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Football Thread 2013/14 | OT3
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Is that why he left? Damn.
LabouredSubterfuge
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He was also bloody good when he did play.
Well he was a crap signing.
Hargreaves wasn't shit though, hence why I didn't include him!
I personally thought Berba was shit at United, he was just too inconsistent and down right lazy apart from the one time he ran box to box to score.
Vivalaraza
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Hargreaves was an outstanding player.
United and England really lost out on a great great talent.
The game against Portugal in 2006 was when I first realised just how good he was. Made all the other England "stars" look shit.
Yep, just like Berbatov.
But really that's a quite different point.
He's not that great, honestly.
Milchmonster
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No, that's money.
KidA Seven
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I'm more upset at Smalling being played out of position than Jones. Smalling in 2011 was really good at CB. Injuries, Fergie playing Evans more often at CB (he can't play as a fullback), and being played out of position kind of ruined him.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Champions League 2011/12: 8 starts 2 sub appearances.
Players who had more starts: Ribery, Boateng, Gomez, Lahm, Kroos, Badstuber.
32 starts in all competitions. He was first team through and through.
Thing is a few of the players listed in the City and Liverpool teams aren't crap players either. They too have been crap signings.
Vivalaraza
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He still has time to pull it back. Initially he was really good, he was even doing okay at RB.
Injuries and a run of really poor form (the two combine I guess) haven't helped, we have alot of competition at CB so it's tough to justify playing him.
But one major major problem in his game is that he is just terrible on the ball, he makes so many mistakes playing the ball out...
KidA Seven
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Yeah, but you can't move Evra from that spot. Also, Fergie prefers Smalling and Jones to play as fullback over Evans so their versatility kind of backfires their cb development.
True. He's never injured either.
KidA Seven
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Evans is better right now. In 2011 I thought Smalling was the better player.
I prefer Evans' distribution from the back. Smalling and Rio irritate me with their hoofball.
Hasphat'sAnts
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We've watched him play for 2 and a half years. He's good. No doubt about it.
Not everyone can be Martinez/Biscuits, but if you give him the right role, he's a beast.
Vivalaraza
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Ferdinand is probably playing his last season at the club now anyway, Vidic only has a year left too, hopefully we renew because we'll need his experience considering Ferdinand and Giggs are most likely calling it a day next summer.
Personally think Jones should be given priority this season, but it'll be the same old rotation.
Infact that is going to be a big challenge for Moyes. Ferguson was really amazing at rotating and utilising the squad, keeping people happy and picking the right games for them (mostly).
Moyes just stuck to a core 13/14 players at Everton, kind of because he had to. This is totally different.
Personally think Jones should be given priority this season, but it'll be the same old rotation.
Infact that is going to be a big challenge for Moyes. Ferguson was really amazing at rotating and utilising the squad, keeping people happy and picking the right games for them (mostly).
Moyes just stuck to a core 13/14 players at Everton, kind of because he had to. This is totally different.
For England's sake I hope you're right, as after a long period of CB being one of England's few strengths, it suddenly seems as though it will become a major weak link. After Terry and Ferdinand, you've got a group of average internationals (Cahill, Lescott, Dawson, Jagielka) and then very little.
I'm sure he is. I'm just trying to dampen Lightning's enthusiasm for a new signing, if he has any left.
Vivalaraza
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CLANK!
Just like a couple of years ago, this bit of play in the CS is going to be the best football we play all season.
Hope all the Manited fans enjoyed it.
He's gone to Cardiff, his England career is over.
Not even a joke. Just the sad sad truth.
Bubble Metropolis
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Did Arsenal sign anyone yet
He's looked pretty good, but maybe AVB thinks differently if he's been sold to Cardiff relatively cheap.
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/liverpool-fc/transfers/verein_31.html
+£4.600.000m at the moment. We better get spending.
KidA Seven
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Has Woodward sorted out that Januzaj contract yet?
Vivalaraza
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£9m? That's not cheap IMO.
Spurs have to balance their books somewhat, I doubt they wanted to sell him but it's a good chance to recoup a fair amount of money for a player who is most likely their 4th choice. Made sense for them and the player I think.
I thought it was 8m, but yeah, I mean relative to the price United paid for Jones and Smalling, it's a huge amount of money for Cardiff.
It's just weird when Spurs are currently struggling to have centre backs fit for the start of the season. They could have used him, I think.
Maybe he'll have a great season and Liverpool will sign him for 30m next summer.
Vivalaraza
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Fixed.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Sergio is great but he
Vidal combines all of their attributes + scores goals.
Lyon's president said that Yoann Gourcuff is prepared to take a pay cut to join us. Feel like we're linked with him in every window.
Don't think we'd have any need for him though.
Hasphat'sAnts
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And picks up yellow cards.
As opposed to losing all the others without him?
Vivalaraza
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He doesn't need to, he has the world 1st best and 3rd best players playing in front of him. Messi and Iniesta get the job done.
Isn't it Yurt?
KidA Seven
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Mr.Marston
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That's because we are. Don't ask me why.
Because Wenger wants Arsenal to be the best looking side in the prem.
No Forlan? Or was he cheap?Meh, I've put him in.
£150.2m
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