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[jtb]

There is an answer to that and we saw it last season: 4-4-2.

Wenger even mentioned it in relation to Sanchez.

I totally agree. I've been dreaming of a 4-4-2 with Theo and a target man (Giroud?) playing up front for years. But our midfield would be even more overrun than usual by the top teams. We'll see.

Wenger only played 4-4-2 as a panic button of sorts against the minnows and is suicidal against a Chelsea. We already win against the lower teams pretty handily, not sure 4-4-2 would solve our problems that much. but it would give Giroud more of a role.

 

[Scum]

lol

:-(

 

[Salvadora]

I totally agree. I've been dreaming of a 4-4-2 with Theo and a target man (Giroud?) playing up front for years. But our midfield would be even more overrun than usual by the top teams. We'll see.

I'd need to go back and watch the horrifying defeats, because I've purged them from my memory, but individual mistakes and tactical naivety on the part of Wenger played a large part in them.

It's not as simple as chucking Arteta out of the team for the big games like some people suggest.

 

[Barzul]

I'd need to go back and watch the horrifying defeats, because I've purged them from my memory, but individual mistakes and tactical naivety on the part of Wenger played a large part in them.

It's not as simple as chucking Arteta out of the team for the big games like some people suggest.

It mostly stemmed from how our fullbacks were deployed in those games but Arteta's lack of recovery speed didn't help either. Throw in some individual errors and we were made to pay badly.

 

[manual4]

With every news conference he seems a little more skeptical about our team

By the end of the tour I fully expect him to either leave or demand reinforcements

can you blame him though?

man c have strong first 11 and a bench better than the united starting 11.

arsenal started to build last year with ozil, now they have Sanchez , debuchy, improved bench and possibly khedira.

Chelsea dumped the old baggage and bought spice from Spain.

Liverpool...., eh they have a competent team atleast.

 

[wedward]

Jimmy Chilides @Jimmy_Chilides · 55m
Wenger has had discussions with as many as 6 targets recently, he wants to bring in 2 more players by the end of the transfer window 1/3

This is where it gets interesting gooners, ONE player wenger wants to announce as soon as THIS weekend, the 2nd in the next coming weeks 2/3

Also one of the players he is working I have been told is of the same calibre and stature of Mesut Ozil, will be a big name signing 3/3

Haverstock AFC @ArsenalSince86 · 33m
I'm very optimistic now. Window has been good to us. About to be a whole lot better.

I was quiet over Debuchy and Sanchez which I was told about in advance as a few on here can testify. This is new. Exciting if we close it.

I swear, every Arsenal fan in North London is a ITK.

 

[jtb]

I'd need to go back and watch the horrifying defeats, because I've purged them from my memory, but individual mistakes and tactical naivety on the part of Wenger played a large part in them.

It's not as simple as chucking Arteta out of the team for the big games like some people suggest.

It mostly stemmed from how our fullbacks were deployed in those games but Arteta's lack of recovery speed didn't help either. Throw in some individual errors and we were made to pay badly.

well, tactical naiveté includes playing a paper thin midfield and telling your full backs to bomb forward and leave said midfield even more exposed. taking a precious body out of that midfield three would leave our already weak-ish players outmuscled and outnumbered. unless you're playing on the counter with two banks of four (which is anathema to Wenger, I'm sure), I don't like our odds with those tactics.

Arteta doesn't need to be discarded, he needs to be replaced with someone that's a significant improvement. It's like Song. Obviously, Alex Song was a terrible terrible DM. but even a shit Song was better than having literally nobody to protect the back four.

 

[Broder Salsa]

This guy I used to know growing up, totally looks like a younger Salazar now

 

[Mr Cola]

can you blame him though?

man c have strong first 11 and a bench better than the united starting 11.

arsenal started to build last year with ozil, now they have Sanchez , debuchy, improved bench and possibly khedira.

Chelsea dumped the old baggage and bought spice from Spain.

Liverpool...., eh they have a competent team atleast.

Course I dont blame him, I just wish it didnt take another two weeks to get the ball rolling. Every United fan knows we are top heavy as fuck.

 

[Tc91]

Manchester United ‏@ManUtd 43s
#mufc team v Inter: Lindegaard; Smalling, Jones, Evans; Valencia, Fletcher, Herrera, Young; Mata; Rooney, Welbeck.

