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Football Thread 2013/14 |OT5| Levy to Woodward "You're nobody. Pass me the ball"

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doicare

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I'm quite sure the majority of people in this thread would be happy if you did just that.
Allowing people to continue with their delusions about Manchester United just so they can make themselves feel better? Nah, i'm doing a service to football by pointing out these fallacies.
 

Wes

venison crêpe
Yeah. Cant figure out why we need him. Except this is Lambert, therefore more attackers = better.

I assumed we would be after a creative midfielder type.

Backup to Benteke along with Helenius I guess. They might be worried someone will come in for CB in January. Or maybe they'll play Helenius behind one of them.
 

Scum

Junior Member
Well AVB loves his inverted wingers so it would surprise me if he kept Lamela there and put Lennon on the left.

Also not to sound like a fair weather fan but we really need to drop Townsend until he realises he's not Bale and he's not going to win the game by cutting onto his left and shooting every 5 minutes.

He can do the basics of wing play well enough so why doesn't he just do them? Maybe playing him on the left as well will mean he can't cut on his left foot and go for glory?
Hopefully he gets a few mins with the national team. That should bring back down to Earth. :p

Looks like West Brom are back to being a pretty shit team.
I've got them down to do pretty shitty this season. Unless they get Lukaku back tomorrow...
 

ShogunX

Member
Titus is probably the world's laziest lover

whereas you know that joe cole tries really hard

I can imagine Suarez is willing to do all kinds of funky shit. Probably ties three butter side down Jacobs crackers to his porn horn and has his wife enjoy a sophisticated evening.
 

Wilbur

Banned
Looks like West Brom are back to being a pretty shit team.

Missing Lukaku an awful lot. Could probably do with a better centre back as well alongside Olsson.

They've got some quality in there - Mulumbu and Yacob are a good pairing, I really rate Long, Vydra will be top - but they've stood still in the transfer market while everyone around them strengthened, so they'll struggle to recreate last year.
 

ShogunX

Member
Allowing people to continue with their delusions about Manchester United just so they can make themselves feel better? Nah, i'm doing a service to football by pointing out these fallacies.

heathledger1_616.jpg
 

Arnie

Member
Analysis was correct, United just weren't hungry or creative or alive.

Carcass team managed by living corpse.

Juxtaposed with that was the hungry, feverish, rampant reds led by our new and improved slimline tonic.

But here, Doicare, for those who struggle to comprehend words:

GLEN-JOHNSON.gif
 

Linius

Member
Analysis was correct, United just weren't hungry or creative or alive.

Carcass team managed by living corpse.

Juxtaposed with that was the hungry, feverish, rampant reds led by our new and improved slimline tonic.

But here, Doicare, for those who struggle to comprehend words:

GLEN-JOHNSON.gif

Domino day came early this year :D
 

Wilbur

Banned
Analysis was correct, United just weren't hungry or creative or alive.

Carcass team managed by living corpse.

Juxtaposed with that was the hungry, feverish, rampant reds led by our new and improved slimline tonic.

But here, Doicare, for those who struggle to comprehend words:

GLEN-JOHNSON.gif

should have been sent off, fucking animal. save that for the rugger field, glenn.
 

Salvadora

Member
I wonder how long Moyes' 100% non-win record against the top sides will continue before it becomes a cause for concern.

I wish we could play them now.
 

doicare

Member
Analysis was correct, United just weren't hungry or creative or alive.

Carcass team managed by living corpse.

Juxtaposed with that was the hungry, feverish, rampant reds led by our new and improved slimline tonic.

But here, Doicare, for those who struggle to comprehend words:

GLEN-JOHNSON.gif
A gif showing a Liverpool player fouling two United players, yes i agree, there where a lot of fouls in that game. Liverpool weren't hungry today (Luis Suarez wasn't playing, he's still full from last seasons Chelsea game), they were just lucky the way the ball fell in the box at both ends.
 

ShogunX

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A gif showing a Liverpool player fouling two United players, yes i agree, there where a lot of fouls in that game. Liverpool weren't hungry today (Luis Suarez wasn't playing, he's still full from last seasons Chelsea game), they were just lucky the way the ball fell in the box at both ends.

