So we're down to Carrick, Cleverley and Anderson. Hardly inspiring is it?
On the plus side this could nudge Moyes in the right direction come January.
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Football Thread 2013/14 |OT7| The Ramsey Effect
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So we're down to Carrick, Cleverley and Anderson. Hardly inspiring is it?
On the plus side this could nudge Moyes in the right direction come January.
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I'll ask Fady for more later.
You met a lebanese Juventina? Time to tie the knot son.
Let me know if you ever need help with Arabic words!
Haha, true! I try to enjoy every win as much as possible. Every win is precious bro!
This is just silly. I've played Mario and now Zelda in the time it's took to patch. Still not done. 94%
Liverpool chucked a hefty wage at Dani Pacheco when he looked the business at a similar age; It obviously didn't work out and most would say its just a gamble you should take, after all its still a small amount of money relative to the total budget, the massive contracts and what not.
However, by offering Pacheco such a large wage, basically because of youth performances and a few impressive cameos, Liverpool set a new standard for what other youth players should expect. When it came time to try and renew Tom Ince's contract he wanted a similar amount, but by the time the owners weren't nearly prepared to offer such a large contract to a youth player. So he went elsewhere (though there were probably reasons other than money given that Blackpool offer pretty tiny wages). Thus Liverpool missed out on a talented winger and potentially ~£10mil down the road because of the excessive contract.
All of the United fans, looking at Adnan, will only be able to think of one player, Paul Pogba. All of their thinking will be of a £30million player missed out on and the determination to avoid making a similar mistake. The example of Pogba is a hugely salient example and impossible to ignore for your average human.
But in fact the base rate of success for youngsters is going to be absolutely tiny. The number of youth players, even the best ones, that hit Pogba's level is probably in the single digits percent wise, indeed I would be surprised if 1 out of every 100 achieved such success. Even just looking at good squad players you're probably still dealing with a tiny percentage.
It is this base rate which should inform Utd's decision making. The chances of Januzai achieving the high level expected of Utd remain very small with such a small sample of first team play to go on, thus it would be an irrational decision to heavily break their structure for such a poor bet.
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Seems like everyone is getting an email from Amazon to upgrade to one of their PS4 bundles. Haven't got mine yet 
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((In all honesty he was not feeling well at all yesterday but AVB supposedly insisted on him playing. So they say.
Oh, I know.
I feel for you bro - I really do. Though Eurosport is reporting that Poyet is expected to be named the boss for the team within the next 24 hours. The good news is the international break can help the manager settle in and get some extra time to prepare.
I also thought your first win should have been against Manchester United, easily. The misses were to be rued, and Chelsea almost suffered the same fate against Norwich yesterday. We just keep on missing glorious chances. We even did so against the mighty Bayern Munich.
Sounds more believable. Moyes should confirm it very shortly (today).
Yeah, we should have been 2 up and even could have been 3 up at half time. As 'poor' as Man United have been this season they aren't going to let you off the hook twice, not when they're about to lose 3 games in a row.
Completely agree, do not see the point in it. Also I do not like his style of play at all, it is too similar to Swansea under Rodgers. Short passes at all costs.
John O'Shea will have an aneurysm.
Poyet turned Brighton from a struggling L1 side into promotion hopeful's, he is a good manager. Not sure he has the right set of players for his system at sunderland though.
Can see him going for Bridcutt in Jan, and maybe Buckley as well. Both deserve a shot at the PL.
He does have a hot streak too, but after nutjob Di Canio anybody will seem like a welcome break.
I think he needs time and a few transfer windows to make his mark if he does go there, which I am not sure he will get. Good manager, not the right time or club.
Mick Mccarthy or Mcclaren (before he went to Derby) would have been better choices. There isn't a great wealth of good managers out there. Stuart Mccall should come to the PL, cos I love him so much but he won't.
Can see him going for Bridcutt in Jan, and maybe Buckley as well. Both deserve a shot at the PL.
He does have a hot streak too, but after nutjob Di Canio anybody will seem like a welcome break.
I think he needs time and a few transfer windows to make his mark if he does go there, which I am not sure he will get. Good manager, not the right time or club.
Mick Mccarthy or Mcclaren (before he went to Derby) would have been better choices. There isn't a great wealth of good managers out there. Stuart Mccall should come to the PL, cos I love him so much but he won't.
Just what Tottenham need. Another midfielder.
What has he said?
