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Football Thread 2013/14 | OT3
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The_Hitcher89
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I am so excited
I'm a bit worried, especially if Agger doesn't start. Would have preferred to play Stoke a few games in, once we know how they've changed since last seaspon and how they've responded to Hughes.
If the Coutinho-Sturridge axis doesn't work, we're fucked
FootballFan
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Last time I watched him was in that Russian Cup Final when Anzhi played CSKA. He was skipping past players left and right, posted here during the game praising him. He's a winger I believe.
Bubble Metropolis
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Luis Gustavo on the Wolfsburg website.
Welp.
Welp.
Why welp? We already knew that's where he was going.
Suarez is by far the most painful to miss out on.
http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Club-news/2013/August/BT-Sport-partnership-announcement
We are bloody killing it this summer with the partnership and corporate deals. And the big ones are still to come...
With Arteta getting old and subsequently injured now , he'll get heaps of playing time . We don't really have a proper DM actually , if Song can play at the position all the time , why not Gustavo ?
Freewheelin'
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gutted to miss out on Gustavo, would have been perfect for us in a position that desperately needs strengthening.I predict Arsenal wont sign anyone else.
2013/14 Season Predictions - Part 2
As the infamous Denis Dyack once said: "Put up or shut up!"
Premier League
1. Manchester United*
2. Chelsea
3. Manchester City
4. Arsenal
5. Tottenham Hotspur
6. Liverpool
7. Swansea City
8. Everton
9. Newcastle United
10. Southampton
11. West Bromwich Albion
12. Cardiff
13. West Ham
14. Aston Villa
15. Fulham
16. Sunderland
17. Norwich
18. Stoke City
19. Hull
20. Crystal Palace
*I reserve the right to change that pick if signings do not happen
Juve, Dortmund, and Barca to win their leagues.
Just one day until the Premier League season kicks off and it's time to do the predictions. I quickly went through the thread and quoted the (legitimate?) predictions. Let me know if I missed any. I'll continue to update this post until kick off tomorrow.
As the infamous Denis Dyack once said: "Put up or shut up!"
Song was more a box to box midfiielder which is the position Wilshere/Ramsey will be playing. Arteta is the defensive midfielder. With Arteta injured Gustavo would get guaranteed game time but as soon as Arteta was fit again they would rotate like Gibbs/Monreal will rotate. Gustavo will get more game time staying in Germany.
Wenger would not have given Gustavo his guarantees to playing time and that's why we wouldn't have gotten him.
Predictions should only happen after the transfer window closes.
Bubble Metropolis
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It was probably brought up here when it was released, but I just got around to reading Wenger's sound bite from yesterday (Edit: It was actually today.) :
"I don’t disagree that we are a bit light at the moment. We are looking to strengthen our squad. We’re looking more for quality than for numbers. We would like two or three players, if possible more.”
Two or three players! It's August 16th! It's nice that he has at least admitted a need to fill out the squad, but it's rather late.
"I don’t disagree that we are a bit light at the moment. We are looking to strengthen our squad. We’re looking more for quality than for numbers. We would like two or three players, if possible more.”
Two or three players! It's August 16th! It's nice that he has at least admitted a need to fill out the squad, but it's rather late.
Milchmonster
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Yeah, right. Gustavo is going to Wolfsburg. He could play every single match and it wouldn't improve his chances to stay in the national team. Some great matches in the CL, even if he only plays half of the matches for Arsenal, and it would be better for him.
That's not a decision for the World Cup, it's a decision for money. Just like Felipe Santana joined Schlacke to improve his World Cup chances lol
kingellesar
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Same for Suarez/Rooney/Bernard/Cesar/Higuain/Rami/Anyplayerwhohasbeenlinked.
I just think Wenger has no clue in what areas he wants to spend and they are struggling to identify obtainable targets.
One day until the season starts and Arsenal have 1 signing, who was free, is young and nowhere near first team yet. I can understand the Moyes situation a little, he did only start in July but what exactly has Wenger been doing all summer? *queue posts of Wenger on a slide, wearing a lampshade etc.
*kingellesar
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Can anyone with some skills turn this Sandro into an avatar pretty please?
Same for Suarez/Rooney/Bernard/Cesar/Higuain/Rami/Anyplayerwhohasbeenlinked.
I just think Wenger has no clue in what areas he wants to spend and they are struggling to identify obtainable targets.
One day until the season starts and Arsenal have 1 signing, who was free, is young and nowhere near first team yet. I can understand the Moyes situation a little, he did only start in July but what exactly has Wenger been doing all summer? *queue posts of Wenger on a slide, wearing a lampshade etc.
Wenger and Moyes playing a game of chicken.
What a load of nonsense that post was.Same for Suarez/Rooney/Bernard/Cesar/Higuain/Rami/Anyplayerwhohasbeenlinked.
I just think Wenger has no clue in what areas he wants to spend and they are struggling to identify obtainable targets.
One day until the season starts and Arsenal have 1 signing, who was free, is young and nowhere near first team yet. I can understand the Moyes situation a little, he did only start in July but what exactly has Wenger been doing all summer? *queue posts of Wenger on a slide, wearing a lampshade etc.
