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Football Thread 2013-14 |OT2| Caravanning all the way to France
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The_Hitcher89
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Naughty God
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Vidal is as close to a Keane as you're going to get in this mediocre era we're in now, which is why I'd want us to break the bank to sign him.
When Makelele. Puts in a Keane in Turin performance, we'll have discussions about naming Makelele in the same sentence as. Roy Keane.
Broder Salsa
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Watching Gilberto Silva play a few years back was painful, almost felt bad for him although it wasn't clear if he just didn't care or if he had just turned to complete shit.
10M + Januzaj.
I would love this to happen.
Sleeplessnights
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Isn't there a rule that once you see the penis you've got to be over 60% loving?
:lol
It's true though really isn't it. An on form Toure is one of the best players in the world. Difference is Vidal does it every week while Toure does it twice a season and then cocks about the rest of the yearl
If he was playing against Copenhagen then he probably admitted defeat at the start
8m over thirteen years + Anderson
Broder Salsa
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Why would Suarez agree to go to Arsenal, doesn't make much sense. He could easily go to a much bigger club and one with much bigger chances of winning stuff, even out of England which he claims to not like to live in because people call him out on being a cunt.
He got sent off with a second yellow for handballing when he was too slow to turn around and actually run with N'Doye lol.
He got sent off with a second yellow for handballing when he was too slow to turn around and actually run with N'Doye lol.
If you want a serious answer then I think Fergie had a bit of a mare. He wanted a Keane type midfielder when there weren't really any available.
Hargreaves was a more defensive player and was a perma crock. We wasted to much time trying to get him back. The same happened with Fletcher when he became ill. We held on hoping that he'd return when we really should have been looking for new midfielders. And I don't eve want to know what he was thinking of with Ando.
Vidal really would have been the perfect signing. We seemingly weren't even interested in him when he went to Juve for £8m. It just doesn't make sense.
Naughty God
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It's not in the case of a team. It's just not how I would want my team to line up.
We're discussing individual players though and you can't compare Makelele who was as good as it gets at breaking up attacks with Edgar Davids, for example, who wasn't far behind but was much, much better at everything else.
Tim the Wiz
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That played a part, too. Davids would have been an excellent signing instead, if not exactly a replacement for Makelele. And, yes, I would agree that he was a better, more technical player.
But regardless, no-one broke up attacks as well or as consistently as Makelele. His short passing game and close control was perfectly fine; his stamina and intelligence were off-the-charts; and he was competent at everything else. That's what I quibble with: was he a great player? Absolutely.
Gareth Bale
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Ok this is getting ridiculous now
LabouredSubterfuge
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Join the club. It's really quite good.
Just wait until you see Ferna bossing the PL this year.
Seems churlish not to point out Ukrainian league =/=Serie A
Yeah, I don't get why he'd go either.
Broder Salsa
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We shouldn't give any credit to Davids though, was all that doping that got him that good in the first place.
The_Hitcher89
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11 hours until the next episode of The Coutinho Show
Cazorla consistently brilliant and Mata sporadically brilliant
Gilberto better than Vieira and Keane
Bendtner better target man than Drogba
Gareth Bale
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I might be wrong but I think those are the two CL games
Naughty God
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Just wait until you see Ferna bossing the PL this year.
The reason he has a 97% success rate is because he gets the ball and passes it 5 yards to a player who is better at doing other stuff. It's why defenders and defensive midfielders have such high pass success rates.
Tim the Wiz
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Didn't Ferguson say he didn't know who Vidal was that season? The scouting team certainly fucked that one up.
This was in their head to head games during the UCL. Ferna had an average rating of 7.83 during the 8 games they played.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Ah well that will teach me for not looking particularly closely.
The_Hitcher89
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Not being funny here, but in terms of Europe, are Arsenal not essentially in the same position as Ajax were when Suarez left them?
Naughty God
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Football isn't baseball. You can't judge a player based on stats.
Who's this authority on football that rates them? Ratings are pretty much always nonsense. You'd see a great performance from one of your players only for The Sun to rate them 5/10 the following morning.
Who's this authority on football that rates them? Ratings are pretty much always nonsense. You'd see a great performance from one of your players only for The Sun to rate them 5/10 the following morning.
The_Hitcher89
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Vivalaraza
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Only a matter of months ago Froggie said "In Germany you can't tackle, you're not allowed to tackle".
No wonder he didn't know who Vidal was.
You might think that. But then you examine the statistics and realize that Ferna had more successful dribbles than anyone else in the UCL at 3.9 per game (in 8 apps, his 31 overall is tops regardless of per game averages). For comparison, Isco averaged 3.3, Iniesta 2.7, Hazard 2.7, Ribery 2.4, Ronaldo 2.1, Robben 2.0 and Messi 1.9. He's a machine and he's going to blow people away this season. Can't wait.
Did he honestly say that?
We need to have a word with Martin Ferguson. This and the Isco comments are rather disconcerting.
Billy Big Bollocks
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I love it when you see a midfielder using strength and pace to just drive through the middle of the pitch, knocking the opposition out of the way. Yaya is the best at it in the prem right now.
Vivalaraza
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Messi had less successful dribbles than Ronaldo.
Something is wrong here.
Something is wrong here.
Sleeplessnights
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Absolutely not, you should see his jokes though. Holy shit.
We went further than Ajax last season.
And in the CL semi finals we saw both German teams using pace, strength and excellent tackling to beat a side that trounced us in two finals and another side who beat us a few months before.
He was a brilliant manager but he definitely had his bad moments.
A bit, though money's a big factor obviously. As small a jump up as Arsenal would be, who else would even be interested (that can afford the 50m fee + wages)? PSG and Monaco went for safer bets for the same price in Cavani and Falcao, Barcelona don't believe in strikers, Chelsea are set on Rooney. Don't see any Serie A clubs willing to pay such a huge fee. So who else is left? Madrid and Arsenal, basically.
Naughty God
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You might think that. But then you examine the statistics and realize that Ferna had more successful dribbles than anyone else in the UCL at 3.9 per game (in 8 apps, his 31 overall is tops regardless of per game averages). For comparison, Isco averaged 3.3, Iniesta 2.7, Hazard 2.7, Ribery 2.4, Ronaldo 2.1, Robben 2.0 and Messi 1.9. He's a machine and he's going to blow people away this season. Can't wait.
It's not a stats game.
So what was the huge thing you spoke about?
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