I like how you think this is some kind of deep analysis when it could be applied to nearly every single football match ever played.

I feel bad for saying it but John Motson needs to be fucked off pronto - '''Ohhhh and ohhhhh''
 
Carrick went down far too easily. Glen Johnson ran like a train though.

FUN FACT: If Liverpool ever win the league we (Pompey) get 1million from Liverpool as part of his transfer from a few years back.

We could really do with that 1MIL :(
 
I can't believe Arsenal actually spends money when we have to play them in the CL.

Actually, I really don't believe they'd spent 45m or something on Özil.
 

Ash_69

Member
I'll say it. Happy ozil might be going us but we don't need him. Cazorla is good tier in central attacking midfield. Should of spunked 50m on a striker.
 

doicare

Member
I like how you think this is some kind of deep analysis when it could be applied to nearly every single football match ever played.

I feel bad for saying it but John Motson needs to be fucked off pronto - '''Ohhhh and ohhhhh''
I already gave the deep analysis a few pages ago.
 

PaulLFC

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Lol sure like Liverpool had a say in United dominating possesion, they just 'let' United have the ball, okay. *Double Thumbs Up*
Compare the first half to the second, and there's your answer - we did, and you did nothing. The football genius himself didn't seem to have a plan B either, you were content to just pass, pass, pass, give the ball away, pass, pass, pass, give the ball away, pass, launch it out of play. You forgot something though - actually threatening to score, you know, that thing you have to do to win football matches. I had a feeling Moyes would start to implement his defensive tactics, but this quickly? Enjoy the possession, us meanwhile - we'll enjoy goals :)
 

Wilbur

Banned
Daniel Taylor going in HAM

It was the classic diversion tactic, once favoured by Sir Alex Ferguson and now gladly taken up by his successor in the Manchester United chair. "I could see why we were champions today," David Moyes said, fixing his eyes on his audience as if daring anyone to disagree. "I thought we played really well."

He acclaimed it as their outstanding performance so far of his brief reign, even better than putting four past Swansea on the opening weekend of the season. He described himself – several times, in fact – as "more than happy", so contented indeed he went on to say he would not be at all concerned if the club's deadline-day attempts to flesh out their squad came to nothing. "After that performance, I wouldn't be worried," he said. And, no, there was no sign of his fingers being crossed beneath the table.

Ferguson often did this after a bad performance to try to manipulate the headlines and project the sense there was nothing wrong other than sheer misfortune or injustice. Moyes, unfortunately for him, does not have the same force of personality. Not yet, anyway. "I thought we were really good today," he continued. Nobody was taken in.

His team had lost because for long spells they reminded us why they are scrabbling around trying to bring in a couple of central midfielders and how perplexing it is they have left it so late when this has been their priority in the transfer market for years rather than months.

Brendan Rodgers flashed those brand-new teeth, accompanied with a snort of happy incredulity, when he was asked whether Liverpool could reassess their targets, on the back of their best start to a season since 1994, and actually try to win the title. His laughter recognised the knee-jerk element to the question but he did point out that since the last time these sides met in January, they had both played 19 times in the league – and Liverpool were two points better off.

They were quicker to the ball, stronger in the challenge. More than anything, they seemed to have a superior understanding of this fixture, especially in the opening 45 minutes, and of how to balance all the energy and drive and togetherness that accompanies these occasions with a sense of control.

Moyes would have been perfectly entitled if he had come out and mentioned the improvement of his team in the second half, when Liverpool started defending too deeply. Yet, however he dressed it up, a team cannot be this sloppy and expect to get away with it. Even in that period of late pressure, with the home crowd increasingly agitated, United did not have enough wit or know-how to take advantage. Nani applied a seven iron, when a pitching wedge was needed, and a free-kick in a promising area went out for a throw-in.

Rio Ferdinand and David de Gea tried to play a one-two and the ball finished out of play again. This was not, as Moyes tried to claim, a team that "played very well".

For a good proportion of the match, United were vapid, strangely inhibited, unable to get any real momentum and it has become something of a recurring theme in their visits to Anfield over recent seasons. They have now lost six of their last seven visits and, in just about every one of those matches, United have demonstrated similar flaws.