Denying that he's a smoker. Said it was a prank played on him by his teammates.
How exactly they can prank him into putting a cigarette into his mouth and lighting it I do not know.
Well we played 3 yesterday but only one turned up
It was one match. You're still going to win the league. You should ditch EL though.
Wasn't that like, 3+ days ago?
Vertonghen and Paulinho didn't even travel to Russia and they were the two worst players. It was complacency pure and simple, same as United v West Brom.
Freewheelin'
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Off to see Prisoners soon. Been looking forward to this for a while.
Yep. Then kept denying he was a smoker until today when he admitted it.
Should have just admitted it from the beginning. Now he's made a tit of himself. He needs a better PR man.
It's boss.
Exactly. I understand this situation well because Chelsea are excellent at missing good chances. Let's see how Poyet will influence the team.
As WJD said:
Great film. Enjoy!
He admitted he was a smoker today? That lad needs to get his head screwed on. No one should smoke, especially professional athletes.
Drop him to the bench and fine him please, Arsene.
I wouldn't have minded McLaren tbh.
I don't think Poyet is a bad choice just don't see the point in swapping him for Di Canio.
Also McCarthy is a poor PL manager. Knows how to get out of the Championship, though.
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Sleeplessnights
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Stop talking sense.
KidA Seven
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This is true. That is why managers must know how to assess the youth players correctly.
The rest of the youth players can fuck off. None are as talented as Januzaj. Januzaj is currently the highest paid youth player as it is. Fergie knew how good he was. If youth players want the money Januzaj will get, they should prove themselves on the pitch. Januzaj is the standout performer every game for the reserves despite being the youngest. He has looked the best since he first made the step up to the u21s.
In the reserves, these are the things you have to look at to determine who will make it.
1. Age
2. Technique
3. Another great attribute like vision, finishing, dribbling, etc...
4. Physical maturity - Bigger players look better in the u21s and it's an advantage they won't have in the first team. If that's what is why they are dominant, you raise doubts.
5. The most important quality, consistency
A lot of fans overrate players because of a brilliant performance, but ignore the games where they don't shine. They also overrate players over how good they look, but fail to take into account their physical stature compared to the other players. They also like to overrate players based on goals. Goal scorers are a little harder to gauge how good they are because of the quality of defending they go up against. Fans also tend to ignore the rest of the game, but the goal. The goal is the highlight reel so it can be blinding for some. This is why I don't rate Lingard as much as Januzaj. He scores more than Januzaj and muppets on redcafe start thinking Lingard is a future world beater. His general play is inconsistent. Finally, fans tend to not realize how much of a step up first team football is. If you can't stand out game after game, there's no reason to believe a player is above that level.
If the manager looks at these types of things and feels the player deserves that contract he shouldn't be questioned. The problem arises when a manager doesn't assess a player correctly and hands out that contract You'll then have a problem because those feats are dime a dozen and the rest of the reserve players will feel they deserve that contract.
I also think it's unfair to be tighter on wages with a youth player compared to a player bought. Ronaldo, Rooney, etc... were on big wages as 18 year olds. Exceptional youth players shouldn't be punished because they were bought at age 16 or so. Zaha is on 35k a week. Januzaj should get more than him as he's more talented.
Yep. Pisses me off that he feels he has to be Suarez official spokesperson.
Wasn't he already told to shut the fuck up about this earlier in the summer?
Broder Salsa
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"We want to focus on the youth"
*spends all their money on old players who has played about 20 matches te last 5 years*
Broder Salsa
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You could also have used like a clock or a stop watch, both incredible things that doesn't cost 250 pounds.
Shatner's Bassoon
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Yeah, yeah but what is more fun. A stop watch or a Wii U?
Broder Salsa
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Freewheelin'
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looking at paint dry on a wall is more fun than a Wii U.
Shatner's Bassoon
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But a Wii U has Wind Waker. How else could you play Wind Waker until now? It also has whatever dud Platinum Games keep making.
That's not Melberg
That fucking cat massage video from reddit is KILLING ME
WHISKER WATCH ALERT IN EFFECT
When she starts stroking his tail near the end and the cat picks his head up and looks into the camera omg
WHISKER WATCH ALERT IN EFFECT
When she starts stroking his tail near the end and the cat picks his head up and looks into the camera omg
Broder Salsa
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Over 100 matches the last 4 years, for decent teams even, how I will never know.
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