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Football Thread |OT18| Have you ever seen a Mackem punch a horse?
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mocolostrocolos
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GLORY, GLORY, MAN UNITED.
Congrats, my fellow Devils.
Oh, and frak off Gotze.
Congrats, my fellow Devils.
Oh, and frak off Gotze.
Thank you for generalizing. Do you seriously think that this sort of thing is unique to clubs, that one set of fans will be morally superior to another. We are talking millions here, it all balances out, its the circumstances that cause fans to behave one way or another.
Not condoning the booing. Benayoun's had a rough time. First time I ever watched Chelsea live was in Bukit Jalil where he was widwly subjected to boos motivated by anti-Semism.
Phantast2k
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Someone on fb saw a tv segment on ZDF (sort of like BBC) in which the reporter said he has sources confirming that this was leaked by Bayern officials in light of the Hoeneß scandal. He called it a foul to the German football.
fuck bayern death to bayern
Milchmonster
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I'm searching for ideas about what to do with a horrible BVB shirt from last year, got some shitty number, like 11 or something, some shit player. Open for everything.
mocolostrocolos
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Do you actually believe it?
derExperte
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Moved away when he was six.
And I LOOOOVE how he apparently doesn't give one fuck about Dortmund by not talking to them. Tells me he's ruthless enough to make it at Bayern.
Freewheelin'
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Piss on it, burn it and then send it to Gotze
The_Hitcher89
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Someone leaked it, and I doubt it was Gotze's party. There is no advantage to it coming from Gotze's side.
Also, Bayern have surely tapped Gotze up unless Dortmund are lying about not knowing about the deal?
Vivalaraza
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They would say that.
Think about the parties involved. There is no reason at all for Dortmund or Gotze to want this to go public now. None at all. Only leaves Bayern..
Good post.
Thanks baby <3 here's hoping La Decima is on the way
It seems to be unique to clubs that Chelsea in te last year have booed someone for being related to a player suspected of having received racist a use, have booed their manager time and time again and are now accused of being discriminatory towards their own player.
Special set of cunts. Not all of them, but the few that are doing it are letting the entire fan base down.
Dutch Gronk
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Signed with Bayern for next season.
Bolded the most important part of your post.
Who's benefitting, and who's suffering from today's news? Work backwards. I think it's highly logical that crushing your greatest rival's spirit the day before the biggest game in their history is by design. No matter how many official PR documents suggest otherwise.
mocolostrocolos
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Dunno, but if this drops like a bomb in BVB lockers I think it can benefit Bayern.
They're scared that Dortmund can go pass to the final and actually win it. If this generates an internal fight in Dortmund they can take advantage of it.
So happy with the Götze news, even though I didn't expect Bayern to go for him for another year or two. In fact, I also couldn't have imagined Götze wanting to leave his bro Reus so quickly.
In any case, I am happy with the transfer but the timing is awful. They should have waited till the season is over.
Maybe Dortmund's experiment with Gündogan as No. 10 will become the standard now. Good thing they got Sahin back. (and now have loads of cash)
In any case, I am happy with the transfer but the timing is awful. They should have waited till the season is over.
Maybe Dortmund's experiment with Gündogan as No. 10 will become the standard now. Good thing they got Sahin back. (and now have loads of cash)
There's a difference between the two, to be fair. One wasnt gutting their main rivals. One wasnt done shadily in the dark. One wasnt leaked a day before a Champions League semifinal, nor in the midst of bad publicity for the team.
On one hand it's admirable in its ruthlessness and business manner. On the other, it's rather unsavoury.
Fuck Bayern lol.
So Dortmund have Gotze and also Lewandowski leaving in the summer.
mocolostrocolos
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Hmmmm you might be right. Timing seems odd after all.
Vivalaraza
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Man City's reign as Premierleague champions is the shortest ever.
This is what it feels like to be City.
This is what it feels like to be City.
Happy Birthday Arnie, LLNP.
I get the hate for Bayern et al, but why did Dortmund include such a release clause in the contract? By including it in there it means they are willing to part with the player for a certain amount and surely Bayern would always be a potential buyer. Mind you, I don't like Bayern as a club mostly because of the manner of our quarter-final exit a few season ago but I really don't see anything wrong in what they did here. There were other club potentially lining up a bid for Gotze so they had to act fast. If anything, the fault should lie on Gotze himself and that's solely for the timing of the transfer and not the move itself.
I get the hate for Bayern et al, but why did Dortmund include such a release clause in the contract? By including it in there it means they are willing to part with the player for a certain amount and surely Bayern would always be a potential buyer. Mind you, I don't like Bayern as a club mostly because of the manner of our quarter-final exit a few season ago but I really don't see anything wrong in what they did here. There were other club potentially lining up a bid for Gotze so they had to act fast. If anything, the fault should lie on Gotze himself and that's solely for the timing of the transfer and not the move itself.
derExperte
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Right on. Bayern doesn't profit from this reveal one bit.
