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Football Thread 2012/13 |OT6| Mumei almost banned EVERYBODY (but just Wilbury)

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Broder Salsa

Banned
PrematureQuiche said:
I don't spend any money on Chelsea other then shirts. When I attend there matches it is off a friends Season Ticket. Does that make me less of a fan? I loved Chelsea ever since I started supporting them when my brother convinced me to support them over Liverpool
thank fuck.

I have been to Stamford Bridge loads of times in my life and I love it. I have also apparently been to Anfield twice as a new born child :lol
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As a kid I've seen Brøndby win the league, complete with pitch invasion and everything. Should have reported my dad for child abuse really.
 
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juanpablo

Banned
Linius said:
I was born in Amsterdam and lived there for three years. My dad's been a life long Ajax supporter and visited the stadium many times back in the days. So it ain't much of a surprise that I became an Ajax fan myself. Because I don't have that much money to spend (I'm a student after all) I watch every game on the telly. I pay for that btw. I have some shirts and other merchandise. But I very rarely visit the stadium. Though I do have a membership card for which I pay. Does that make me less of a loyal fan according to your definition?
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Hey I salute anyone who puts time and money into a football club. But let's contrast your Ajax love with my experience. Imagine in the Netherlands instead of the great support your local clubs get, everyone, and i mean everyone, follows a German club team instead.

So instead of getting big crowds like your Ajax's, PSV's, Feyenoord's get, everyone would rather watch Bayern Munich on the TV on the Saturday/Sunday, and of course EVERYONE has a father, uncle, brother who followed Munich before etc. Thus, in their eye's, it legitimise's their support for said club despite having little or no connection with Munich itself.

And when asked why they do not follow their local Dutch club's, they say the league is shit. the standard of football is poor and the crowds are low?

How would you react as a passionate Ajax supporter to such a scenario?
 
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AndresON777

shooting blanks
Juanpablo is Hitcher alt

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elsk

Banned
My dad supports a local team, "Universidad" but only because his uncle was/is the owner of the club :p they got relegated to second division a few years ago.
 
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Meier

Member
No one in my entire family cares about soccer/football at all. Par for the course, sadly. Hopefully if Orlando City gets to MLS, that may change a bit.

I took my fiancee to an Austin Aztex game. She likes watching the Euros and World Cup and stuff but that's about it.
 
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dc89

Member
FM12 update:

City and United are level on points at the top of the table, United have a game in hand though. But they go to The Emirates and Goodison Park.

Are you sensing what I'm sensing?
 
B

Broder Salsa

Banned
elsk said:
My dad supports a local team, "Universidad" but only because his uncle was/is the owner of the club :p they got relegated to second division a few years ago.
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Brøndby/Liverpool/Schalke

It's terrible, at one point I thought Bjaelke might have been my father! Only way to make it worse would be with Inter, Juve or Lazio, but he thinks all Italian football sucks which... Is probably even worse. The idiot constantly has to loan my Copenhagen jerseys cause he makes bets with people at work, if Copenhagen wins over Brøndby he has to wear it to work, lol.

Vivalaraza said:
Just put some petrol in the car.

Donated money to City.

City fan confirmed :(
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Could be Chelsea too, don't deny your feelings for Hazard.
 
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Yen

Member
How do I receive channels on freeview now the switchover has happened in NI?!

Edit: nevermind found it. the freeview website is no help and very confusing.
 
J

juanpablo

Banned
JesusTom said:
You're treating football clubs like they're a charity. I could donate money to any team I want, doesn't make me a fan of the club.
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In the LoI's case, the clubs are very much a charity! When a cunty businessman ran Cork City FC into the ground a few years ago, ironically in an attempt to improve the 'standard' by playing players funny money in a forlorn attempt to attract the English Team's supporters to the LoI, without a supporters trust and the charity of supporters like me, CCFC would be dead now and I wouldn't have a club to support.

And CCFC aren't some backwoods team. We won the league, we played in various european campaigns and got decent results/respectable performances against decent enough opposition.

And we weren't the only one's. Shelbourne came oh so close to the holy grail of qualifying for the CL group stage's a few years back and just missed out. Shamrock Rovers had a decent run in Europe last year.

That's why it's incredibly frustrating to hear people who only follow English teams moan about the standard and the quality of the league of Ireland. We've come so close to matching the achievements which Danish, Swedish and Cypriot club teams have done, but its impossible to make that next step when English team supporters resolutely refuse to even engage with the LoI. They want Irish club team's to have the big stadium, the big name signings and the great European nights BEFORE they'll consider supporting a local team. It just doesn't work like that.
 
