LabouredSubterfuge
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He's not. He's about as good as Lingard. Might make it at PL level but never at a top team.
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Football Thread 2013-14 |OT2| Caravanning all the way to France
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He's not. He's about as good as Lingard. Might make it at PL level but never at a top team.
Fergie gave Moyes his book with Howard Webb's and David Bernstein's numbers.
Tim the Wiz
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Even if Rooney and Nani were to go, I expect Moyes will continue with Kagawa on the left. Maybe things will change and Shinji will be given the same freedom Mata has at Chelsea, but when Moyes was talking about forwards in a recent interview, he name-checked Rooney behind RVP, or RVP playing with Chicharito or Welbeck up front.
Valencia and Zaha will probably share the right. Young to be the backup we hopefully don't need; Adnan the one we deserve.
Gareth Bale
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I respectfully disagree. Whenever I saw him he wasn't just holding the ball in the corner. He made stuff happen.
Tim the Wiz
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Cole and Lingard will definitely reach PL level. Don't know if they'll make it at United, and they aren't potential stars like Adnan, but they have a decent shot at becoming rotation players.
We've kept many duff players at the club longer than they deserve to have been kept.
I would give him another chance if he stopped thinking he is some sort of player and asking for a huge pay packet and instead commit to a more realistic deal that would reward if he worked hard. Yet i don't see that happening.
why do we need to replace him?
It is a waste but at least we wont be paying him to arse around and squander the gift he has. He could've been great for us but that ship has since sailed.
Wtf is this lol
You are surprised that fans stick by their team? Maybe because aren't plastic fans who support a plastic club.
I mean being one of the most successful teams in England, must suck supporting them. Why don't they go and support the petro clubs?
Madrid fan forgetting just how alienated his club is from legitimate competition.
It's like a dollhouse, where his adored, sainted Benzema is the butler.
JuveBros, how about that Vajebah Sakor, eh? Looks quite promising. I had no idea he was only 17. Damn. He's obviously still quite raw, but he was bossing it throughout the training camp period. Would be nice if Conte gave him some playtime tonight. Dude deserves it, as does Fausto Rossi, who could very well turn into a Giaccherini 2.0 for us. I say we keep him in the squad with Marrone.
Bla, should've left it on the previous page. That's one ugly kit. And I usually love Bayern kits.
Bla, should've left it on the previous page. That's one ugly kit. And I usually love Bayern kits.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Not sure they're even good enough for rotation.
Is this because of his hat trick in the final? That was anomalous for him.
Because we have two below par squad wingers and Zaha who may possibly turn out to be good. If you think that's enough to win titles on a consistent basis then I can't help you. Adnan will be great I'm sure but we need someone talented now, not later.
Also, if anyone starts suggesting again that Welbeck is a competent winger I'm just going to take a hammer to my face.
Gareth Bale
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Nope. I didn't see that. I can't remember why but I missed the second half of that game.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Well I guess I've not seen the games you have (bar that hat trick which was impressive). I've just not seen anything convincing from him yet really. Although people are saying he's come on in strides in the last year.
Couldn't be more right without changing your name to Himmler.
Shatner's Bassoon
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You should post that kit on the next page also. I'll be disappointed if you don't.
Much like Nani being in form
Welbeck has zero competence whatsoever so I'm not going to suggest that.
Nani is already a below par squad winger for the most part. He's a waste of a wage and has shown little to prove that he will ever step up to the level that he could've attained. We have some potentially good young players like Bungie mentioned as well as Adnan, i would like to see them involved in the first team as they would at least give a damn on the pitch unlike Nani who is more concerned about getting wages on par with the top earners at the club.
And whilst we traditionally play with wingers there is no reason we cant change the team to play without them for a while either.
LabouredSubterfuge
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I don't think the answer to selling Nani should be to play foetuses. That's extremely risky and in my view much more risky than hoping Nani has a productive season under a new manager.
I also don't think the answer is to not play wingers at all for 2 reasons:
1. In the PL you generally need width to break down the nasty uber-defensive fucks.
2. Doing so would require very talented CMs and... well... ya.
Meus Renaissance
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Monreal will miss the start of the season with a back injury.
LabouredSubterfuge
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How many is that out so far?
We need Nani simply because he's more productive than any of our other wingers.
And I won't be able to watch the United game so United bro's will need to update this thread,every once in a while, and let us know how we're playing.
I expect many ADNAAAAAAAANNNNNN posts when he does something decent but relatively simple for any competent footballer. That's how we roll.
And I won't be able to watch the United game so United bro's will need to update this thread,every once in a while, and let us know how we're playing.
I expect many ADNAAAAAAAANNNNNN posts when he does something decent but relatively simple for any competent footballer. That's how we roll.
FootballFan
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Adnan is the prince that was promised.
It is known.
It is known.
Its a risk, but so is hoping that Nani will actually produce this year and not just do his usual nothingness and then leave on a free at the end of the year.