 

[manual4]

Course I dont blame him, I just wish it didnt take another two weeks to get the ball rolling. Every United fan knows we are top heavy as fuck.

probably should forget vidal then and focus on someone that would actually be active in a move to your club

 

[Mr Cola]

Manchester United ‏@ManUtd 43s
#mufc team v Inter: Lindegaard; Smalling, Jones, Evans; Valencia, Fletcher, Herrera, Young; Mata; Rooney, Welbeck.

Shaw :s

I wonder

Young

I worry

 

[3Sixty]

Manchester United ‏@ManUtd 43s
#mufc team v Inter: Lindegaard; Smalling, Jones, Evans; Valencia, Fletcher, Herrera, Young; Mata; Rooney, Welbeck.

Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

Imagine any of those players starting over you at LB.

Shaw you fat cunt.

 

[Salvadora]

Shaw must be really unfit if he can't even start in pre-season.

 

[Mr Cola]

Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

Imagine any of those players starting over you at LB.

Shaw you fat cunt.

Second game in a row, he had a teenager last game, granted though he did score twice v Galaxy. I dunno, maybe there is nothing ot this, but it would be hilarious if one of our two signings was already out of favour.

 

[manual4]

Manchester United ‏@ManUtd 43s
#mufc team v Inter: Lindegaard; Smalling, Jones, Evans; Valencia, Fletcher, Herrera, Young; Mata; Rooney, Welbeck.

yikes that defence....

 

[3Sixty]

Second game in a row, he had a teenager last game, granted though he did score twice v Galaxy. I dunno, maybe there is nothing ot this, but it would be hilarious if one of our two signings was already out of favour.

Shaw was obviously not a LVG signing. Just imagine if he doesn't rate him. £30m lool

I will lose my mind if Reece James starts first game of the season.

It will make it all worth it.

 

[FortuneFaded]

Tevez's father has been released: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-28547381. A ransom of £30,000 apparently.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Shaw was obviously not a LVG signing. Just imagine if he doesn't rate him. £30m lool

I will lose my mind if Reece James starts first game of the season.

It will make it all worth it.

He said he's unfit, he didn't say he was shit.

 

[omgkitty]

Jimmy Chilides @Jimmy_Chilides · 55m
Wenger has had discussions with as many as 6 targets recently, he wants to bring in 2 more players by the end of the transfer window 1/3

This is where it gets interesting gooners, ONE player wenger wants to announce as soon as THIS weekend, the 2nd in the next coming weeks 2/3

Also one of the players he is working I have been told is of the same calibre and stature of Mesut Ozil, will be a big name signing 3/3

Haverstock AFC @ArsenalSince86 · 33m
I'm very optimistic now. Window has been good to us. About to be a whole lot better.

I was quiet over Debuchy and Sanchez which I was told about in advance as a few on here can testify. This is new. Exciting if we close it.

I swear, every Arsenal fan in North London is a ITK.

GOD DAMNIT DONT FUCK WITH ME WEDWARD

 

[Mr Cola]

So Zaha up front, that should be interesting, genuinely didnt know he could shoot.

 

[manual4]

i have a feeling alot of these southampton players that left for big clubs will flop

 

[Salvadora]

He said he's unfit, he didn't say he was shit.

Could be wrong, but he's not particularly suited to LWB which is what LVG wants to play with, isn't it?

 

[bud]

He said he's unfit, he didn't say he was shit.

so angry.

what if he doesn't rate him once he's fit, though?

please calm down before answering my question. i don't want any trouble.

 

[bobito]

Why does José hate lukaku?

 

[3Sixty]

He said he's unfit, he didn't say he was shit.

But please.

Just imagine it.

 

[wedward]

GOD DAMNIT DONT FUCK WITH ME WEDWARD

Wenger is gunna drop the BOMBA.

Get ready.

 

[Broder Salsa]

He said he's unfit, he didn't say he was shit.

Could be both.

Why does José hate lukaku?

Cause Lukaku is a bitch.

 

[Jarnet87]

With every news conference he seems a little more skeptical about our team

By the end of the tour I fully expect him to either leave or demand reinforcements

Every day that he has to witness players like Cleverlols and the one footed man practicing is worse then the day before it. Every new day is the worst day of his life. Cleverly.

 

[Salvadora]

Why does José hate lukaku?

He doesn't hate Lukaku, he hates young players.

And Lukaku is an extremely talented young player which makes him even more angry.

 

[Clegg]

LvG says to expect nothing for three months.

Softening the blow. Value. Good squad. Happy with what I have.

Dhsudbxiwnaodmamxjwashxudm

 

[jtb]

if Mourinho truly doesn't rate Lukaku, let's buy him right now. He's a bargain.

