The_Hitcher89
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But there will be...
He looks like he's trying to hold his own hand back like Dr Strangelove
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He looks like he's trying to hold his own hand back like Dr Strangelove
I'm hyped
Doesn't take into account Pelle's good all round play, assists or being devilishly good looking.
KidA Seven
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The reason we didn't win as much when Ruud was there was because our defense wasn't up to scratch and then we transitioned to the young Rooney and Ronaldo era. Some of the squad was kind of weak towards the latter years.
Seems like a bit of a waste of his attacking talents. But I suppose Barca can piss away money any way they feel like.
According to wiki he's currently working at FC Utrecht, Nyx club.
Gentle Rodriguez
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He's been crucial in some big games, I'll give him that.
Dunno, but I we really need some players. I'm not sold on Zivkovic+Milik only for strikers as one hasn't proven himself yet and the other is only 17(but I have really high hopes for him in just 2 years), but I don't know who we could get. A right winger is crucial though, I want Schöne on midfield.
Let's just hope to god nobody buys Blind, we have no backups and Poulsen is dead.
That's nice. As mentioned already, the graph is essentially an accurate measure of chance conversion. It is not "good players at the top, bad players at the bottom". It does not show the ExpG figure, as I noted, it does not show strikers that may be good at creating lots of good chances for themselves.
It does not show passing ability, it does not show expected assists, it does not show key passes per 90. It does not show dribbling ability. It does not show defensive contribution, it does not show interceptions and tackles.
All the graph shows, again, is how many of their chances a player scored versus how many they should have scored. Some players will finish averagely but be very poor at making chances or contributing any other way. Some players will finish very poorly but still end up looking good because of external factors. It is not a complicated graph.
I think the Championship indication is quite accurate for teams like NAC, ADO, Heracles, Go Ahead, Dordrecht, Willem II, Excelsior and Cambuur yes.
Groningen/Heerenveen/AZ/Zwolle/Utrecht are like relegation material in the PL.
A quick google tells me they have a slightly smaller stadium than we do, and a squad of players I don't recognise at all. Barazite was Arsenal iirc and Van Helzen was some kid who United always booted out on FM
I'll cheer for them
Go Utrecht go
Sounds alright. Fairly competitive bar the big boys? Or is there some team who gets 10 points and a pat on the head
Broder Salsa
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Assuming you're not joking, I'm merely an interested observer of stats analysis rather than someone who does any of the work himself.
My view of Pelle comes from this article from 11tegen11 (a good stats blog mostly focused on dutch football): http://11tegen11.net/2014/01/15/how-to-scout-goal-scoring-talent/
Here's the relevant part:
The graph is showing expected goals versus actual goals scored. As you can see, Pelle is one of the worst at converting his chances, his red bar indicates he is more than 2 standard deviations from the mean. He got a lot of goals for Feyenoord because they created so many good chances for him, he is very poor at actually putting them away.
Now, of course a striker does a lot of work creating chances as well, so it may be that Pelle is very good at making shooting opportunities for himself, but given his poor records at previous clubs, it is likely that his good goalscoring is mostly down to Feyenoord, not Pelle.
Dat Piazon. Why did they all of a sudden send him to the b team, silly club.
Also lol De Ridder, we bought him.
No, if you look at the table from last year you will see everyone is pretty close to each other. Only PSV/Ajax/Feyenoord/Twente and Vitesse can really make a difference. Maybe ADO next year too, they have a new (rich) owner.
Gentle Rodriguez
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Oh wow I didn't know Copenhagen had to resort to buying trash strikers.
cartoon_soldier
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Broder Salsa
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Well tbh he doesn't really need to be the one scoring the goals, just the goal who will do unpredictable stuff for us and take on players, which we desperately lack at the moment. I might just go see him in a few days, in our test match against Lyon.
Hang on hang on hang on
Who is this chubster
Utrecht have won my hearts
And pies have won his by the look of it
This is pizza guy. People yell 'OOOOOOOHHH PIZZA' whenever there is a goalkick.
Poulsen is dead? He's leaving
And Zivkovic/Milik is a big gamble yeah. Think we need at least a third striker in case of injuries. I have no clue who though. On the right we have El Ghazi who I think can make a step up to the first team as the season goes on. I hope we get Ziyech as a first choice. I think he can do well for us. And Muric of course is also a right winger. Who can also play on the left btw. We have quite some trouble on the left too at the moment with no Fischer for six months. Only Kishna for that position basically. Maybe Meleg if he can step up. We should get Kostic.
And indeed, pray to the seven Gods we don't lose Blind. We can have a solid midfield with Blind, Schöne and Klaassen. Serero and Duarte as back ups. Might wanna get another quality midfielder though. Boilesen, Veltman, Moisander and Van Rhijn in the back. With Viergever, Denswil, Dijks and Ligeon as most important back ups.
The_Hitcher89
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Sometimes I just start reading about WW2 on wikipedia and fall into a sinkhole of information, imagination and nationalism
Hang on hang on hang on
Who is this chubster
Utrecht have won my hearts
And pies have won his by the look of it
You post the player who sold Utrecht for you in an Ajax jersey, linett pls
Broder Salsa
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You mean THE BEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAST
Haha, don't expect to see Gilmour and Waters go on tour again. Would be nice though. I really enjoyed Waters The Wall gigs.
