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Football Thread 2014/15 |OT5| Place for normal, legit banter
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I think Souness is probably the worst.
The_Hitcher89
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Souness perhaps did the most damage and was in charge for our biggest dip, but Hodgson had us on track to finish like 14th
Broder Salsa
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You know it!
Do you tell people it's your son, if they ask?
The recovery has been quick from Hodgson though. We've literally never recovered from Souness.
Nobody thinks he's responsible for all of our problems
Just the vast majority of them
Well that's complete and utter fucking rubbish
It's the FA itself, the distribution of funding and the PL you want to be throwing your uninformed bile at, not an ageing manager who is a little out his depth but not deserving of the venom idiots chuck at him.
Rodgers would probably be the best fit. If not Rodgers I'd hire an attacking minded foreigner, doesn't matter if they are European or South American. Has to be someone who has no ties to the Premier League.
Fabulous boyfriend.
The players he does have all play far, far better for their club teams. There is also huge selection issues, with players being forced into positions that they don't play in. He should be doing a lot better, even with what he's got.
I don't see them getting a foreign manager anytime soon. The only candidates they would probably be interested in hiring would be, Mourinho or Pep. I am more than certain neither of them would accept the job (Mourinho is meant to have turned down the job already).
That's been the case with England for years though. The difference I see with this team is that at least possession wise, we're passing the ball around better than we have done for years.
The_Hitcher89
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What's his age got to do with it? He's a twat who'd throw his wife under a bus to escape legitimate criticism.
I'm well aware of the myriad of massive issues holding English football and the national team back, and Hodgson is responsible for nearly none of them. Ultimately though, in my opinion Hodgson himself is one of the issues, and his outlook on the game hamstrings the national team as it is.
There's a problematic group of players he has to choose from, and he manages them problematically.
No, sorry mate. He is demonstrably worse. Look at his results. Then again look at his results in the context of the calk walk qualifying groups we have been given. He cannot be defended.
As for the shit he has not been given, he has had a free ride mainly because he is such a polite old gent. Which he is. But he has done a terrible job managing England.
Hodgson was a good appointment for a week, and that was because it was a poke in the eye to Harry & his media cronies. It was hilarious to see him not get the job.
But that joke is played out now. Time for Roy to go.
Cast your mind back to our embarrassing qualification games, we were awful then as well. For a few minutes during the Uruguay game, then sure, he looked like maybe we wanted to play. That does not make up for Hodgsons awful, awful track record. I hardly think Hodgsons sparkling style of play makes up for his results.
FortuneFaded
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You're too young to remember Euro 96. We deserved to win that tournament.
When was the last time England failed to win a game at a WC?
They have never been great, but they haven't been worse in recent memory.
brokenbeans
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This process has been ongoing since the 90's.
Plus Conte already did it.
When you say, "used to be" how far back are we talking exactly?
LOL!
The teams Sven had were world class squads; They just never delivered.
FortuneFaded
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We were much better in Brazil group stage then South Africa group stage.
Oh come on. Sven's England was horrendous to watch. Mcclaren we didn't even qualify! And as for the 0-0 against Algeria
Yeah on paper Hedgehog results have been poor. Who is saying otherwise. But demonstrably worse? You lot must have been remembering the past decade or so way different from me because we have been fucking dire.
I can cast my mind back to Beckham's free kick which saved us from going out in the qualifying stages for the World Cup. An absolutely abysmal performance that we needed to get something from and nearly didn't.
The way I see it, at least this World Cup England weren't fucking hoofing the ball up the field the whole match. To me that is progress..
I get what you are saying, but England have had decent squads recently.Most of the players in the squad tonight have very little if any international experience.
england is the national team equivalent of a small club. just accept your fate and position in the world pecking order, it will make international tournaments much more enjoyable.
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I am referring to progression in tournaments. You might have played terrible, but at least you got out of the group.
Which scenario would you prefer, 2014 WC or 2010 WC?
A lot of England and anti-Englanders just fails to realize that for their size/gdp/talent pool they've already punched way above their weight in international competition since the beginning of things. It's a small country m7
In tournament standings, you weren't. Performance wise, probably so.
To be honest, I couldn't stand watching England in the previous World Cup. I have no idea how they managed to get as far as they did.
I've always been of the view that I would rather see a team play well and lose, than play awful and win. That's not to say they were spectacular in this World Cup, but they were better to watch than in previous World Cups.
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you people disgust me
I have no idea who Hodgson is seen as some new nadir of English football. I'd take playing better football than limping on another round in a tournament
McClaren didn;t even qualify yet Hodgson is demonstrably worse? Please
Totally agreed.
32 teams qualify for the world cup. in the 15-20 range, you're probably not qualifying for the knockout stages.
small club.
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