Gareth Bale
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I doubt Luongo is going to make the squad. I don't think he was ever called up when he was on our books.
edit: 1 cap in a friendly since we sold him Swindon
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I doubt Luongo is going to make the squad. I don't think he was ever called up when he was on our books.
edit: 1 cap in a friendly since we sold him Swindon
He's had a great season for PNE.
Speaking of which, did everyone see Joe Garner's goal? Imagine if this was scored in the PL, we'd never stop hearing about it.
brokenbeans
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Been under a rock the past two days, any news on Shaw and LVG?
Plenty of the young lads have gone as well, if you were interested in seeing some u-21s.
I'm still going to watch. Just wish we had some of our loanees back to see how they've developed. Borini time maybe?
LabouredSubterfuge
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Borini is reported to have flown out. Looks like Coutinho, Skrtel, Agger, and Allen will also play. Not sure about Assaidi. I'm curious to see how the team performs.
ShogunDarius
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I hope thats not true or Perez is a disrespectful arsehole
He's had a great season for PNE.
Speaking of which, did everyone see Joe Garner's goal? Imagine if this was scored in the PL, we'd never stop hearing about it.
Yeah, ridiculous. Tops Kasami's for me.
With Wilshere's ahead of both, obvs.
Getting Suarez to force a transfer really worked out well for Arsenal. I think Liverpool actually would be willing to sell assuming RM break £100million, but stupid shit like this wont' accomplish anything
True or not. He still is.
Have you not heard of Real Madrid?
Madrid must surely know that we would demand a higher fee than Bale. They set the precedent last summer.
Even if they can meet that fee, it's not as if we need to or want to sell.
Well then we are very unlikely to see Suarez playing in a white shirt next season.
Our away kit is yellow again
Then they can keep their smelly hands off.
So they won't be getting him then.
In any case, I'd imagine Liverpool would be more open to player exchanges than Tottenham were, and could see a lower bid plus the likes of Di Maria, Isco, Coentrao or Benzema succeeding.
Well, 10 million a year isnt that cheap to be honest.
So good. I love those guys.
This is Madrid's standard tactic with PL players, they did it with Modric and Bale and they will try it with Suarez. It won't work but it helps create a narrative for Marca. £70m sounds about right for Suarez, he's older, uglier and more of a twat than Bale so he won't go for a record fee.
It will be nice to have a summer without a Spurs-Madrid saga for once.
No, because Dortmund doesnt know what to do with all the money, so we pay them 40 million and all they do is buy Mickytaryan and Ramos. We give them another 40 million for Reus and they will buy Volland and Immobile.
ShogunDarius
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he is also the best player in the league and invaluable to LFC, so they will have to pay more than they did for Bale to get him.
Florentino has been using that tactic forever, handing transfer requests to force a move and make it cheaper.
It doesn´t mean he´s a disrespectful arsehole or that he´s not willing to pay 100 million. It´s just a (legit) negotiation tactic.
They are slowly becoming the best GAF meme
I must say there isnt a better meme for bad journalism than "Sport1".
Knowing Perez he wouldn't mind breaking the transfer record two years in a row, but I just don't see it happening. When the Bale talk started last year we originally wanted £100m or £86m + Coentrao, in the end the player started to behave badly and refused to work, Suarez will do the same thing and make keeping him impossible (if Madrid genuinely want to sign him and try all their usual classless shit). In the end you have to accept their offer through gritted teeth.
lol. True dat, true dat!
70m is not a respectable fee??
He won't go for that simply because he's worth more than that to us, even if he isn't to Madrid. I mean no offence by this, but really any sale of Suarez will likely result in a similar situation to what happened to you last summer. He's quite simply irreplaceable at this moment in time.
Not when Bale sold for far more by doing far less. Bale is a wonderful talent, but Suarez at this moment is on another level. You can argue age and marketability, but quite frankly those things mean jack shit to Liverpool, and they're the ones who set the price.
LabouredSubterfuge
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Bunch of mates.
I said all those same things last summer. At the end of the day it comes down to the player. If Suarez is happy to stay then you can refuse any offer. If, like all Madrid's targets, he starts behaving like a cunt and downs tools, you'll probably have to sell. I don't remember the last time one of these Madrid transfer sagas ended with the player staying.
