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Football Thread |OT16| Bacon & Dregs

bjaelke

Member
Isn't pay day for me until next Friday... But tax back early next week.

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You're not getting anything on Easter Friday. Not unless you work on Colbjørnsensgade.
 

kharma45

Member

Linius

Member
But he's like our fourth keeper.

Well we have four excellent keepers. Normally I'd pick Stekelenburg first, but he hasn't played that much lately. Though he's been getting his matches again since that manager left Roma recently. And Krul/Vorm/Vermeer aren't alle that different if you ask me. It's not like one of these three stands out.

Is toch simpel hoe van Gaal selecteerd. In tijd van veel Ajax spelers hadden ze goede keeper nodig. Nu veel Feyenoorders dus maakt het niet uit wat voor keeper. Vandaar selectie en basisplaats Vermeer

Someone posted this on Facebook. Little cunt.
 
Looks like West Ham will finally be awarded the Olympic Stadium, there's a press conference on SSN at 10:30.

It's sort of bitter-sweet feeling for most, as while the OS will give the club a great opportunity to expand and improve, it'll be so sad to see the death of the Boleyn and the affect that'll have on the area. Oh well, this is how I'll always remember the ground, before Brown put up those awful Lego-brick towers in 2001;

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Saw my first game there in 1993 against Manchester United - Chapman & Morley scored two in five minutes to make it 2-1, before that Judas caaaaahnt Paul Ince equalised right at the death. I'll never forget the atmosphere, such jubilation followed by pure hatred, lol.

This is what they're planning to OS to look like once all's said and done;

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Hmm, it's a shame well lose the Boelyn Ground, good atmosphere, classical stadium.

And I feel like it's a shame the OS will just become a football ground, but with a running track...so that will suck too.
 

Linius

Member
Indeed, I rate Vorm, Stekelenburg and Krul higher...

Really? Point me out all the errors Vermeer made this season that justify picking Krul and Vorm over him. Except for picking up a pass from a defender in his hands I can't name any. Vermeer is more than decent this season, Cillessen is benched for a reason.
 

confuziz

Banned
Really? Point me out all the errors Vermeer made this season that justify picking Krul and Vorm over him. Except for picking up a pass from a defender in his hands I can't name any. Vermeer is more than decent this season, Cillessen is benched for a reason.

Krul and Vorm are leagues ahead of Vermeer imo. Vermeer has the tendency to always look for a proper solution, while he should just kick the ball away sometimes.
 
And I feel like it's a shame the OS will just become a football ground, but with a running track...so that will suck too.

I guess it's all going to depend on how good the retractable seating is - I know we can't expect to be as close to the pitch as at the Boleyn, but too far back and it'll be just another athletic venue poorly converted for football.
 

Linius

Member
Krul and Vorm are leagues ahead of Vermeer imo. Vermeer has the tendency to always look for a proper solution, while he should just kick the ball away sometimes.

Our style of playing is always finding the football resolution instead of just kicking the ball away. Since Vermeer adds great quality to that aspect I don't think that's a bad side. The main complaint about Vermeer would be that he's looking insecure at 'high balls' from time to time. Though that has improved a lot over the current season.
 
BTW, not seen it mentioned here but La Liga is even closer to the brink now.

EU wants to know why Spain is letting is allowing it's clubs not to pay tax. UEFA should have been wondering too.

It is the powerhouse of global football, home to its greatest players and a World Cup-winning national team, but Spain's soccer bubble looks set to explode as European authorities prepare to halt public funding of debt-ridden clubs.

In a move that threatens to provoke the partial collapse of a football system built on unsustainable piles of debt, competition authorities in Brussels want Spain's government to explain why it has allowed clubs to build up vast, unpaid tax and social security debts.

With many clubs in the top two divisions already having trouble paying bank debts totalling some €3.5bn (£3bn), the move would likely force some clubs into liquidation. Historic names such as Deportivo de La Coruña or Racing Santander could simply disappear. Other top clubs, such as Valencia, will have to sell players and face years of decline.

Indignant MEPs are already demanding to know why Spain is happy to request €40bn in aid from eurozone taxpayers for its banks while allowing the clubs to build up a tax debt of €692m.

"This is unfair since all other Spanish taxpayers, as well as the other European football clubs, must, of course, be up to date with their tax payments," said Willy Meyer, a Spanish MEP for the United Left coalition, in a recent question to the competition commissioner, Joaquín Almunia. Meyer pointed out that while clubs pay multimillion-euro salaries to star players, the cash-strapped government of Mariano Rajoy has imposed cuts on public services.

"It is incomprehensible that while taxes such as VAT are being increased and hospitals and public companies are being privatised as a means of generating short-term resources, these private, recreational bodies are receiving preferential tax treatment," he said.

Other European soccer clubs are also crying foul. "This beggars belief. We pay hundreds of millions of euros to keep Spain out of the shit and then they let the clubs off their debts," Uli Hoeness, the president of the German side Bayern Munich, complained when debt figures were made public last year.

A spokesman for Almunia said a formal investigation – similar to one looking at public subsidies to Dutch soccer clubs – must wait until the Spanish government has replied to its inquiries.

Analysts warn that action from Almunia to force Spain's tax authorities to recover debts will expose the chronic financing problem in Spanish soccer.

Professor José María Gay de Liébana, of the University of Barcelona, said reckless lending – especially by former savings banks controlled by local politicians – had created a bubble that must eventually burst.

"When people ask me what clubs could be in danger, I reply with the list of the only clubs that are not in any kind of danger. They are Barcelona, Real Madrid and Athletic Bilbao," said Gay de Liébana. "Hoeness is, basically, right. If I don't pay my taxes, then the authorities come after me. But that doesn't happen to the clubs, which are not treated like other companies."