 

[Mr Cola]

I look forward to Moyes inevitable book which will reveal who he had lined up for this summer, genuinely interested to see who we "could" have had. All bullshit mind, lining a player up and actually signing him are far apart.

 

[omgkitty]

Wenger is gunna drop the BOMBA.

Get ready.

Seriously find it crazy if we sign someone the caliber of Ozil. I think we'd all have different opinions on this, but I see Ozil caliber as someone like Cavani, Reus, or Pogba. The players we've been linked with so far - Costa, Willy, Khedira, Bender etc - are not Ozil level. No matter what footygaf says, Ozil is one of the best players in the world.

 

[Perfect Blue]

He doesn't hate Lukaku, he hates young players.

And Lukaku is an extremely talented young player which makes him even more angry.

lol angry? w0t

If he thought Lukaku was good enough, Jose would play him. How do you explain his affinity towards someone like Varane?

 

[Danchi]

if Mourinho truly doesn't rate Lukaku, let's buy him right now. He's a bargain.

They wouldn't even lend Arsenal Demba Ba.

 

[Jarnet87]

LvG says to expect nothing for three months.

Softening the blow. Value. Good squad. Happy with what I have.

Dhsudbxiwnaodmamxjwashxudm

Lewis the warchest is open. Please don't do this to yourself, we know you are a prideful man. We need help.

 

[Salvadora]

lol angry? w0t

If he thought Lukaku was good enough, Jose would play him. How do you explain his affinity towards someone like Varane?

Yes, angry.

Like Laboured/Arnie/Yurt anger.

Varane is an old soul and an exception to the rule.

 

[jtb]

I look forward to Moyes inevitable book which will reveal who he had lined up for this summer, genuinely interested to see who we "could" have had. All bullshit mind, lining a player up and actually signing him are far apart.

does he actually plan on getting a job again? or does he have one of those Chelsea compensation deal things where he can't manage again for another year or so

They wouldn't loan Demba Ba.

We'll see. I don't necessarily believe Jose's posturing on that. Wenger didn't want to pay for Ba, I suspect. Chelsea have shown repeatedly they'll do business at the right price, business where both parties usually win tbh

 

[subtles]

wedward, please.

You already had a fantastic window.

Call wenger off. I beg of you.

 

[Clegg]

I look forward to Moyes inevitable book which will reveal who he had lined up for this summer, genuinely interested to see who we "could" have had. All bullshit mind, lining a player up and actually signing him are far apart.

We had Thiago, I think.

Moyes didn't fancy him.

 

[Broder Salsa]

He doesn't hate Lukaku, he hates young players.

And Lukaku is an extremely talented young player which makes him even more angry.

It must have been all that anger that made him let a 25/26 year old Mata go, and use a 21 year old Oscar to push him out of the team.

or wait, that was his hate for Spanish people after leaving Madrid that made him do that.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Could be wrong, but he's not particularly suited to LWB which is what LVG wants to play with, isn't it?

Yes.

so angry.

what if he doesn't rate him once he's fit, though?

please calm down before answering my question. i don't want any trouble.

No you've taken this too far. I'm leaving after the World Cup.

 

[Clegg]

In slightly more encouraging news, Di Marzio says Napoli are def in contact with Fellaini.

 

[3Sixty]

Fraser Forster and Marcos Rojo according to the Telegraph.

 

[Perfect Blue]

Yes, angry.

Like Laboured/Arnie/Yurt anger.

Varane is an old soul and an exception to the rule.

I guess we should chalk up Zouma as an exception too, just because. Only reason a club like Liverpool plays youth is because they have no one else.

 

[Mr Cola]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/29/louis-van-gaal-manchester-united-q-and-a?CMP=twt_gu

Gaal seems to despise the interviewer

 

[Salvadora]

It must have been all that anger that made him let a 25/26 year old Mata go, and use a 21 year old Oscar to push him out of the team.

or wait, that was his hate for Spanish people after leaving Madrid that made him do that.

Mata was the result of xenophobia towards the Spanish people.

Mata died so Oscar could live.

 

[Broder Salsa]

Mata was the result of xenophobia towards the Spanish people.

Mata died so Oscar could live.

Rapey Dave however was not Spanish enough, he had a Polish grandma or something, so he was allowed to stay.

 

[jtb]

wedward, please.

You already had a fantastic window.

Call wenger off. I beg of you.

It's been a competent window so far, nothing more.

one very good signing: Sanchez.

the rest are all just replacements for players we lost. and in case of Debuchy/Chambers, in immediate future, they're actually downgrades. but I won't hold it against Chambers. just Debuchy.