

Spoiler

I really do wish we'd stop doing that

I've said that we still have an unfortunate percentage of hooligans, but I don't think its any longer widespread enough to be considered endemic. We'll see at the Ireland game. Hopefully the police will be on their game, as they have been in recent years at England matches.

I don't even know how I got drawn into this, I never said we had particularly good fans

edit: Welcome back Salv, quiet afternoon so far for some reason

 

[JesusTom]

Ruud Gullit possibly open to the Blackburn job. What do we think?

 

[Kyoufu]

Ruud Gullit possibly open to the Blackburn job. What do we think?

Could work out for Blackburn. I don't rate him as a manager personally but I guess you could do worse.

 

[Moobabe]

Holy shit Dishonored if phenomenal already.

 

[Kyoufu]

Holy shit Dishonored if phenomenal already.

Is it? Looks boring to me. What are you finding compelling about it?

 

[The_Hitcher89]

Ruud Gullit possibly open to the Blackburn job. What do we think?

As good as they can get I think. £9m per year contract incoming

edit: stfu, Kyoufu

edit2: shit, drew Man Utd in the D1 Cup semi-final

 

[juanpablo]

Of course your anthem will be booed

Spoiler

I really do wish we'd stop doing that

I've said that we still have an unfortunate percentage of hooligans, but I don't think its any longer widespread enough to be considered endemic. We'll see at the Ireland game. Hopefully the police will be on their game, as they have been in recent years at England matches.

I don't even know how I got drawn into this, I never said we had particularly good fans

edit: Welcome back Salv, quiet afternoon so far for some reason

I actually don't particularly mind the anthem booing (though obviously it doesn't happen at Ireland games), in fact I'm quite looking forward to drowning out GSTQ with YNBTI at Wembley. That'll really set off the delinquent element of your support!

 

[Moobabe]

Is it? Looks boring to me. What are you finding compelling about it?

The world building is its strongest aspect so far - I don't mean just the level design but the realisation of the entire world.

This is a semi item spoiler - so if you want to go in fresh DO NO READ

Spoiler

There's an item which affords you information about locations and people - it's an altered heart that is extremely poetic and troubling. As soon as I'd used it once I knew I'd love the game.

It might not be everyone's cup of tea - but it touches on things like Thief, Deus Ex, Bioshock and the like. Really stunning stuff so far.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

I actually don't particularly mind the anthem booing (though obviously it doesn't happen at Ireland games), in fact I'm quite looking forward to drowning out GSTQ with YNBTI at Wembley. That'll really set off the delinquent element of your support!

I think the fans might be used to it by now. The other fans have started booing our anthem in retaliation. Silly lack of respect, at least the English anthem is worth booing

 

[Baconsaurus Rex]

Came from Soccer Triads this morning

Very happy!

Are you my brother?

I ordered the exact same thing last Saturday

When did you order it?

 

[JesusTom]

I think the fans might be used to it by now. The other fans have started booing our anthem in retaliation. Silly lack of respect, at least the English anthem is worth booing

English national anthem needs changing from God Save The Queen to We Are The Champions.

 

[Moobabe]

English national anthem needs changing from God Save The Queen to We Are The Champions.

Jerusalem or Rule, Britannia.

 

[Salvadora]

I know what I'll be singing during the break.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShvJT5_ogCI

 

[JesusTom]

Jerusalem or Rule, Britannia.

Original or ELP version?

 

[fuenf]

i was bored:

 

[TheLucifer]

In one day, I read about Milan looking forward to sign: Guardiola (who will ask for 80m euros to buy a bunch of players of his choice), Strootman, Anderson (from Santos, Robinho would be used to lower his price) and Ashley Cole. International breaks are boring for journalists too, apparently.

I would like to return to Milan. They know where to find me.

You can come back, you magnificent mercenary. We'll sell somebody else, I don't care. We'll sell Berlusconi, or San Siro, or the Duomo, something will show up.

 

[Salvadora]

Inter want Sagna, according to rumours. We've got the corporal so I'm not worried.

 

[Blablurn]

i was bored:

lol...

can u actually make this as an avatar for me?

 

[Kyoufu]

Welcome back Salva.

 

[Salvadora]

Welcome back Salva.

It's good to be back. Glad I missed the Chelsea loss though, that was a dark day.

 

[Kyoufu]

It's good to be back. Glad I missed the Chelsea loss though, that was a dark day.

The Man United loss was a dark day for me. That weekend would have been VERY dark if it weren't for Borderlands 2.

 

[Salvadora]

The Man United loss was a dark day for me. That weekend would have been VERY dark if it weren't for Borderlands 2.

Only caught the highlights of that one, it's a shame you let Evra score.

