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Football Thread 2013/14 |OT25| Louis evangaalism strictly prohibited
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The last stanza is absolutely sensational. It builds and builds and builds and builds, you can hear the drums beating harder and harder and the voice getting louder and louder
And then that crescendo
Absolutely incredible
Given that he's quite clearly a stopgap I don't see United as a massively resurgent force however there's no denying that he's an infinitely more competent coach than David Moyes.
Moyes is a manager who got 30% out of his players and I think Gaal will extract, like, 70%.
m8 have you seen what he's done to fucking concrete ron
I have a sneaky feeling we're going to win the quadruple
Janmaat is ok, but we gonna sign Stefan DeathRay
It's by a Portuguese bloke though
I respect your opinion.
Vivalaraza
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Lambda is a father. That's just mental to me.
Not a slight on his parenting or anything btw, not at all, just find it crazy.
Not a slight on his parenting or anything btw, not at all, just find it crazy.
Janmaat is about as good as we can expect for a replacement for Debuchy. He's cheap and will do well I think. No way do I want Micah Richards or Carl Jenkinson anywhere near the first 11.
I would love Blind too. Would slot in perfectly for a year and a half before pissing off.
Just to clarify I think the reason he won't get the maximum from his players at United will be a combination of discontent with his methods, him not being Ferguson, the pressure of United weighing too heavily on the squad and a lack of belief following on from last season.
Whilst I accept he's a better coach than Moyes I don't expect him to have the exact same gains with this United squad as he did at the a World Cup.
Expectation changes everything. United expects. The players expect. The fans expect.
Unfortunately he's coming into a very difficult job in a very difficult league and I think he'll have a very difficult time of it.
Nah, Gaal is a proper manager with balls of fucking GORILLA GLASS
But let's hope you don't get Bayern's Gaal, because apart from winning the league once by default, he was a fucking disaster. Even his transfers (and veto'd transfers) were mindboggling
Van Gaal is good for providing foundations.
But I can see him doing well in Manchester. At Bayern it was a battle of egos. Van Gaal vs. Ribery vs. Rummenigge and Hoeneß.
Who should give him contra at Manchester? The players? Please. All soft. The management? Soft.
He can go all out. And I think he will end up with good results.
Me too.
The opposition is, on a whole, stronger than Van Gaal has ever faced in his managerial career. He's going to be in for a shock when he plays Arsenal/Liverpool/City/Chelsea/Everton/Spurs and all the scrappy sides at the lower end of the table.
FortuneFaded
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When the Van Gaal project fails, can Moyes be given a second chance?
The Glazers ambition
Vivalaraza
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He's going to be in for a shock
:lol
M8. He's seen more football than you've thought of.
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M8. He's seen more football than you've thought of.
I assume you don't expect the title?
Aye, I think you'll have a man sent off and we'll win handsomely in both fixtures.
Lallana just dancing around everyone.
Vivalaraza
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King Kenny was doing that Messi dink finish like 40 years ago.
Don't let their false modesty fool you, I'm pretty sure deep down the pores in their premfaces, they're thinking about it.
cartoon_soldier
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I think he can get "more" out of the players the way Fergie did, well not all but at least some of them. I easily see the likes of Carrick, Valencia, Evans, Herrera, Shaw, Mata, De Gea being good with him and giving us great performances. RVP of course will.
We will probably have to see how Rooney goes. Either he puts in extra effort to impress LVG or he thinks he "deserves" things which will lead to bad things. The other English players are also wild cards here.
The players who want to work hard, stay at United will be fine with LVG.
4th is the trophy. Anything else is gravy.
I'm really excited for the entertainment factor.
Personally, I don't think he will fail.
Just that it will be a very difficult job with high expectations (regardless of what the fans say otherwise).
Stop, you sound like Wenger.
Van Gaal's goal will be to challenge for the title, and it should be all the fans goal too.
Good article on Messi by Biscotti - http://www.espnfc.us/team/argentina/202/blog/post/1947707/messi-making-the-difference-at-right-time
Nope. I think the minimum requirement - as it will be every year - is top four. Unfortunately, there's six teams in the Premier League whose minimum requirement is the top four.
I have a feeling we'll get it. Not sure who it'll be at the expense of. Maybe a sneaky outside bet for a title challenge, but that's because the competition is strong and everyone can take points off each other. We're certainly not favourites.
Nope. I think the minimum requirement - as it will be every year - is top four. Unfortunately, there's six teams in the Premier League whose minimum requirement is the top four.
I have a feeling we'll get it. Not sure who it'll be at the expense of. Maybe a sneaky outside bet for a title challenge, but that's because the competition is strong and everyone can take points off each other. We're certainly not favourites.
Side-footing it 3 yards wide of an open goal with minutes left.
Like Joe Allen.
I can see his future.
cartoon_soldier
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Of course. Difficult as fuck. Not sure about others here, but I didn't expect Moyes to even challenge for the title, filling Fergie's shoes with the squad he left us is a miracle no one can perform. But LVG won't embarrass us like Moyes
If he does I commit sepuku'/spoiler]
Broder Salsa
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Hey now, I don't think wenger references to anything but gravy, when using the word gravy.
cartoon_soldier
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For a team not in Europe at all vs. Wenger talking about Arsenal that is already in Europe. And I don't see United winning a title for at least 2 more seasons.
Big Fucking Difference.
Vivalaraza
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Of course.
But I think the last think he's in for is a shock. He's a well learned and experienced manager.
It will be other things that's make his life difficult - like our shit players.
CL finalist Bayern were a couple of bad results away from midtable in a one team league
You gon be shocked
Nah u gon be fine
They finished three hundred points ahead of everyone, pls
Erm, that's exactly what I'm referring to.
He's in for a holistic shock.
Just like Moyes. Who's seen more football than I've ever thought of and experienced over a decade of learning and managing.
Vivalaraza
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I don't expect us to challenge for the title this season, not with the squad we have. If we go out and spend £150m on some amazing players in the next few weeks then absolutely that will be the minimum. But we won't.
Season after next, if were not challenging, it will have been disappointing.
I predict we finish top 4, mainly cos it's depressing to expect anything else, and I hope we don't celebrate it like some kind of achievement.
Season after next, if were not challenging, it will have been disappointing.
I predict we finish top 4, mainly cos it's depressing to expect anything else, and I hope we don't celebrate it like some kind of achievement.
It will be Anita all over again. You steal one of our key players only to put them on the bench. Please stay away.
That's the worry.
Sell a world class player and use the cash to fund a plethora of unspectacular ones. Markovic has me excited but Lallana, Lambert and Can don't make my dick twinge at all.
Okay maybe Can but that's because of his follicles.
Obviously you'd be very happy to be back in the Champions League after a year without it, but that's a minimum, not the goal, a goal is something to reach for. Expectation is something else.
I still expect United to get dicked on by City and co, but they should return to beating the bottom half teams, hopefully, and we all know that's what keeps you in the challenge, consistency.
Vivalaraza
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Salva said he'll be in for a shock when he sees the opposition.
I don't see how or why that would shock him.
Yeah, Liverpool are definitely looking the most susceptible so far I think. They're likely to get a tough CL group, and I don't think any of their signings so far are incredibly mind blowing (not that United's are, but they're an improvement in terms of first team football at least). Haven't seen much of Can and Markovic, admittedly.
In fact, their biggest plus - much like LVG with Holland - is their coach. Rodgers got miracles out of that squad last year, and with Suarez gone will have to do the same again.
In fact, their biggest plus - much like LVG with Holland - is their coach. Rodgers got miracles out of that squad last year, and with Suarez gone will have to do the same again.
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