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Football Thread 2013-14 |OT2| Caravanning all the way to France
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The 2004/05 season there was a lot of diamond; Drogba and Gudjohnsen played up front, Robben and Duff on both wings and Lampard behind them. It was 2005/06 when Essien came in and they started playing the 3 in midfield.
Yeah that was a wonderfully balanced midfield; if Alonso dithered on the ball and lost it, Mascherano would clean up. If Masch was in trouble, play simple sideways pass to Xabi and let him find whoever he fucking wanted.
Our full backs get forward an awful lot but because Carrick isn't the most mobile of midfielders and his partner is one of Tom '0 Attributes' Clev, Fat Ando or old cunt Giggs, we struggle when getting countered. Bale waltzing through our entire team still gives me fucking nightmares
The joke is if they offered 50m+ Liverpool would snap Arsenal's hands off....also Wenger would still walk away a hero in fans eyes
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The_Hitcher89
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Question for the Liverpool fans
Sell Suarez to:
a) Arsenal for £45m
b) Real Madrid for £35m
Sell Suarez to:
a) Arsenal for £45m
b) Real Madrid for £35m
Yeah apart from the FL show on at 1 in the morning while everyone turns off MOTD and the odd Guardian round up it's sadly neglected.
I agree with you on the first two I suppose, but I really appreciate the intelligence of a player like Makelele. Being that effective so consistently takes some doing. He was just so quick to break up attacks, like he could see shit happening far before anyone else.
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I see that you misspelled Real Gentleman CF.
It's okay Timerda no hard feelings as long as when the time comes you send Verratti in our way.
Vivalaraza
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hitcher89
I was aggressive and a dick to someone there.
Wenger should walk off a hero if we land Suarez. It would be a real coup after so many years in the wilderness.
The old Arsenal would be back.
Makelele, Viera, Keane, Silva,
Golden age.
Naughty, I think what you should be saying is that the old fashioned DM or holding mid is out of fashion.
Very few teams play with them anymore, such is modern football with these mad 4-6-0 and the fake number 10s and all this gee wizz.
Not to say they won't comeback or are useless, just many teams don't use them anymore.
But to say Mekelele is overrated? I know its subjective, but you are objectively wrong
Edit: Oh and new Childish Gambino for those who enjoy his stuff. https://soundcloud.com/childish-gambino/centipede
all more holding/central defensively minded players. DM is just a name.
Golden age.
Naughty, I think what you should be saying is that the old fashioned DM or holding mid is out of fashion.
Very few teams play with them anymore, such is modern football with these mad 4-6-0 and the fake number 10s and all this gee wizz.
Not to say they won't comeback or are useless, just many teams don't use them anymore.
But to say Mekelele is overrated? I know its subjective, but you are objectively wrong
Edit: Oh and new Childish Gambino for those who enjoy his stuff. https://soundcloud.com/childish-gambino/centipede
all more holding/central defensively minded players. DM is just a name.
It's also a nice statement of intent. If we land someone like Suarez, we can tell anyone who whines about no ambition to shut the fuck up and sign a contract.
Makelele, Viera, Keane, Silva,
Golden age.
Naughty, I think what you should be saying is that the old fashioned DM or holding mid is out of fashion.
Very few teams play with them anymore, such is modern football with these mad 4-6-0 and the fake number 10s and all this gee wizz.
Not to say they won't comeback or are useless, just many teams don't use them anymore.
But to say Mekelele is overrated? I know its subjective, but you are objectively wrong
Keane wasn't really a DM until the end of his career.
Neither was Vieira, all action fuck that he was.
Naughty God
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Yes, I did. I don't rate him as a player. How highly do you rate Park Ji Sung? Not too highly? Well I guess you didn't watch him properly in all the years that he was marking his opponents out of the game in big Champions League matches.
What was Makelele great at, other than breaking up attacks? Being great at one thing doesn't make a great footballer. He was great at what he did, there's no disputing that. There a million and one footballers who can do what he did but do other stuff as well.
RM for 35m, fuck seeing Gnasher in another PL team let alone playing against them/him
They were box to box monsters.
Do you and DeGod live together?
Facism
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jayz man you're never gonna find a woman whilst you beta it up obsessing over unobtainable wankbait celebrity.
Get out and get the work done. You got the power. I believe in you.
