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Football Thread 2015/16 |OT| The Great American Sport
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Pls. A championship win at Allianz Arena is what we deserve. Especially against Gladbach
bonesmccoy
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Sakho
Milchmonster
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Pulisic is the new GOAT
Pls. A championship win at Allianz Arena is what we deserve. Especially against Gladbach
if we draw today and win, next week, is that enough?
GoldenCrow
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I was thinking the exact same thing. Zidane needs to do something so he changes his coat.
Rubbish King
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Pretty good, oh Rafa.. lol
slightconfuse
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Hazard finally
- We did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRio62uy4v0
Jupp said it himself that Hoeness wanted this and he surpassed it. That was the key. We had possession and passing precentages like Barca already in 2011-13. The whole counter pressing was already there, as well as the full backs outrunning the wingers for crosses. Pep made it even more versatile, but the whole concept with space, positioning and how the two lines (defence and midfield) vary and move are extremely similar - the defensive midfielder going between the two center backs and building up play with long balls to get it to the last third like Busquets was doing it, was done by Schweinsteiger. You could witness this in the final against BVB in Wembley. The only difference is that 60% of the goals we scored under Heynckes came from the wings, while Barca scored 50% from the middle. "The false 9" if you like to call it that way. I know it's tough to understand it at a tactical level, but Heynckes adapted Peps style nearly 1 to 1, with the exception that Robben and Ribery where obviously better wingers than Henry, Pedro or Sanchez and Gomez, Mandzukic and Müller are no Messi. It worked. We won because of the things Pep and Barca did, and Germany won WC as well because of it.
- That kind of play you describe is reactive to heavy possession where the team tries to overplay the midfield and reach the oppositions box in less than 7 seconds with max. 3 touches. That "bus parking" worked for Klopp and for Chelsea against us and Barcelona. Bundesliga doesn't even do this anymore, they all play 5-4-1 against Bayern and hope to lose not that high. They started to that with Dortmund too. The funny thing is, that when they play the other clubs they simply lack the quality to create and make the game. There is no balance between defence and attack, and no constant results. A lack of tactical versatility.
- Agree with the "we sell our best to make profit" mentality and to save wages of course, but I said it earlier already. Same goes for miss-manangement.
- And yeah, our structure of investment and that many clubs are no economically worthy products are problems and I don't think money for TV rights alone could solve. It's no coincidence that clubs managed by suits are in the end more profitable and successfull.
Bundesliga as a whole is more or less as weak as Ligue 1, the coefficent someone mentioned earlier is tricky because it only counts 5 years. My points still stand:
- Lack of good german coaches (Only Klopp, Tuchel and maybe Weinzierl are top class - for some Löw too), missmanagement, wrong approach with how to grow and handle the squad, lack of quality in the depth of many teams that is brutally shown when they have to play internationally.
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Vidal!!!
Imagine we would still play with Schweinsteiger :/
Milchmonster
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Bayern GAF hyped Schweinsteiger too much.
those erfolgsfans i tell ya
Rubbish King
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Hahahaha Townsend
Newcastle deserved that beast mode attack of that joke of a dive from Sturridge.
Newcastle deserved that beast mode attack of that joke of a dive from Sturridge.
Phoenix Fang
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Mignolet again with an error.
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Tasci is basically a good Hummels
I still hope kimmich becomes lahms successor. He has it all.
Rubbish King
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I'll have a draw please
This was a nice match actually. We made it look professional without really pushing any limits and score 2. Even Tasci and Götze were good
Really looking forward to Wednesday now. If we score there, then we have a very good chance to reach the final. Saturday championship and next Tuesday hopefully to San Siro!
This was a nice match actually. We made it look professional without really pushing any limits and score 2. Even Tasci and Götze were good
Really looking forward to Wednesday now. If we score there, then we have a very good chance to reach the final. Saturday championship and next Tuesday hopefully to San Siro!
do you remember how klopp 2012 said that probably no one will ever break their points record again?
are we breaking it this season again? lol
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yep
haha
Borussia Dortmund 34 25 6 3 80:25 +55 81 (2012)
FC Bayern München 31 26 3 2 74:14 +60 81 (2016)
This should be in every MasterCard commercial before a CL game as "priceless".
To be honest, not even the most fanatic Bayern supporter would have thought what happened after 2012.
yeah, it was dortmund who started this domination. thank you watzke, thank you milch,
Phoenix Fang
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Blew away another 2 goal lead. SMH
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