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Football Thread 2013-14 |OT2| Caravanning all the way to France
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Joel Was Right
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Fabregas is worth more than £30m. What's ludicrous to me however is how United think Barcelona would consider an offer only £5m higher than the previous one to which they've rejected publicly.
Frank the Great
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Why wouldn't you have Steam guard on in the first place?prices could rise after the sale, market is totally saturated ATM.
Yup, the summer badge cards are already going up in price by the hour. People are really dumb. I'm just going to hold on to mine, wait til the price tops out.
That is a ridiculous sized phone if it is indeed a phone. Who can tell these days.
p.s. Zaba is a handsome dude. *swoon*
This is instant camera. Probably Fujifilm Instax by its look, quite popular here (Hong Kong)
http://www.fujifilm.com/products/film_camera/instant/
Edit: Beaten
Vivalaraza
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Damn.
Rene, come back.
Rene, come back.
Yeah I noticed the apparent lens in the corner after Morsel suggested it may be an instant camera above. Good call on his part it seems!
LabouredSubterfuge
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You were nay-saying, Viva. You will have to repent before you can have Cesc party re-invitation.
Every single year we're at the top, if not near it. I can't even muster the energy to rant about it anymore, I've done it so many times.
There's something rotten at Arsenal.
Fabianski I assume. And Martinez if he gets injured.
Haven't a clue how long Szczesny's out for either. Fab had a back injury and was out for 6+ months.
I got rid of most of mine earlier today, wish I'd held on a bit but oh well.
Joel Was Right
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He is talking nonsense. Barcelona cannot just simply accept United's offer without giving Arsenal first refusal. The question isn't whether Cesc will join Utd or not - the question is would Cesc turn down Arsenal in favour of joining United. If Wenger were to re-sign Fabregas and at least one other world class player, there is no reason why the club could not do better than United in challenging for the title.
LabouredSubterfuge
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All my lols to you, Meus. All of them.
Vivalaraza
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Dunno man, Kaveh sounds pretty convincing and measured to me.
Lambda Pie
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is this real life?
Naughty God
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What does first refusal even mean anyway?
How does it work?
How does it work?
Vivalaraza
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Apparently Rene Meulensteen has taken over at Anji.
No sure if it's just as caretaker or not though.
Hopefully it's for good, now bid loads for our players Rene!!!
It means that before Cesc signs for us he's gonna tell Arsenal to do one.
No sure if it's just as caretaker or not though.
Hopefully it's for good, now bid loads for our players Rene!!!
It means that before Cesc signs for us he's gonna tell Arsenal to do one.
As much as I want Cesc him rejecting Arsenal will be the best thing that could come out of this.
LabouredSubterfuge
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No, no, Arsenal's right of refusal is being duly considered and summarily dismissed in this matter. Arsenal have sunk even lower since Cesc left and he has no reason to go back. You can't offer him the money and you can't offer him the possibility of trophies... unless he's keen on winning the 4th place trophy.
It's a tough call for Wenger though. If he doesn't feel he needs Fabregas at that particular moment in time, the club may choose not to exercise it, as daft as that sounds.
Cesc would improve Arsenal no end, but I get this feeling Wenger may look at Cazorla, Arteta and Wilshire and think "actually, I'm ok in CM, and if I'm going to spend that amount of money, I'd rather get a striker or centre back."
Joel Was Right
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LabouredSubterfuge
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In addition to my comment above, you're talking about Arsene "I won't spend" Wenger spending £25 million on an area of his team that least needs improving.
You see it in FM all the time if you have a club become an affiliate of yours. If I want to buy Player A from some team in Argentina for $10m, then maybe Corinthians can come in and match my bid and then be given priority in the bidding process. Obviously there's a bit more to it, but it means that the one club is at least allowed to match the offer of the other. Barca wouldn't be able to sell out-right without talking to Arsenal first and allowing them to match the bid.
They are getting a percentage of profit over their sale price to Barcelona it sounds like which would allow them to cut the effective cost down if they matched a high bid from Man U, but I've seen some people seem to think that they've locked in a £25m fee which is clearly incorrect. That'd just be a buyback option.
It means that if United agree a fee with Barca, then before the transaction can go ahead, Barca need to contact Arsenal and say "United have offered X amount for Fabregas and we've accepted, do you want to match their bid?" If the answer is no, the deal between United and Barca proceeds as normal, if the answer is yes, Arsenal get the first go at agreeing terms with the player.
Joel Was Right
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Wenger has already gone on the record saying Arsenal are monitoring the situation.
it's probably due to wenger's training methods.
Tim the Wiz
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Considered and dismissed by who? Not by Cesc which is what matters.
Judging from that Time's article, Arsene is still in contact with him in some capacity. Enough to come out and say he isn't leaving 'this year'. I think if there was ever a player we would spend that amount of money on, it's Cesc.
iirc an Arsenal ex-player (Nasri?) came out and said that we didn't even practise tackling in training.
The Hypocrisy of David Moyes. Sounds like a sequel to The Assassination of Jesse James.
http://www.thedaisycutter.co.uk/2013/07/the-hypocrisy-of-david-moyes/? -- the article is probably shit but I saw it pop up on NewsNow and got a kick out of the article title.
http://www.thedaisycutter.co.uk/2013/07/the-hypocrisy-of-david-moyes/? -- the article is probably shit but I saw it pop up on NewsNow and got a kick out of the article title.
Vivalaraza
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IMO Arsenal fans should stop referring to him as "Cesc".
To you he is "Fabregas."
You wouldn't call Januzaj, Adnan would you? Or Rooney, Wazza. Or RVP, Robin.
I encourage United fans to do the same until he signs for us.
To you he is "Fabregas."
You wouldn't call Januzaj, Adnan would you? Or Rooney, Wazza. Or RVP, Robin.
I encourage United fans to do the same until he signs for us.
LabouredSubterfuge
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I'm not re-doing my banners for my Cesc party.
wasn't the latest rumour with ye and Caesar that ye were telling him he needed a pay cut
Joel Was Right
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It would mean were Arsenal to match the bid, Barca would be obligated to sell to Arsenal rather than United regardless of the fact that United approached first and agreed a price.
Sometimes, the clause may even agree a pre-set transfer figure that would be accepted. For example, Man United bid £30m but Arsenal get the player for £20m.
Sleeplessnights
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When was PSG an upgrade? What are you on?
The bond between a player and his footballing father is clearly overstated.
(Unless you're Essien and Mou)
Steverulez
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It means Barce have to accept the Arsenal bid, he doesn't have to go to Arsenal above United, Barce accept and let the player decide...
Vivalaraza
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"Footballing father" hmm.
Adnan and his daddy.
Adnan and his daddy.
Just pointing out how hypocritical he's been since joining the United mob.
They've even managed to turn a man of morals
Well, that's not entirely true as Cesc could always turn down Arsenal and then proceed to negotiate with Man U. There is no obligation to sell to Arsenal per se, only to give them the first option to negotiate with the player.
If Man U had a bid of £35m accepted, Arsenal would perhaps only have to pay £30m due to the percentage profit deal that was apparently included in the original sale to Barca (if it's truly 50%).
i had no idea practicing how to tackle was even a thing.
i was talking more about wenger perhaps overtraining his players in pre-season.
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