Yeah, that's true. I watch brazilian football on tv sometimes. I've been impressed by how many good players are coming here/staying longer than predicted.
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Yeah, that's true. I watch brazilian football on tv sometimes. I've been impressed by how many good players are coming here/staying longer than predicted.
You disgusts me! JUVE! NOW MARSEILLES! WHATS NEXT? MAN UNITED?
Fry, this guy i know is a huge Corinthians fan.
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Yeah, same. I have a soft spot for a lot of teams. Juve, Roma, Fiorentina, Madrid, Bilbao, Betis, Dortmund, Hannover... even ones in this league (although that's mostly based off their managers - didn't like Spurs until AVB took over, find Liverpool far more tolerable with B-Rod as opposed to Kenny, like Wigan purely because of Martinez.
But do I really give a fuck if they lose? Not really. It's United or nothing, behbeh
Not even close, Carrick is 10x better. What fool would think otherwise?
I would sign Voldemort in a heartbeat.
Arteta is in fact the better player, by a country mile, I am jesting with the deluded UTD fans.
Arteta is a steady player. Carrick is very good when on form.
United's Champions League defeats by Barcelona have given Carrick a reputation as a poor player. That's evidently not true.
I think Arteta has a bit more mobility than him but Carrick is the better passer.
Carrick is the better player.
United's Champions League defeats by Barcelona have given Carrick a reputation as a poor player. That's evidently not true.
I think Arteta has a bit more mobility than him but Carrick is the better passer.
Carrick is the better player.
Carrick has bested the City, Liverpool and Arsenal midfields this year.
Same could be said for Carrick. It's only recently that he's been acknowledged for what he brings to the team. I like that he's starting to control games now, it helps when he's played alongside Cleverly and Ando.
Though Wilshere was Arsenal's best player today. Won't be long until he moves on to a better team
So bitter.
:lol
So is Carrick imo. I've felt that way for years. He's crucial to how United play. Don't really care who is better. Carrick can't even get in the England team ffs.
Are any United players unsung?
Carrick. Rafael as well I suppose, you don't see too much about him. That's it really.
I'm only cheering for OM because Barton is there.
If I really had to pick a Ligue 1 club it'd be LOSC. Great stadium and fans.
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Lol forget Arteta Carrick is better than Wilshere and Cazorla too.
Arnie will tell you he really rates Carrick. Arnie's a good judge of a player.
Cazorla did fuck all today, but Wilshere's potentially fantastic and will be the best English mid of his generation. U probz trollin tho
Carrick's still the best
It's about time United won the FA Cup. I just checked Carrick's honors at United. Not bad for a second rate international:
Premier League (4): 200607, 200708, 200809, 201011
Football League Cup (1): 200910
FA Community Shield (4): 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011
UEFA Champions League (1): 200708
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008
Premier League (4): 200607, 200708, 200809, 201011
Football League Cup (1): 200910
FA Community Shield (4): 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011
UEFA Champions League (1): 200708
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008
I know, can't help it. It's the fuel that burns inside all long time football supporters. I love Kagawa though...so it's not UTD players per se. Just average ones.
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Lol Wilshere's so good he's so amazing our little Jack brave Jack.
You guys say Clev's shit and Clev rang rings around coke-head at Old Trafford.
You guys say Clev's shit and Clev rang rings around coke-head at Old Trafford.
Wilshere is the player you wish Cleverly could be.
There is no helping you if you genuinely think Carrick is average.
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Yeah Wilshere's class. Was immense today.
It's a shame he won't win anything. A sad sad shame.
People were saying he was average today.
:lol
For the first hour he was controlling the whole match. Toyed with Liverpool's team.
Yeah, we can drop the Clev's shit act now as well. Not a god, as we like to say. But he's certainly a good player, been great against Arsenal and Liverpool, was good against City.
Carrick's class. As is Gareth Barry. Fuck the haters, admire quality midfielders.
In fairness, Gerrard, Shelvey, and Allen dominated Carrick at Anfield, it works both ways. Allen had such a stinker today, lad really needs a rest, he was boss up until early December. Henderson should have a solid run in the team.
Done.
It's all relative I suppose. All of those players would struggle to make it in Barca's B team.
I like discussing/arguing about the value of lesser players.
I mean Messi is a god, obvious for anyone to see. So saying so holds little meaning really.
Dembele or Carrick?
Agree that Cleverley's unsung, too, mostly because people spent far too long hyping him up and making jokes about his godlike status, that when he really does kick on and string together numerous good performances it's overlooked.
He was great today, against an admittedly scatty and off the pace Liverpool.
He was great today, against an admittedly scatty and off the pace Liverpool.
Yeah they did; it's taken a while for Carrick to come on this season but there's no one better in the league at doing what he does. The narrative that just because he got decimated by the two finest midfielders of the century means he's now average is a tiresome one.
Allen really was poor today, but Hendo's looked good recently. Gerrard looked pretty knacked at times as well.
Although Hendo's coming along awight
Knowing Hodgson, Carrick would probably be dropped for the next world cup. Hendo's a good shout seen as Woy loves his Liverpool players
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Holding my judgement until the end of the season.
I waver between average - good.
I think he'll definitely be a useful squad player for us at the least but the last few weeks are giving me hope he can contribute a little more than that, almost in the way Fletcher pushed on and began to establish himself. We know he won't be world class or anything. I'm liking his attitude at the moment, seems very self assured, asks for the ball, goes looking for it. Would like to see him be a bit more forwards looking on it but you can tell his tactical role in the team is to always provide an extra pass for our other players and double up, he does this alot when he goes out wide and creates little triangles for the winger and full back.
But yes - it's been a good month for Clev, he needs to turn that into a good 6 months.
:lol so true
When Henry Winter compared him to Cesc. Jesus. Henry Winter is dumb.
Different players, hence the Arteta/Carrick comparison. They'd work well together actually.
Completely agree with everything you've written. Fletcher was always one of those players where you'd struggle to see if he stood out at an Arsenal or a Chelsea, but for United he's upped his game and played a very specific role and done it with aplomb. Clev's been doing that recently for sure.
Both on top of their game, I'd rather have Anderson in the side, but that never fucking happens.
Knowing Hodgson, Carrick would probably be dropped for the next world cup. Hendo's a good shout seen as Woy loves his Liverpool players
I would say he's getting a bit too old, but it's only one and a half years 'til the World Cup! Ferguson will probably persuade him to retire from international football.
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