 

[juanpablo]

What happens when England play Norn Iron? do they just play GSTQ just the once or does it get played twice?

 

[Kyoufu]

Only caught the highlights of that one, it's a shame you let Evra score.

Nope. This means he'll keep his spot in the team. Joke's on them LOL.

 

[Salvadora]

I still remember the historic victory over England a couple of years ago.

 

[Slizz]

I still remember the historic victory over England a couple of years ago.

Me too.

 

[Jensen]

Only caught the highlights of that one, it's a shame you let Evra score.

Not only did he score, he also wasn't a liability for 90 minutes.

 

[Anderson]

Gotta love that US exchange rate

 

[Salvadora]

Why I believe Arsene will get Götze one day #afc
You see that smile that comes across Wenger's face when he mentions Cazorla? Well if you don't, this is the same 'Wenger smile' that came across his face when watching a young Jack Wilshere score a wonder goal for the Reserves (Skip toWatch at Youtube › ).. You see that? that's the smile you get when Wenger talks about Mario Götze.

Arsenal have money. With the new deals coming in and FFP being introduced, things are moving even more in favour of the club. We know Arsene doesn't have a history for spending big, but I just get the feeling he'll go big for Götze. £30m+ big for him. Some

In chats last season, it was clear the Arsenal manager was after a no.10. A man who would pull strings and orchestrate behind the striker. His next Fabregas. Despite us getting Cazorla in the end, who is world class, the name that kept popping up was Götze. I;m assured the boss is a "huge admirer" of him, as well as German players in general. Mertesacker, Podolski, Eisfeld and Gnabry, all recent additions to his Arsenal side. The fluent in German Arsenal manager also has a great relationship with Klopp, the Dortmund boss. The clubs match in their philosophies and approach football the right way, on and off the pitch. There's a connection there that shouldn't be overlooked.

What about the player himself? well, i'm reliably informed that Götze was "extremely impressed" with the Emirates facilities when he played there last season, and that the boss had a "personal conversation with him in German" after the game. Also I'm told that there has been contact, whether official or unofficial, between the clubs about the player in the past. I don't know when, whether it's soon or in a while, but I just know there's something in this.

I genuinely believe Arsene Wenger will get Götze. One day

http://sulia.com/source/S-46013441/f/c704bbf2-0ba2-4bc2-ae86-a355524a3449/
Wenger please.

 

[Slizz]

http://sulia.com/source/S-46013441/f/c704bbf2-0ba2-4bc2-ae86-a355524a3449/
Wenger please.

 

[elsk]

Sounds logical, Kagawa also moved to a worse club.

 

[faridmon]

I hate when Dortmund keep selling their best players every year.

 

[fuenf]

lol...

can u actually make this as an avatar for me?

like this?

 

[Kyoufu]

Sounds logical, Kagawa also moved to a worse club.

Pretty much. lol

 

[elsk]

like this?

Awesome.

 

[Moobabe]

The Man United loss was a dark day for me. That weekend would have been VERY dark if it weren't for Borderlands 2.

I meant to shout at you for that - you guys were awful!

 

[Noirulus]

http://sulia.com/source/S-46013441/f/c704bbf2-0ba2-4bc2-ae86-a355524a3449/
Wenger please.

I doubt Gotze will go for less than 40M. Also will Arsenal be able to offer him high wages that other potential clubs would?

Regardless, he would be a great fit with Arsenal's playing style.

 

[Salvadora]

I can't help but thinking what would've happened if the Mertesacker was playing against Chelsea. Fucking Koscielny has regressed this season, although in saying that Vermaelen wasn't much better in that game.

I doubt Gotze will go for less than 40M. Also will Arsenal be able to offer him high wages that other potential clubs would?

Regardless, he would be a great fit with Arsenal's playing style.

Regardless of new financial deals there is no way we'll match the big wages other clubs will offer.

 

[Clegg]

I'm cracking under the pressure. I need Dishonored badly.

BTW there is no chance Arsenal will sign Gotze. Dortmund would be looking for £30m at minimum.

 

[Phantast2k]

Götze & Reus are supposed to have a clause in their contracts. Each can transfer for 35m+ euro in 2014/2015. Before that you can pretty much forget about it unless we get relegated or something..

We're also apparently scouting this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0nRX1PU_ZM
Apparently an 18yo Lewandowski reincarnation.

 

[jtb]

I can't help but thinking what would've happened if the Mertesacker was playing against Chelsea. Fucking Koscielny has regressed this season, although in saying that Vermaelen wasn't much better in that game.


Regardless of new financial deals there is no way we'll match the big wages other clubs will offer.

Meh, I'm convinced Vermaelen was responsible for both goals. He's the one who conceded both free kicks. Wenger should've just gone for Arteta getting the captaincy, imo.