it's a long season.... new coach, no Benzema, James on the bench(lol).
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it's a long season.... new coach, no Benzema, James on the bench(lol).
cebri.one
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James on the bench was the weirdest thing i've seen Benitez doing in a while. Madrid needs 4 in the middle to keep control of the game and play better, Ancelotti showed that last year. Howeve i don't think benitez wants to play that way.
Dark Rider
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Isco and Jese both better than you give them credit for
having a bad match happen but they are better than this
insecure about your team from the very beginning?
such is the life in the best league in the world skill and technique wise
they are super teams so one mistake could be lethal
but fret not having more than one super team in the league means they can do what other teams local or international see as a lost cause
everyone welcome to watch and learn football at its highest level of course
the biggest thing for us is that we are still suffering our problems from last season:
so we start the season 2 points behind
we have the same problems from last season
we build our attack very slowly which give our opponent the necessary time to organize their defense against any move we make. and we are indecisive when facing the goal.
I haven't said that they are not good players, just that they can't pass. Starting with two players that can't pass in a team that desperately needs good long passes for Ronaldo and Bale to function properly is what produces boring games like in first half.
Dark Rider
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they can pass
having a bad day doesn't make them not able to pass
Ronaldo and Bale able to use long crosses for sure and it would be good sometimes
not too many of them however
Have you seen isco play, ever? his two best traits are dribbling and passing.
If he ever builds any sort of shooting ability there will be few midfielders out there that could touch him.
Fyi
https://youtu.be/ES__vbRnN-A
Woody is not willing to pay Benzema his worth. Should easily be paid more than Rooney.
#TurokITK
Those 4 or 5 long passes in the video are most probably half of what he successfully made the whole last season. Because yeah, I've seen him play. He's a good player, he has very good ball control and a great dribbling, but too many times he's more of a brake for Real's fast actions.If you check the statistics of last season, he didn't have that many assists either. But he scores very well at presentation.
edit: and anyhow my point was that it's not wise to play with both Isco and Jese from the start, them being quite similar in style. Not against defensive teams.
brokenbeans
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Ah crap Gaitan is popping up in the papers again please don't be true like the 17 other time we've signed him.
I need to understand why almost every football video has the same type of godawful music in it.
FootballFan
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Are we posting bad music highlight videos? Here's my favorite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0pPkSR4Fxw
in this video, the subject matter is more laughable than the track
About De Bruyne and a move to either City or Bayern
It's in the Kicker and Bild print, so no link.
from Bild:
-De Bruyne would rather come to us than City. Decision needs to come this week. De Bruyne's circle has touched base with Bayern last week. He would take less money to stay in the Bundesliga. A transfer agreement now with a 1 year stay in Wolfsburg has been suggested. We will decide in the next few days, but are leaning against it. The risk is too big because we do not know what will happen in a year from now
From Kicker:
-De Bruyne would prefer to transfer immediately with the destination being Munich. Bayern management has opted against his transfer for this summer. Wolfsburg could have agreed to a deal with City days ago, but have asked for a couple days to consider. Speculation that it is because of Bayern and the Winterkorn connection.
It's in the Kicker and Bild print, so no link.
from Bild:
-De Bruyne would rather come to us than City. Decision needs to come this week. De Bruyne's circle has touched base with Bayern last week. He would take less money to stay in the Bundesliga. A transfer agreement now with a 1 year stay in Wolfsburg has been suggested. We will decide in the next few days, but are leaning against it. The risk is too big because we do not know what will happen in a year from now
From Kicker:
-De Bruyne would prefer to transfer immediately with the destination being Munich. Bayern management has opted against his transfer for this summer. Wolfsburg could have agreed to a deal with City days ago, but have asked for a couple days to consider. Speculation that it is because of Bayern and the Winterkorn connection.
I can't quite believe that we'll keep him from City now, and frankly I don't want him this season. But for next season he'd be great.
Everyone is always saying De Bruyne instead of Götze but I have also been thinking De Bruyne instead of Thiago, to be honest. Maybe because of his injuries but he has not come back as strong as he was at the very beginning. Also his style seems very risky and he occassionally loses the ball in a very dangerous situation because of it.
The Coman business sounds more realistic than De Bruyne to me somehow. Despite knowing basically nothing about the guy.
How are they the same style of player?
Jese is an AMF known for his pace and strength and isco is a midfield known more for his finesse dribbling and passing and less for his pace and strength both of which are a few of his weaknesses. He is top 10 in pretty much every category in regards to passing. An 88% completion rate on his passes only the likes of xavi Iniesta and Kroos faired better.