When your shit club finishes above Arsene just once then you can talk shit but until then Spurs fans should be a little silent. Spurs fans have no grounds to tell Wenger whether he does or doesn't know what he's doing.
I'm always up for an opportunity to embarrass myself:
1. Chelsea
2. Man City
3. Man Utd
4. Spurs
5. Arsenal
6. Liverpool
7. Swansea
8. Southampton
9. Everton
10. West Ham
11. West Brom
12. Aston Villa
13. Newcastle
14. Norwich
15. Sunderland
16. Cardiff
17. Fulham
18. Stoke
19. Palace
20. Hull
League Cup: Spurs
FA Cup: Man City
Champions League: PSG
Europa League: Galatasaray
kingellesar
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So you would consider your transfer window a success then?
Everyone is allowed an opinion, regardless of team they support. You're being ignorant by claiming everytime a player rejects you that its all part of Wengers master plan and that they wouldn't get in your team anyway.
No the window isn't a success but it's naive to simply blame Wenger for everything when we don't know all the facts.
And I'm not saying "everytime" a player rejects us it's because of a masterplan. In the case of Gustavo though, he is not worth 7m salary imo and he wouldn't have gotten the guarantees he was seeking.
kingellesar
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Who else is to blame then? Wenger has said money is to spend but hasn't done so yet? As far as I know you don't have a sporting director? So surely Wenger is more involved in transfers than anyone else.
Is any player worthy of the salary they get these days though? Gustavo would have strengthened your midfield and given you cover. Arteta out for 6 weeks means he would've got plenty of games in to cement a place, add to the fact Wilshire can barely last a month without picking up an injury and then Wenger forcing him to play through an injury.
Wenger said:
Clubs acted early....so why did Wenger not do the same? You've known for a long time the areas you needed to get sorted. Just seems like a shambles of a window, no other way of putting it. Identifying Suarez as a transfer target has really fucked your window up.
That's a shame
There is no way that Arsenal will be willing to pay his wages.
Yeah, we are essentially gambling on our midfield and striker situation, which were our primary areas of concern last season. I suppose we will see later whether it was a good idea to bring in Van Ginkel instead of a more established player and whether Lukaku is ready to lead the line. We might still sign another striker, but even then it was a risk to put all our eggs into the Rooney basket and not secure a signing before the start of the season.
You're acting like the window has closed and our club will fall off a cliff. That may be many users dreams but it won't be reality. Players will come in and then we'll judge.
And paying over the odds in salaries has bad ramifications for the harmony of your squad and makes it harder to move players on. How would Wilshere feel? How about Cazorla? How about Theo? There are cases where you can go overboard with wages, Suarez/Fabregas/RVP like players but not Gustavo. Common sense is required not knee jerk reactions.
That's fair enough, and I agree with that completely, but I think the criticism stems from the fact that he's left it so late again. It just seems insane to me that you're going in to the first game of the season barely able to fill your bench. It leaves you in a vulnerable position when negotiating with clubs and players, too.
Is someone going to collect all the predictions?
My super awesome and great chart
1. Arsenal
2. Chelsea
3. Manchester United
4. Manchester City
5. Spurs
6. Liverpool
7. Swansea
8. Everton
9. Aston Villa
10. Newcastle
11. West Ham
12. Southampton
13. Fulham
14. Sunderland
15. Norwich
16. West Brom
17. Stoke
18. Hull
19. Cardiff
20. Crystal Palace
FA Cup: Manchester United
League Cup: Spurs
Champions League: Real Madrid
Europa League: Sevilla
Come at me brahhss
My super awesome and great chart
1. Arsenal
2. Chelsea
3. Manchester United
4. Manchester City
5. Spurs
6. Liverpool
7. Swansea
8. Everton
9. Aston Villa
10. Newcastle
11. West Ham
12. Southampton
13. Fulham
14. Sunderland
15. Norwich
16. West Brom
17. Stoke
18. Hull
19. Cardiff
20. Crystal Palace
FA Cup: Manchester United
League Cup: Spurs
Champions League: Real Madrid
Europa League: Sevilla
Come at me brahhss
Sleeplessnights
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PL:
1. Manchester United
2. Manchester City
3. Chelsea
4. Tottenham Hotspur
5. Arsenal
6. Liverpool
That's all my football knowledge allows me to guess.
For the record, I am in no way close.
1. Manchester United
2. Manchester City
3. Chelsea
4. Tottenham Hotspur
5. Arsenal
6. Liverpool
That's all my football knowledge allows me to guess.
For the record, I am in no way close.
Sleeplessnights
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Shatner's Bassoon
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I'd be happy if we could just keep a manager for 1 season.
kingellesar
Member
I'm not acting like that, I'm simply pointing out you're entering the first week of the season with no new faces other than a youngster who is a long way off first team material. As I said a few pages back when you thought gloating about Bale was better than anything, YOU could have been potential title challengers this season. Top 3 all had managerial changes, you were the form team finishing the season but now what? You failed to strengthen, the one window where you could've outspend us and put a distance between us and potentially challenge for the title once again but you have yet to strengthen the team, only weaken. (Well....I'm not sure losing Gervinho really counts as weakening but its one less squad player to rely on).
I'm pretty sure Theo is on a lot more than what Gustavo wanted?
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