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Salazar

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Darren Tulett ‏@1DarrenTulett
QPR move for Yann M'Vila threatened by Rubin Kazan. @lequipe says Russians met French club director in Paris yesterday.

Darren Tulett ‏@1DarrenTulett
Everton target Etienne Capoue being chased by Bayern Munich, reports @lequipe. Germans will watch France midfielder this weekend. #efc

Fuck Bayern. Take take take.

Oh, and Kyoufu

Darren Tulett ‏@1DarrenTulett
#Newcastle and Nancy agree 2.5€mln fee for 20-year-old French left-back Massadio Haïdara. Player hasn't accepted pay offer, says @lequipe
 

dc89

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United couldn’t beat City on the pitch or in the title race last season, so it seems they have hatched a dastardly plot to undermine them off the field.

The Reds have teamed up with Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham to press for the Premier League to adopt its own financial fair play rules, specifically targeting clubs with rich benefactors – just like Chelsea and City, by sheer coincidence!


United are suddenly worried that all this money being pumped into unnamed clubs is bad for the game, as it creates ‘inflationary spending’.

They want to adapt Uefa’s new rules, aimed at stopping clubs spending beyond the money they generate themselves, to our domestic league.

Of course, by a happy twist of fate, this would mean United – whose revenue is way ahead of everyone else in the league – could buy all the best players, give them the best wages, and win everything, from here to eternity.

And, by another weird coincidence, it would also mean Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs would suddenly edge ahead of City and Chelsea in chasing lucrative Champions League places.

We could even stop playing each other at football altogether, re-name the Premier League the Manchester United League, hand them all the trophies in August and fly off somewhere warm for the winter.

This self-interested foursome are now trying to sell their idea to the rest of the Premier League, to get the 14 votes, out of 20, they would need to change the rules.

“It’s a debate – we’re having a discussion on financial fair play,” said Gill. “The impact of the new TV money has clearly focused the minds. Seven or eight clubs are going to have to abide by UEFA’s regulations in any case.

“The league are working on this and will put a paper together to be discussed at the February meeting. Whatever’s decided is dictated by 14 clubs.”

United need to hope that, if their plan for world domination goes through, that the Premier League doesn’t start applying it retrospectively.

The Reds were one of the main movers behind the Greedy League which aimed to concentrate the wealth in the hands of the few at a time when football was turning from a sport into a multi-billion pound business.

As the richest club in the country, they drove the agenda as English football underwent the biggest inflation – of transfer fees, player wages and, as a consequence, ticket prices – in football history.

They more than quadrupled the record fee paid by an English club – which they already held for the 1981 signing of Bryan Robson – in 1995 when they paid £7m for Andy Cole.

They almost doubled the record by paying over £28m for Seba Veron in 2001, only to break it again a year later to bring in Rio Ferdinand.


They happily paid top dollar to their squad of top players, forcing other clubs to either take financial risks to try and catch them, or simply be content to sit back and admire as United won everything.

It was natural law, they thought. They were earning their own money and spending it. Only Blackburn, who briefly found a rich owner, and moneyed Arsenal interrupted their dominance, and they were just a temporary irritation.

It was a great arrangement. Then along came Chelsea, and more latterly, City to mess up this perfect world, by finding wealthy foreign owners who were prepared to pour money into the clubs they bought.

At the same time, United – despite a brave effort by a minority of their fans – found an American owner who did the exact opposite and began leeching money OUT of their club.

Suddenly, clubs throwing their money around are doing a bad thing, says Gill.


It is not their own money, so they shouldn’t spend it, goes the new mantra.

But the market doesn’t care whether Gill made the money by grafting at a coal face for 12 hours a day, or was handed it by a friendly Arab.

Spending more than the others inflates, wherever the cash come from.

Leeds nose-dived, financially and in football terms, by trying to keep up with United, long before Roman Abramovich and Sheikh Mansour came on the scene.

City and Chelsea have played the game by rules which United liked when it suited them. Now the rules suit other clubs more, United and the other three want to change them.

If they truly want financial fair play, all revenue should be centrally pooled and dished out, preferably with the Football League and grassroots football getting a fair share.

Chances of United going for something truly fair? Don’t hold your breath.