Freewheelin'
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Well he downed tools last summer and we dealt with it quite well.
It's tough. I reckon we might be able to convince him to stay at least one more year, simply because we've got CL football now and actually shown we can challenge for the title (assuming we show suitable ambition in the summer market).
After that though, Suarez will be 28 next summer and in his prime. If he really wants to move to Spain, he probably wouldn't be able to delay it any longer, which is when I would expect him to really be pushing for a move.
He didn't though. Suarez trained, he took part in friendlies, he was part of the team even though he was distracted. Bale played one pre-season match in early July and then Madrid talked to his agent. From then on he didn't train, he refused to play any pre-season games, all he did was go to the training ground, pretend he was injured, and go home. When the season started he was not present at the stadium for any games and even went on holiday the week before we played Arsenal. Modric was the same.
When Arsenal make a bid for you nobody gives a shit, the best they could do was offer £1 more than the release clause. That's child's play compared to the underhand tactics Madrid will use if they want a player. If they really want Suarez they will make him force the move. Liverpool have a stronger hand than us with CL football and title-tilts to offer him, but it will still be incredibly difficult to keep him. If they actually want him.
You cant really treat the whole Bale affair as a standard for future transfers. Its an exception and not the rule.
Bales transfer was sort of a perfect storm as Perez wanted to get the club behind him which was turning against him and signing a star player was the best way to do it. Real needed a star signing which they had lacked for the past few seasons. Currently Real dont really need to spend that big on any 1 player as Benz has had a great year and Morata has had a break through season. Also there will be a big ego clash between Suarez and Cr7 as i doubt Suarez will play second fiddle to him like Benz does.
Bales transfer was sort of a perfect storm as Perez wanted to get the club behind him which was turning against him and signing a star player was the best way to do it. Real needed a star signing which they had lacked for the past few seasons. Currently Real dont really need to spend that big on any 1 player as Benz has had a great year and Morata has had a break through season. Also there will be a big ego clash between Suarez and Cr7 as i doubt Suarez will play second fiddle to him like Benz does.
TheLucifer
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Spalletti won't come to Milan next season. He asks for way too much money (4.5m/year) and his staff is too demanding as well (3 people, 1m/year each). So we're left with Inzaghi and Seedorf, which means that Pippo is going to be our new manager.
We don't need a big signing like Suarez. If Benz can build on his current decent season and Jese does even better than what he did this season it will be fine. I never liked the idea of splashing huge sums of money on world class players every summer, sometimes it's needed but sometimes we have to give our own players a chance.
Would Suarez be an improvement over Benz? In terms of making use of his goal scoring opportunities yes but unless he force his presence up front (much like Bale has had to do, and even then there's a tendency to still give Ronaldo the ball) he's not going to be used to his full potential. If you have Ronaldo - Suarez - Bale up there how are you going to distribute the play? They may cooperate with each other (to be fair Ronaldo and Bale do it pretty ok for their first season together) but all of them will want to score as many goals as possible. That and Suarez is a bag of controversies.
Would Suarez be an improvement over Benz? In terms of making use of his goal scoring opportunities yes but unless he force his presence up front (much like Bale has had to do, and even then there's a tendency to still give Ronaldo the ball) he's not going to be used to his full potential. If you have Ronaldo - Suarez - Bale up there how are you going to distribute the play? They may cooperate with each other (to be fair Ronaldo and Bale do it pretty ok for their first season together) but all of them will want to score as many goals as possible. That and Suarez is a bag of controversies.
The Incarnation
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Gareth Bale
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You really think Florentino Perez cares about things like this?
He bought Kaka and Ronaldo in the same transfer window.
FortuneFaded
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Park Ji-Sung has retired due to a knee injury and the realisation that he was a QPR player: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27404603.
FortuneFaded
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He's looking at that QPR shirt with resentment.
Of course he doesn't which is why it bothers me everytime, neither does any other Madrid president obsessed with signing a Galactico every year. It's stupid but they will continue in that path anyway, sign amazing players that we don't really need at the moment.
Don't forget that Barca was getting Neymar, if anything that put even more presure on Perez to get a big signing.
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