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Football Thread 2013/14 |ot22| Financial Fair Play? Je ne comprends pas.
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Baki
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Svia is right. They are a CL team, just not EPL. So maybe a sideways move.
Sviatoslav
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Similar quality team, weaker league but more chance at trophies and regular CL appearances. He's earning more money now too. Like I said, arguable.
FortuneFaded
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Being late to celebrate La Decima is actually a fitting tribute.
Sviatoslav
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Russia playing in 10 minutes. What a wonderful way to start the week. Thank you, based Capello.
FlutterPuffs
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.....a man after my own heart.
Everytime I hear Miliband talk i want to shoot myself, he might be the least charismatic, most dull and boring politician I have ever seen.
Also Wellbeck still wants out and thinks he is a good player, he seems utterly oblivious to how many chances he fucks up, how terrible he is infront of goal and how utterly expendable he is in the long term.
Also Wellbeck still wants out and thinks he is a good player, he seems utterly oblivious to how many chances he fucks up, how terrible he is infront of goal and how utterly expendable he is in the long term.
pulga
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And yet people still have the stones to call him an egocentric cunt and such.
Though you do have to wonder WTF at the Sporting scouting system. And as someone else said, the unemployed dude is a fucking genius lol
I cancelled my Labour membership when he won the election ahead of his brother.
I'm not sure if the recent Welbeck love-in (you've noticed it too, right?) isn't just a big joke that I don't get.
FlutterPuffs
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He improved from shit to good. We love him because unlike most of the team during Moyes' reign, he actually shows up in big matches and (finally) was composed to boot.
Can't be surprised if he wants to leave. RVP will of course be LVG's main striker, everyone else can wait their turn.
Sad though, because I'm expecting good things from him next season.
davidcotton
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Jim White must be loving the fact that QPR got promoted at the weekend.
It's the same as the Kagawa love-in.
LabouredSubterfuge
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The Kagawa love-in is based on the fact that we know he's good. We have lots of evidence of it, just not very often in a United shirt.
Welbeck just flirts with almost-ness a lot of the time (far more so than with Adnan imo) and hasn't really broken through for me. Very frustrating player.
dat local club
Both unproductive players elevated way beyond their ability by the fans.
Same situation though.
Both unproductive players elevated way beyond their ability by the fans.
He improved from shit to good. We love him because unlike most of the team during Moyes' reign, he actually shows up in big matches and (finally) was composed to boot.
Can't be surprised if he wants to leave. RVP will of course be LVG's main striker, everyone else can wait their turn.
Sad though, because I'm expecting good things from him next season.
I can't deny that he's been one of the better players in the big matches, but he still doesn't score in them (other than Madrid away last year). He just puts himself about a lot, gets in positions to score and then does a Danny Welbeck by missing an easy chance. You look at the teams that United want to compete with in Europe and you don't see players of Welbeck's wastefulness (the stats nerds will tell me he has a 0.475 conversation rate or something, but the eyes, chico, never lie).
He's a lanky and pacy Dirk Kuyt, essentially.
United should sell him with a buy-back clause, because I don't think it's ridiculous that he might become a good striker one day, but United isn't the place to find that out.
FlutterPuffs
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Not denying it.
Still love the guy though. Will wish him luck wherever he wishes to get transferred to.
That was Welbeck from 2 seasons ago, who was as you said, the worst striker in the EPL statswise.
He really improved last season. I used to hate him more than Young.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Well like I said, both have seemingly under-performed relative to their perceived potential ability. Thing is we have plenty of evidence that Kagawa is far better than he's showing. With Welbeck I'm less sure of his ability to improve past what he currently is.
Bit like us with Shelvey. If you think he's not quite good enough to merit at least 15 starts, he should go.
Hopefully our transfer business will pick up a bit now Rodgers has his contract sorted. Think Lallana is off the table though if MoPo goes to Spurs. I fully expect he'll want to follow, and Saints will get the £25m from Spurs they'd want for him.
He improved from shit to good. We love him because unlike most of the team during Moyes' reign, he actually shows up in big matches and (finally) was composed to boot.
Can't be surprised if he wants to leave. RVP will of course be LVG's main striker, everyone else can wait their turn.
Sad though, because I'm expecting good things from him next season.
He has to learn to shoot, he didnt show up in big games because when he had the big chances he fluffed them time and time again, he's not a young gun anymore, he cant get away with being enthusiastic with no end product.
Not denying it.
Still love the guy though. Will wish him luck wherever he wishes to get transferred to.
That was Welbeck from 2 seasons ago, who was as you said, the worst striker in the EPL statswise.
He really improved last season. I used to hate him more than Young.
It's the very same Welbeck. There were numerous instances last season of Welbeck choosing the wrong kind of shot because he wants to be seen as a flair player. Here's one of them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOMSLaBkLJQ
If Welbeck is one on one with the keeper and you're not expecting him to score, there's a problem and it's with him (and to be fair, with you).
dat brand value
Im skeptical that Bayern Munich is a stronger brand than Real Madrid, Man United or Barcelona.
I respect your opinion.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Welbeck needs to be trained in the 'like to round the keeper' instruction from FM.
Before or after he's trained as an accomplished AML...?
There's more to football than goals, he's not a traditional striker. There's been plenty of players who have stuck around big clubs for decades with less than great goal scoring records and less natural ability.
Watching Welbeck since before he got in the first team, he can strike the ball pretty sweetly, all he needs is a run of games to gain confidence and composure. He's not going to get that regularly at United up top, but he's shown himself to be a big game player in a variety of positions. Not everyone has to be Aguero or Falcao.
It's a squad game, and he's a valuable asset, if he's not happy with that, and he leaves, it'll be a shame, but understandable.
Watching Welbeck since before he got in the first team, he can strike the ball pretty sweetly, all he needs is a run of games to gain confidence and composure. He's not going to get that regularly at United up top, but he's shown himself to be a big game player in a variety of positions. Not everyone has to be Aguero or Falcao.
It's a squad game, and he's a valuable asset, if he's not happy with that, and he leaves, it'll be a shame, but understandable.
The_Hitcher89
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The Brodgect continues
No one really has an issue with him being United's 3rd or 4th striker. It's his ultimatum of getting first team football or he's off that people don't like. Who are these players who've stuck around big clubs for a long time with poor goalscoring records and less natural ability, out of interest?
Still dunno if Welbeck is better with a partner or without.
Obviously he ain't the most prolific of forwards but his European performances have been top notch the last couple of years. Kid has got something alright.
I think a move would benefit him, either of the North London clubs makes sense and he would probably be guaranteed quite a bit of game time.
Obviously he ain't the most prolific of forwards but his European performances have been top notch the last couple of years. Kid has got something alright.
I think a move would benefit him, either of the North London clubs makes sense and he would probably be guaranteed quite a bit of game time.
LabouredSubterfuge
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I'd be very intrigued to see how he develops under Gahl. Hopefully he stays another year to see if he can fully break through or not.
That said if we sold him for a decent fee then I wouldn't exactly be devastated.
That said if we sold him for a decent fee then I wouldn't exactly be devastated.
FlutterPuffs
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He improved exponentially last season. This next one is what will make or break him as a star.
He'll probably make a great second striker along side Giroud.
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