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereve...8346_manchester-uniteds-ffp-stance-a-bit-rich

I should have just bolded the whole freaking lot. United can't stand it :lol
 

Salazar

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City and Chelsea have played the game by rules which United liked when it suited them.

Except no.

Just post "FUCKEN DERP" and bold that, dc.

Suddenly, clubs throwing their money around are doing a bad thing, says Gill.

Dipshit pseudo-paraphrase. MEN City reporter can fuck himself.
 
Darren Tulett ‏@1DarrenTulett
QPR move for Yann M'Vila threatened by Rubin Kazan. @lequipe says Russians met French club director in Paris yesterday.

This is likely bullshit. Rubin are suspended from registering new players because of debt problems. Plus they wouldn't even have the money. Good thing too, because a good DM is what they sorely need :)
 

GorillaJu

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Well that's how it works, doesn't it? United, Liverpool and Arsenal will all benefit hugely from a domestic FFP, while City and Chelsea will suffer. I'm sure Roman and Mansour would love to have a Diablo 3-style micro-transaction market where you can buy PL points with millions of dollars, at the detriment to any team not subsidized by an oligarch or a billionaire gangster. Can't expect clubs to no react in favor of themselves when presented with a new challenge
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If this is Courtois, why is Atlético abbreviated "ATH" in the left corner ?

It's ATM (Automated Teller Machine)
 

LegoArmo

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That is truly fair. United are a bigger club, they earn more more, they should be able to spend more money.

And I think you'll find United fans are pretty happy with the way the Premier League has been going under the current rules. They saw off the mega-millions of Chelsea and are going to do the same of City.

Either way, United win. Get used to it.
 

Salazar

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The writer's a fucken moron

United need to hope that, if their plan for world domination goes through, that the Premier League doesn’t start applying it retrospectively.

What ? Spending as a percentage of earnings ?

As the richest club in the country, they drove the agenda as English football underwent the biggest inflation – of transfer fees, player wages and, as a consequence, ticket prices – in football history.

They more than quadrupled the record fee paid by an English club – which they already held for the 1981 signing of Bryan Robson – in 1995 when they paid £7m for Andy Cole.

They almost doubled the record by paying over £28m for Seba Veron in 2001, only to break it again a year later to bring in Rio Ferdinand.

We weren't a gangster's pet-project, you cunt. We were a business. If he's going to wet himself about FFP, he should try to understand it.
 

Yen

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I don't understand the Andy Cole business. £7m wasn't 4 times the price of the next highest transfer record. Off the top of my head, didn't Liverpool buy Dean Saunders for £3m?
I'm a massive pedant.
 

Mastadon

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The writer's a fucken moron



What ? Spending as a percentage of earnings ?



We weren't a gangster's pet-project, you cunt. We were a business. If he's going to wet himself about FFP, he should try to understand it.

Fuck this writer for making me want to defend United. I feel so dirty.
 

operon

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blah blah lots of crap

I should have just bolded the whole freaking lot. United can't stand it :lol
These rules will come in and its for the good of the games wages getting far too high and that trickles down the leagues. Wigan spending 70% of revenue on wages how is that sustainable
 

Salazar

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Man down.

PJX
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(Today, 12:42 AM)

Be a family man.

Stuart Brennan ‏@StuBrennanMEN
@R_o_M absolutely but that takes time. City needed to challenge for trophies quickly. Not defending City spending.

Yes you are, you thick twat. All this rhetoric of immediacy is absolutely an attempt at justification. Chelsea and PSG are the same. NOW NOW NOW. It's bollocks.

Oh, Yenrot

Stuart Brennan ‏@StuBrennanMEN
@Temps4 I made a mess of the transfer fee progression, admittedly, but the principle remains the same

Stuart Brennan ‏@StuBrennanMEN
@Temps4 I got figures wrong because I had short space of time to write it. Show me a good article that is not provocative in some way

dc, don't post garbage.
 

Wilbur

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http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereve...8346_manchester-uniteds-ffp-stance-a-bit-rich

I should have just bolded the whole freaking lot. United can't stand it :lol

Trust you to post the dumbest fucking thing in any of these threads. 14 teams supporting the idea and your small time mentality can only think about United. Ignoring the fact that you still somehow don't seem to understand the source of our revenue as opposed to yours. Ignoring the fact the only reason you're in a position to oppose it is because you've abused FFP and are in danger of going out of Europe quicker than you usually do.