I would love it as much as anyone for him to find consistency and actually be the player he could be but nothing since he joined bar that one good season has shown he will be able to do that. Again if he were to sign a new contract at a realistic wage that would be great as he's clearly better than Valencia and Young bur that seems unlikely.
He is Ganoes Paran, Master of the Deck.
RVP is Rake.
Vidic is Caladan Brood.
Ando is Kruppe.
Meus Renaissance
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I'd rather not find out to be honest. Let me enjoy the next month in peace.
Pique: "United are wasting their time. It took a long time for Cesc to get his dream move back home and he won't give it up."
FlutterPuffs
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Nani is great when he gives a fuck.
Problem is he rarely does, and always tries to score when a pass would have lead to a certain goal. No one denies that he has the (physical) talent, problem is he has the decision making of a Football Manager player AI.
Problem is he rarely does, and always tries to score when a pass would have lead to a certain goal. No one denies that he has the (physical) talent, problem is he has the decision making of a Football Manager player AI.
FootballFan
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Would you recommend the Malazan books for an addict to 'A Song of Ice and Fire' aka A Game of Thrones?
When I thought it couldnt get worse:
i doubt we'll wear it often anyways. last season they also sticked to the red one most of the time.
This year is Marchisio's 20th with Juve.
Pasquato looked quite promising in preseason and now he's nowhere to be seen. Hell, I'm not even sure if he's still a footballer.
And think about it, if Marrone is barely playing, these guys won't even sniff the pitch.
Don't get your hopes up Zabo.JuveBros, how about that Vajebah Sakor, eh? Looks quite promising. I had no idea he was only 17. Damn. He's obviously still quite raw, but he was bossing it throughout the training camp period. Would be nice if Conte gave him some playtime tonight. Dude deserves it, as does Fausto Rossi, who could very well turn into a Giaccherini 2.0 for us. I say we keep him in the squad with Marrone.
Pasquato looked quite promising in preseason and now he's nowhere to be seen. Hell, I'm not even sure if he's still a footballer.
And think about it, if Marrone is barely playing, these guys won't even sniff the pitch.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Well, Marca reckon Bale has handed in a transfer request and that wages have already been agreed between him and RM.
(Can't see it on their website though)
(Can't see it on their website though)
I'd recommend em because they're really damn good. Not similar, though.
Get past that first insane book, and you're good.
Last years CL jersey was probably the best away kit Bayern ever had. Too bad that we have worn it just on few occasions...
With this years kit I'd be glad if we can hide it somehow.
KidA Seven
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Nani was pretty good in 2012 and 2010 as well. If you're complaining about bad form, why are you willing to excuse the other wingers when Nani was more productive than them? Valencia and Young topped the shitness chart over Nani last season. They were that shit.
And what happens if Rooney is sold? Nani having a good season is the only thing that would potentially save us if Rooney isn't replaced.
If Nani and Rooney were both sold, United's entire creative spark would rest on the shoulders of a small Japanese man named Shinji.
Valencia, even at his best, offers nothing special, he's just a machine with a killer right boot. Nani has a bit of magic, he still has it, it's not gone.
Valencia, even at his best, offers nothing special, he's just a machine with a killer right boot. Nani has a bit of magic, he still has it, it's not gone.
When and where have i excused the other two? Both are dire, it just doesn't need to be said.
so we sell Rooney and have to rely on Nani? What a sad state of affairs that would be. Might as well hope that Welbeck will be our top scorer.
Flair does not equal creativity.
KidA Seven
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I don't want to rely on Nani if Rooney is sold, but there is no one to replace Rooney right now. That's just the way it is right now. James would have been perfect, but he was sold to Monaco. He could have been the attacking midfielder (even better as he could be put on the left and let Shinji work the middle) to replace Rooney. Relying on Nani is a gamble, but it's much better than just selling Rooney and Nani.
Nani is a better player than Young and Valencia. Nani's best season was better than their best, and his worst season was better than Young's and Valencia's worst season.
Nani - 3 goals, 6 assists
Young - 0 goals, 3 assists
Valencia - 1 goal, 7 assists
Nani had the fewest appearances of all of them too. Again, it would be a disaster if Nani and Rooney are sold. At least Nani provides a spark and has better technique than Young and Valencia. He can potentially turn the best season of all of them, but that isn't guaranteed as last season proved.
I can't stress enough that Rooney being sold, and keeping Nani is a gamble, but it's still better than just guaranteeing a shit season from the left wing next season.
Nani can create something out of nothing, either with a long shot, a bit of skill, or his lightning pace, and close dribbling. You've got a short memory.
He might make the wrong decision sometimes, but it's there, he has it in his locker.
Van Persie can create, but I'm assuming he'll be played the furthest up the field and be the main goal scorer. He can be pretty creative too, though.
Personally, I wouldn't be selling Nani, and I would be buying another winger on top of him too.
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