I'm talking about long passes, since the beginning of the discussion. Isco makes a lot of short safe passes. Even so, the club is not as exclusive as you make it sound. Beside Kroos, Modric had over 90% pass accuracy last season. Kovacic had almost 88% last season. Anyhow, it's beside the point. I didn't said that Isco wasn't deserving to be in the starting line-up (I always forget how worshiped is Isco around here), I meant to say that having both Isco and Jese there playing what they played (Jese was supposed to be striker according to the line-up, but he very often found himself as AM in a mirror position with Isco) is not very efficient. And it resulted in an utterly boring first half. But if you're happy with the way Real played and with the result, fine.
But my point is he does play the long ball in fact his average pass length is 18m per game. Same as modric and one less than Kroos
Last season in La Liga:
Isco: 51.4 passes per game, 0.5 crosses per game, 1.4 long balls per game, 0.2 through balls per game
Modric: 60.7 ppg, 0.8 cpg, 5.1 lbpg, 0.2 tbpg
Kroos: 65.4 ppg, 1.6 cpg, 5.8 lbpg, 0.1 tbpg
James: 49.2 ppg, 2.1 cpg, 2.6 lbpg, 0.3 tbpg
And for fun, Marcelo has 55.7 ppg, 3.3 lbpg and 83% accuracy, Ramos has 60.2 ppg, 5.8 lbpg and 90% accuracy, Illaramendi has 33.6 ppg, 2.4 lbpg and 91.4% accuracy and Lucas Silva had 29 ppg, 2.4 lbpg and 90.5% accuracy. Last two playing 60% of the games coming as substitutes.
It's a 3 year deal.
Morten Nordstrand scored an overhead kick against Copenhagen last night to tie the game 2-2 with 1 minute left on the clock: http://gfycat.com/PolishedGraciousHornedviper
He did the exact same thing 2 years ago (albeit playing for a different team): http://www.gfycat.com/TightUglyAsiaticwildass
What a time to be alive.
He did the exact same thing 2 years ago (albeit playing for a different team): http://www.gfycat.com/TightUglyAsiaticwildass
What a time to be alive.
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Kölsch Bloot
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Indeed. Next up Carvalho and then Schneid... oh no, wait.
Coquelin hasn't been very convincing thusfar.
brokenbeans
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WBA will bite at 25M.
If LvG doesn't produce I see us parting ways with him at the end of the season. That said, folks are really overacting after only 3 league games (2 wins and tie) and one UCL qualification game. The game against Newcastle wasn't that bad. We had plenty of chances to win the game. Bad luck and bad finishing cost us the game.
Personally, I am willing to give this Rooney experiment a few more games before deciding to play him at the 10. IMO, there is no link up play between the holding mids and the attacking players. If we intend to pass the ball into the net than we better start passing the ball around quicker. I wish LVG would switch to a traditional 4-3-3 and give Herrera some more playing time.
Can't believe he keeps getting chances. Then again, maybe good enough for Serie A.
Roland_Gunner
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Looks like Illarramendi's coming back to Sociedad for 15M. Huge signing for them and I think this makes Moyes' boys serious contenders for a EL spot.
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/08/24/primera/1440429826_089464.html
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/08/24/primera/1440429826_089464.html
I'm not a big Gotze fan.
I don't know if van Gaal will survive the whole third year, but I think he will definitely make it to year 3.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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Van Gaal will still be there next year..... and Klopp will have taken a job elsewhere by then
Van Gaal will still be there next year..... and Klopp will have taken a job elsewhere by then
Pep United. We already playing possession football. My body is ready.
Ape Gone Insane
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I think we might end up with Ancelotti if Gaal goes and Giggs is not up next.
I for one,would be very happy with that outcome. Any of these 3 managers Klopp, Ancelloti or Guardiola are worthy of the job.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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You guys think Giggs might be ready to step straight up after next year?
I think the experience of being managed by Fergie and now being under Louis overrides any need to go and get managerial experience at a small club and, experience aside, there's obviously nobody else who's better suited.
Starting Wilson and Keane upfront when he was in-charge and handing Januzaj the 11 shirt were really encouraging signs.
McNair, Blackett, Pereira, Shaw and Wilson might all flourish under somebody who has so much faith in youth.
I think the experience of being managed by Fergie and now being under Louis overrides any need to go and get managerial experience at a small club and, experience aside, there's obviously nobody else who's better suited.
Starting Wilson and Keane upfront when he was in-charge and handing Januzaj the 11 shirt were really encouraging signs.
McNair, Blackett, Pereira, Shaw and Wilson might all flourish under somebody who has so much faith in youth.
Ape Gone Insane
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What do we all think about the Liverpool - Arsenal match? I'm thinking Arsenal will take it either 3-1 or 2-1.
I'm fairly certain Arsenal will win, no idea on the score.
brokenbeans
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The game tonight will be 1-1
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