Yeah, the latest The Wall tour was amazing. Audiovisual overdose. I'm still waiting for that fucking blu-ray release. Move it, Waters.
Waters isn't involved, btw. Which is just as good, tbh.
I don't expect a tour either.
Although ... maybe ... in a few selected cities, like in 2006 ... I'd be willing to pay up to 1000€ to see Gilmour live at this point.Probably the only shirt they could find which fit him
cartoon_soldier
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LVG GIFS!
Gentle Rodriguez
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Poulsen is dead? He's leaving
And Zivkovic/Milik is a big gamble yeah. Think we need at least a third striker in case of injuries. I have no clue who though. On the right we have El Ghazi who I think can make a step up to the first team as the season goes on. I hope we get Ziyech as a first choice. I think he can do well for us. And Muric of course is also a right winger. Who can also play on the left btw. We have quite some trouble on the left too at the moment with no Fischer for six months. Only Kishna for that position basically. Maybe Meleg if he can step up. We should get Kostic.
And indeed, pray to the seven Gods we don't lose Blind. We can have a solid midfield with Blind, Schöne and Klaassen. Serero and Duarte as back ups. Might wanna get another quality midfielder though. Boilesen, Veltman, Moisander and Van Rhijn in the back. With Viergever, Denswil, Dijks and Ligeon as most important back ups.
For some reason I remember Poulsen getting another 1-year extension, that's good then.
With Kishna, Meleg, Muric, Zivkovic, El Ghazi and Denswil we have a lot of players that just aren't ready yet, so we'll have to plug that hole without hindering their development. We're good on defense and midfield but our attack is filled with a ton of talented players without any of them being ready for CL or even Eredivisie besides some exceptions.
Ziyech would be awesome, Kostic would also be very valuable for 2 years or so until our wonderkids get online.
The_Hitcher89
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Tell me he's faster than Sanchez
Tell me he's more muscular than Shaqiri
Tell me he's younger than Shaw
Tell me he's got more children than Sterling
Tell me he's got more magic than Suarez
Tell me he's blacker than Sakho
Tell me he's balder than Skrtel
Tell me he's got better hair than Suso
Tell me he's a dancer like Sturridge
Tell me he's got tears from Lambda
Yeah, the latest The Wall tour was amazing. Audiovisual overdose. I'm still waiting for that fucking blu-ray release. Move it, Waters.
Waters isn't involved, btw. Which is just as good, tbh.
I don't expect a tour either.
Best concert I've ever been to without a doubt.
Saw The Wall at the M.E.N arena in Manchester a few years ago. Incredible.
Eh, he's alright.
cartoon_soldier
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Maybe he has the biggest dick from all of them?
The_Hitcher89
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cartoon_soldier
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Yeah, the latest The Wall tour was amazing. Audiovisual overdose. I'm still waiting for that fucking blu-ray release. Move it, Waters.
Waters isn't involved, btw. Which is just as good, tbh.
I don't expect a tour either.
That's a bit much. But Gilmour is in the category I'd be willing to pay up to around 100 euros for. Leonard Cohen tier.
Considering Fischer is one of the most experienced attackers we have
I wonder who De Boer got his eye on. There's only one option here, The Hunter comes home!
YES TC!
Gilmour is my favourite guitarist. Please understand. Okay, maybe not 1000, but I'm flying wherever he's playing, that much I'm certain of.
Gentle Rodriguez
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Considering Fischer is one of the most experienced attackers we have
I wonder who De Boer got his eye on. There's only one option here, The Hunter comes home!
Get excited for fat unmotivated Van der Vaart instead.
Gilmour is my favourite guitarist. Please understand. Okay, maybe not 1000€, but I'm flying wherever he's playing, that much I'm certain of.
I traveled to Paris to see the Arctic Monkeys last year (for the second time that year), I won't argue
I think I don't even wanna know how much money I've spend on gigs and festivals. But the good memories and great moments are worth it.
Yeah, looks like it's very possible. I dunno, we have a solid midfield without him. But on the other hand he knows the club, is experienced and still has some class. For the right price I'd take him in a sort of Poulsen role.
KidA Seven
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Jonny Greenwood is my favorite guitarist.
Yeah, the latest The Wall tour was amazing. Audiovisual overdose. I'm still waiting for that fucking blu-ray release. Move it, Waters.
Waters isn't involved, btw. Which is just as good, tbh.
I don't expect a tour either.
Anyone charging ridiculous ticket prices automatically goes on my "they're shit" list, regardless of the quality of their music. Not including touts, obviously. Though I wish bands would follow glastonbury's approach and just stop those pricks being an issue.
He is a great one. He makes Airbag and There There sound absolutely incredible, in particular.
Broder Salsa
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I saw the dark side of the moon performed by Waters 5 years ago or so, it was alright, but i was kind of angry as the crepes place had closed at Roskilde Festival and I was really hungry. I wanted to eat my crepes with nutella in while listening to it.
I dunno, on the one hand I to think it's a shitload of money and too much. But then I just really want to see some of these lads play and I just get ticks. Leonard Cohen, Paul McCartney, Neil Young and Roger Waters are all in that category. Leonard being the most expensive one.
cartoon_soldier
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I have never seen a concert in my life
Not a fan of loud, crowded places. Even though I live in India...yeah
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