The longer it goes on, the greater the sense there are players from Old Trafford who do not fully appreciate the United-Liverpool rivalry and what it takes to beat a side that will give everything, as the team from Anfield invariably do.

Ryan Giggs did at least show for the ball. The problem for United was that he did not treat it with enough care. Patrice Evra played with distinction but, all around him, colleagues were making elementary mistakes. Nemanja Vidic under-hit a back-pass and was grateful De Gea beat Glen Johnson to the ball. Michael Carrick passed the ball straight to Daniel Sturridge at one point and Ashley Young should be far too streetwise to make the mistake that led to the corner for Liverpool's goal. Young is now in his third season as a United player and, to put it bluntly, they need an upgrade.

Maybe United would have made a better fist of it if Wayne Rooney's forehead had not been split open by the outstretched boot of Phil Jones in training the previous day. That, however, ignores Rooney's history of rarely playing well at Anfield. The more pertinent issue, perhaps, is why Moyes could not even find a place on the bench for Shinji Kagawa when, above everything else, the team needed someone with the guile and creativity to play the killer pass.

As it was, Moyes talked about a bad defeat in the way a manager usually addresses a fine win. Ferguson would do this and, like a conjuror, the deception would be complete. Yet the bottom line, as Liverpool made it three 1-0 wins in a row, is that there was nothing unjust about the first defeat of Moyes's time in charge.

He, one suspects, will be more aware of that than he wants to admit.

Agree with everything he said, but I don't think he gave Vidic enough cred
 

Linius

Member
I'm a bit confused now, is this guy legit or is this an account set up like all those fake ITK accounts to make jokes? I'm confused :lol
 

doicare

Member
Compare the first half to the second, and there's your answer - we did, and you did nothing. The football genius himself didn't seem to have a plan B either, you were content to just pass, pass, pass, give the ball away, pass, pass, pass, give the ball away, pass, launch it out of play. You forgot something though - actually threatening to score, you know, that thing you have to do to win football matches. I had a feeling Moyes would start to implement his defensive tactics, but this quickly? Enjoy the possession, us meanwhile - we'll enjoy goals :)
Haha nope, Liverpool scored a lucky early goal and then tried their best to score a second. They failed and then didn't 'drop off' because they wanted to, United outplayed them and they had no choice. Liverpool barely created anything worth while all game long and the funniest thing of all is whilst you criticise United for now being a 'defensive team' United have scored more goals than Liverpool have this season lol.
 

Arnie

Member
From Daniel Taylor's piece on how poor United were:

Guardian said:
Brendan Rodgers flashed those brand-new teeth, accompanied with a snort of happy incredulity, when he was asked whether Liverpool could reassess their targets, on the back of their best start to a season since 1994, and actually try to win the title. His laughter recognised the knee-jerk element to the question but he did point out that since the last time these sides met in January, they had both played 19 times in the league – and Liverpool were two points better off.

For Doicare:

more fachts said:
They were quicker to the ball, stronger in the challenge. More than anything, they seemed to have a superior understanding of this fixture, especially in the opening 45 minutes, and of how to balance all the energy and drive and togetherness that accompanies these occasions with a sense of control.
 

PaulLFC

Member
Haha nope, Liverpool scored a lucky early goal and then tried their best to score a second. They failed and then didn't 'drop off' because they wanted to, United outplayed them and they had no choice. Liverpool barely created anything worth while all game long and the funniest thing of all is whilst you criticise United for now being a 'defensive team' United have scored more goals than Liverpool have this season lol.
Ah I guess you have to find humour somewhere after losing without looking remotely likely to get anything out of the game :)
 

Arnie

Member
Chapter three said:
Yet the bottom line, as Liverpool made it three 1-0 wins in a row, is that there was nothing unjust about the first defeat of Moyes's time in charge.

He, one suspects, will be more aware of that than he wants to admit.

See, Doicare, you've got less nous than a slug.
 

ringwaldhaze

Neo Member
If we end up paying over 40 million for Ozil someone should give Wenger a hard slap.

Eden Hazard, Mario Gotze, Asier Illarramendi, Javi Martinez all went for around the €40m mark, and Mesut Ozil is arguably more established than all of those.

I think Arsenal have paid €10m or so over the odds, but I'm not really surprised about the price.
 
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