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Linius

Member
juanpablo said:
Hey I salute anyone who puts time and money into a football club. But let's contrast your Ajax love with my experience. Imagine in the Netherlands instead of the great support your local clubs get, everyone, and i mean everyone, follows a German club team instead.

So instead of getting big crowds like your Ajax's, PSV's, Feyenoord's get, everyone would rather watch Bayern Munich on the TV on the Saturday/Sunday, and of course EVERYONE has a father, uncle, brother who followed Munich before etc. Thus, in their eye's, it legitimise's their support for said club despite having little or no connection with Munich itself.

And when asked why they do not follow their local Dutch club's, they say the league is shit. the standard of football is poor and the crowds are low?

How would you react as a passionate Ajax supporter to such a scenario?
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If my league was shit I would acknowledge that and let people support foreign clubs if they feel better about that. Which club you support is heavily under influence of the people around you when growing up. If it's normal to support a foreign club in your area chances are that you go along with that tought.

And I don't think someone's loyalty to a club has anything to do with a persons location or the sums of money you donate or pay in some other way to the club. Loyalty is in your heart and comes with certain emotions regarding your favourite club.
 
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Meier

Member
WoodenLung said:
Brøndby/Liverpool/Schalke

It's terrible, at one point I thought Bjaelke might have been my father! Only way to make it worse would be with Inter, Juve or Lazio, but he thinks all Italian football sucks which... Is probably even worse. The idiot constantly has to loan my Copenhagen jerseys cause he makes bets with people at work, if Copenhagen wins over Brøndby he has to wear it to work, lol.
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You support a different team than your dad? Was it just a teenage rebellion kinda thing that made you switch? Funny story about the shirt swapping.
 
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juanpablo

Banned
Meier said:
No one in my entire family cares about soccer/football at all. Par for the course, sadly. Hopefully if Orlando City gets to MLS, that may change a bit.

I took my fiancee to an Austin Aztex game. She likes watching the Euros and World Cup and stuff but that's about it.
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How does the US football pyramid work Meier? What's the process for Orlando to make it to the big league? would you consider it possible for the MLS to have divisions with promotion/relegation in them?
 
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The_Hitcher89

Member
Eto'o vs Carragher

Bricks: Shat


I also put City petrol in my car. Our Ferrari just about scraped to our destination ahead of a Robin Reliant, and I'm not allowed to drive in Europe
 
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Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
Shockingly mediocre display. Still, take the point away from home and concentrate on winning the two home games.

AVB has a real job on to get the players up for this competition. Hopefully Bale, Dembele, BAE are back when we next play.
 
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juanpablo

Banned
Linius said:
If my league was shit I would acknowledge that and let people support foreign clubs if they feel better about that. Which club you support is heavily under influence of the people around you when growing up. If it's normal to support a foreign club in your area chances are that you go along with that tought.
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That's the problem, the LoI was very popular in Ireland up until the advent of English TV and football coverage. It seems odd now but the big clubs in the ol' days would pull in 5 figure crowds no bother. It's only become normal in recent decade's to NOT follow Irish football teams.

Linius said:
And I don't think someone's loyalty to a club has anything to do with a persons location or the sums of money you donate or pay in some other way to the club. Loyalty is in your heart and comes with certain emotions regarding your favourite club.
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I'd politefully disagree.
 
M

Meier

Member
juanpablo said:
How does the US football pyramid work Meier? What's the process for Orlando to make it to the big league? would you consider it possible for the MLS to have divisions with promotion/relegation in them?
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There was a discussion about it in the standard OT recently. As you might have imagined, it was mostly Americans saying they did not like the concept and everyone else extolling its virtues. As it stands, there is an extensive pyramid here but there is no relegation/promotion system. Sports leagues in the US are different in that they're heavily "socialist." Every team is partially owned by the league and much of the money is shared equally.

MLS (or the NBA, NFL, etc.) have to give permission to a city to become an expansion team (this requires approval from all of the other teams) and then the new team has to pay a large amount of money to join the league. In the MLS' case, it'll take $40 million to become a franchise. Orlando City will have to build a soccer specific stadium as well which would make it more attractive.

As it stands, the team is playing in a large American football stadium called the Citrus Bowl, but they'd like to build a ~20k seater that is similar to LIVESTRONG Park in Kansas City. The team was formed in 2011 after moving from Austin (a new team with the same name as the previous one was re-formed here in Austin.. funny coincidence given my ties to both cities) and won the championship its first year. They won the regular season title (most points) again in their second year but lost in the playoffs for the overall championship.

If anyone remembers Adrian Heath, he is the manager for Orlando City. The club just announced a 3-year extension of his contract this week. Here is the team's crest:

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