Nonsense. As usual.
 

Salazar

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The kids never learn :(

Having a kid often fires folks up.

Guy at indoor started going in two-footed all the time after his wife had a baby.

Ended up launching himself at the wrong bloke, who picked up up by his shirt and shattered his jaw.

Hoping ClevGod gets (sustainably) mental after Georgina gives birth.
 

Wilbur

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Best news of the new year!

Messi is the only Barça fan that likes VV. Hope we'd buy Wily from Malaga or David Ospina from Nice.[/QUOTE]

Welcome back my love.

It's apt for me to say you can do far better than Willy.
 

AndresON777

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Welcome back my love.

It's apt for me to say you can do far better than Willy.

<3

Degea would be nice but I'd rather spend money on some CB's.


FIFA killed my damn buzz. I actually put a good 90 minutes together and the little cunt quits at 90 minutes. Scored a brace with Atletico vs Chelsea too. Falcao obv

Saw the Hobbit last month. Really liked it but I didn't know it was a trilogy now. Lol
 

dc89

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Trust you to post the dumbest fucking thing in any of these threads. 14 teams supporting the idea and your small time mentality can only think about United. Ignoring the fact that you still somehow don't seem to understand the source of our revenue as opposed to yours. Ignoring the fact the only reason you're in a position to oppose it is because you've abused FFP and are in danger of going out of Europe quicker than you usually do.

Nonsense. As usual.

14 teams do not currently support the idea. United, Arsenal, Liverpool & Tottenham currently are for this. But they require 10 other teams to support it.

How have City abused FFP? Let UEFA decide who's abusing FFP, but they'll be hard pressed to find any evidence of City abusing it, unless you want to harp on about who owns Etihad.

City spent a shit ton of money to compete, now they're spending the money on building something ground breaking. No other club in this country has the ambition to build a groundbreaking campus like ours. You can't put a value on that.


The kids never learn :(

What did he do

His last posts were in some Halo 4 thread.

Edit: here it is:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508836
 

Yen

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14 teams do not currently support the idea. United, Arsenal, Liverpool & Tottenham currently are for this. But they require 10 other teams to support it.

How have City abused FFP? Let UEFA decide who's abusing FFP, but they'll be hard pressed to find any evidence of City abusing it, unless you want to harp on about who owns Etihad.

City spent a shit ton of money to compete, now they're spending the money on building something ground breaking. No other club in this country has the ambition to build a groundbreaking campus like ours. You can't put a value on that.
So much wrong with this post, but I'll point out this: which club in England can afford to build a "groundbreaking campus"?
You can't build something on ambition, you certainly can with oil.
 

Wilbur

Banned
14 teams do not currently support the idea. United, Arsenal, Liverpool & Tottenham currently are for this. But they require 10 other teams to support it.

How have City abused FFP? Let UEFA decide who's abusing FFP, but they'll be hard pressed to find any evidence of City abusing it, unless you want to harp on about who owns Etihad.

City spent a shit ton of money to compete, now they're spending the money on building something ground breaking. No other club in this country has the ambition to build a groundbreaking campus like ours. You can't put a value on that.

I guarantee you the majority of clubs will support it. There's been opposition from who, the two moneybags clubs, West Brom and someone else I can't remember. But besides the point, you're fucking sobbing and sitting there wanking into your own tears because United are pushing for it, ignoring the other three and basing it on jealousy or fear.

Get over it.

It's because of clubs like yours FFP is being enforced in the first place. Maybe when you stop making losses you can have a credible argument to how City are definitely going to clear it, and the campus is a great idea and it's ground breaking.

But until then you have absolutely no leg to stand on, and instead you're going to post fucking tripe about how United are running scared and doing this all as an affront to City, rather than using common sense and looking to help the league as a whole.

Of course we'll be able to afford better wages than everyone else in the league. But then so can Spurs or Arsenal; they just don't choose to. They have a wage cap. City don't, and they're spending ludicrous amounts of their turnover on wages.
 
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