Yep, I was bounced for good. Fucking sucks.
No we are friends who are on holidays together
Vivalaraza
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Shit, Keane and Scholes really was just a wonderful CM pairing, they were wonderful together.
Now we have Anderson and Cleverley.
Why does bad stuff like that happen.
Now we have Anderson and Cleverley.
Why does bad stuff like that happen.
Broder Salsa
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Are you lovers though?
The_Hitcher89
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Its weird that the box-to-box midfielder died out while Gerrard was still playing it, and we haven't used him as one since. Wonder if we decided he just didn't have the fitness to do it every week, season-in season-out
Naughty God
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Makelele, Viera, Keane, Silva,
Golden age.
Naughty, I think what you should be saying is that the old fashioned DM or holding mid is out of fashion.
Very few teams play with them anymore, such is modern football with these mad 4-6-0 and the fake number 10s and all this gee wizz.
Not to say they won't comeback or are useless, just many teams don't use them anymore.
But to say Mekelele is overrated? I know its subjective, but you are objectively wrong
You don't think putting Makelele in the same sentence as Keane and Vieria is a bit ridiculous?
I do. They're both ten times the player Makelele was and examples of players who are great defensively and great at pretty much everything else. If we're looking at Makelele objectively, you can't call him a great footballer. He's a great defensive midfielder, which is the worst position there is.
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Sweet, how is Germany?
Yeah that was a glorious CM partnership. Two nasty fuckers too.
Yaya Toure still does box to box when he can be arsed.
It was not about the wanking, of which I have not done of her in quite a while. it was just a place where I had friends with a common interest.
Tim the Wiz
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Exactly. His positioning and anticipation was incredible. Selling him is up there with sacking del Bosque or passing on Eto'o as the biggest mistake of Galacticos era Madrid.
Its pretty warm this time of year.
I honestly don't know what to say lol.
I think Gilberto Silva is the best out of all of them, and I consider Makelele EASILY to be on their league.
On the bolded, just....i have no words. The worst position there is? I might be getting majorly trolled here but you aren;'t serious right? Did you seem him play often or was he a bit disappointing on Match of the Day?
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Naughty God
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No, replacing him with Beckham/Helguara was the big mistake. You could have got Davids who was twice the player.
Keane wasn't particularly good when he converted to a defensive midfield position either.
There were three stages in his career. The all action box-to-box midfielder, the slightly more reserved central midfielder (where he played the best football of his career imo) and the DM/CB.
In his early/mid twenties Keane scored a fair few goals. He was box-to-box and would sprint 60 yards to get into a goal scoring opportunity. After his knee injury he came back and wasn't quite box to box anymore. He still got forward but not quite as often. His job was to win the ball and either carry it forward or lay it off to a winger/Scholes.
That sounds like a pretty crude description of his job but imo he was possibly the most influential midfielder in the world between 1998-2001. He was just that good. Then we his legs started to go and his hip became dodgy we converted him to a defensive midfielder.
Vidal reminds me a lot of Roy Keane actually. The box-to-box incarnation at least.
There were three stages in his career. The all action box-to-box midfielder, the slightly more reserved central midfielder (where he played the best football of his career imo) and the DM/CB.
In his early/mid twenties Keane scored a fair few goals. He was box-to-box and would sprint 60 yards to get into a goal scoring opportunity. After his knee injury he came back and wasn't quite box to box anymore. He still got forward but not quite as often. His job was to win the ball and either carry it forward or lay it off to a winger/Scholes.
That sounds like a pretty crude description of his job but imo he was possibly the most influential midfielder in the world between 1998-2001. He was just that good. Then we his legs started to go and his hip became dodgy we converted him to a defensive midfielder.
Vidal reminds me a lot of Roy Keane actually. The box-to-box incarnation at least.
The_Hitcher89
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I can see why he'd think its the worst position tbf
Not expected to do anything going forward, and normally have others to sweep up if you fuck up going backward
Freewheelin'
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There's a reason he was called the 'Invisble Wall' in Brazil
Naughty God
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You think Gilberto Silva is better than Keane and Vieira?
I saw him play all the time. He was good at one thing, breaking up attacks. That doesn't make him a great footballer. No one would call Gordon Banks a great footballer, you'd call him a great goalkeeper. Makelele is a great defensive midfielder but I still can name many much better than him.
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