Twenty-two first- and second-division clubs are in insolvency proceedings or have been in recent years. Several are thought to be struggling to survive strict debt-repayment plans imposed by creditors. They include former league title-winners such as Deportivo de la Coruña and a long list of historic clubs such as Zaragoza, Racing Santander, Mallorca, Albacete and Betis.

Deportivo – semi-finalists in the Champions League in 2004 – had been allowed to build up a tax debt of €96m, a report to an insolvency court this week revealed. "The real cause of the insolvency is a complete lack of realism in management, taking on spending and investment that is absolutely beyond the club's economic possibilities," the club's administrators wrote.

Indirect funding of clubs via publicly owned TV stations and loan guarantees from regional governments are expected to come under scrutiny in Brussels.

Valencia, one of Spain's top clubs, passed temporarily into public hands this year after it failed to pay back a loan guaranteed by the regional government. It is now in the hands of the Bankia bank, but this was nationalised after it ran up €19bn in losses last year, meaning the club – which has had to stop work on a vast, half-built stadium in the city – is now in effect owned by Spanish taxpayers.

Two other clubs, Elche and Hercules, are also part-owned by Valencia's regional government, which guaranteed loans that they failed to pay back.

"Is it the European commission's intention, in rescuing Spanish banks, to allow the practice of granting bank loans at subsidised rates to clubs in the Spanish professional football league – which is a form of favouritism – to continue?" the Italian MEP Mario Borghezio asked in a parliamentary question.

Almunia's commission confirmed that it had asked Spain to provide it with figures on clubs' public debts.

"The commission agrees that, under the state aid rules, tax and social security debts of professional football clubs must not be treated differently from similar debts of other economic actors," Almunia said. Rajoy has ordered tax authorities to tighten control of clubs and the sports minister, José Ignacio Wert, says debt has begun to fall.

Several clubs, including Deportivo de La Coruña, have seen television or football pools income embargoed. The debt has been reduced since early last year, but progress is slow.

"This cannot be sorted out overnight," said one source close to the Spanish tax authorities.

"Soccer is a very highly charged affair. If you go after a club too much, then the supporters may rise against you," said Gay de Liébana.

He believes that is why authorities are targeting Deportivo de La Coruña rather than a highly indebted but well-supported club such as Atlético Madrid. "Deportivo fans are not going to block the streets of Madrid," he said.

As clubs tighten their belts, players will be sold and the quality of soccer in Spain will likely fall. "Talent will flee to the Premier League in Britain or elsewhere," said Gay de Liébana.

The Spanish case and the Brussels inquiry into €10m of public aid to several Dutch clubs, including PSV Eindhoven, threatens to spill over in to other countries.

"If you start asking Italian and French clubs whether they are paying market rents for municipally owned stadiums, we will get into a very big tangle," said Gay de Liébana.

Hope this happens.

It'll be sad for so many clubs to be crippled but that's what happens when you over spend and when two clubs monopolise the league.

Nevermind sports, this is criminal on a social and ethical level.
 

confuziz

Banned
Our style of playing is always finding the football resolution instead of just kicking the ball away. Since Vermeer adds great quality to that aspect I don't think that's a bad side. The main complaint about Vermeer would be that he's looking insecure at 'high balls' from time to time. Though that has improved a lot over the current season.

I just can't forget Utrecht - Ajax from last year. That shit was just hilarious.
 
Dunno enough about the difference between ultra-high end and high-end. If ultra-high end would have me future-proofed for a good few years (with warranties,) then whatever it costs up to £1,500 or so. I'd use my TV as a monitor I think, or the spare 22" XPS monitor I have lying around.
I would never spend top dollar on a PC hoping it will last.
With you budget I'd spend £800-£900 now on a very good pc with nice, quiet case and efficient PSU and then save the £600-£700 for a you upgrade and / or overhaul after 3-5 years.
 
BTW, not seen it mentioned here but La Liga is even closer to the brink now.

EU wants to know why Spain is letting is allowing it's clubs not to pay tax. UEFA should have been wondering too.



Hope this happens.

It'll be sad for so many clubs to be crippled but that's what happens when you over spend and when two clubs monopolise the league.

Nevermind sports, this is criminal on a social and ethical level.

About fucking time. Disgraceful operation.
 

Wes

venison crêpe
I just saw that Carlos Vela has scored 12 in 24 for Real Sociedad. Good for him.

Remember Aliadiere? He's scored 11 in 25 for Lorient.
 

Nyx

Member
Really? Point me out all the errors Vermeer made this season that justify picking Krul and Vorm over him. Except for picking up a pass from a defender in his hands I can't name any. Vermeer is more than decent this season, Cillessen is benched for a reason.

It's not about errors made imo.

Vorm and Krul have been doing fine in the Premier League, Vermeer is doing fine in the Dutch Eredivisie....

And my personal opinion is that Vorm is the best goalie atm.

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Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
lol Ade has gone AWOL again

Was supposed to meet up with the Togo team on Tuesday but still hasn't turned up. I don't know why he even bothers with those twats.

Some of those Rodgers quotes are amazing. The one about fence is pure Brent.
 
So, I 1.0'ed(A+'ed/whatever crazy grades you use) that bitch of an exam I had about a month ago. Fuck yeah, feels so good :D

Only Toni Kroos and Jogi Löw can fuck this day up for me. They will, won't they?
 
BTW, not seen it mentioned here but La Liga is even closer to the brink now.

EU wants to know why Spain is letting is allowing it's clubs not to pay tax. UEFA should have been wondering too.



Hope this happens.

It'll be sad for so many clubs to be crippled but that's what happens when you over spend and when two clubs monopolise the league.

Nevermind sports, this is criminal on a social and ethical level.

Best league in the world.
 
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