Also I hope all the talk about Lewandowski was only a diversion. Don't want him, let's keep Gomez.
The_Hitcher89
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Does it include the main game? Sold mine a while ago
Put Believe FC on the back.
I'm pissed at Bayern for a number of reasons. Tactical or not - their timing is absolutely horrible. Disrespectful in every sense of the word. Disrespectful even by Gotze to allow this announcement to come out early. If there is any disharmony in the Dortmund camp that disrupts their Champions League campaign he will only look worse. I also disrespect Bayern greatly after this because they have only acquired some of the best talents in all of Europe (a lot of which have arrived only this season! Dante, Shaqiri, Mandzukic, etc) + the coup of Pep Guardiola, and yet they take away one of Dortmund's key players. This reminds me of Electronic Arts when they took away the NFL license from 2k Games in the early 2000s when 2k was heating up the competition. And if Lewandowski goes to Bayern as well, then they deserve to be hated more.
For once, United actually look more respectful to me, and that is saying a lot coming from me.
Whoa! We met bro? PM me and identify yourself I supported the Italian national team at the World Cup due to my fondness for Cannavaro, Del Piero, Pirlo and Buffon especially.
I'm surprised myself - I never imagined bumping into someone I met - on GAF.
I have not bro. I have started becoming nicer a few years ago ;D
He'd be my idol if he met you bro
Thank you kindly Suen. You are so kind! Good luck to Arsenal in their top four bid and to Real Madrid in the CLs. Where is your cousin from :0?
PM me I am very curious now Haha - you remembered my videogame collection Still as big a fan as ever! You are right about it all btw - I was in media and I wasn't into football much at *all* back then. My huge love for football was born in January 2011!
I need to meet you too dan! One of the nicest and kindest posters here.
Haha! I'll probably not stick up an avatar of the Sir until he retires.
Surely you jest
I have bad news for you Yurt It was not a club but it was the Italian national team overall as I was fond of many of their players (as i mentioned above - Cannavaro, Del Piero, Pirlo and Buffon especially)
Happy bday Arnie! Have a wonderful day bro
It is a horrible move indeed!
I actually like Mikel Shatner! He can hold the ball pretty well unlike many of our players. What don't you guys like about him?
Thanks for the kind words Wilbury but I think it is just a small group of fans involved and they were rightly booing the sub decision by Rafa - they were proven right. Benayoun's intro added nothing to the game, made it feel like CFC were playing with one man less.
For once, United actually look more respectful to me, and that is saying a lot coming from me.
Man, shock of my life scrolling through and seeing your picture - it's been years. Didn't you support an Italian team at university though?
Whoa! We met bro? PM me and identify yourself
I supported the Italian national team at the World Cup due to my fondness for Cannavaro, Del Piero, Pirlo and Buffon especially.I'm surprised myself - I never imagined bumping into someone I met - on GAF.
I have not bro. I have started becoming nicer a few years ago ;D
He'd be my idol if he met you bro
Thank you kindly Suen. You are so kind! Good luck to Arsenal in their top four bid and to Real Madrid in the CLs. Where is your cousin from :0?
PM me
I am very curious now Haha - you remembered my videogame collection Still as big a fan as ever! You are right about it all btw - I was in media and I wasn't into football much at *all* back then. My huge love for football was born in January 2011! I need to meet you too dan! One of the nicest and kindest posters here.
Haha! I'll probably not stick up an avatar of the Sir until he retires.
Surely you jest
Please tell me it was Inter.
I have bad news for you Yurt
It was not a club but it was the Italian national team overall as I was fond of many of their players (as i mentioned above - Cannavaro, Del Piero, Pirlo and Buffon especially)Happy bday Arnie! Have a wonderful day bro
It is a horrible move indeed!
I actually like Mikel Shatner! He can hold the ball pretty well unlike many of our players. What don't you guys like about him?
Thanks for the kind words Wilbury but I think it is just a small group of fans involved and they were rightly booing the sub decision by Rafa - they were proven right. Benayoun's intro added nothing to the game, made it feel like CFC were playing with one man less.
Dortmund forever going to be that plucky team who everyone takes players from but continually churn out their own youngsters and are entertaining to watch.
So like a successful version of Arsenal.
Unsurprisingly, the old tale of Bayern just poaching players is getting played again.
Götze is a phenomenal player. Bayern didn't buy him first and foremost to weaken BVB as everyone is saying. They bought him because he's fantastic, German and only 20. Who knows if they'd even get the chance in two years time? Barca, Real, ManUnited could be willing to drop the money and Bayern would lose out. Look at Özil, who is gone for good.
The fact that Dortmund is losing Götze is secondary to that.
agreed.
Götze is a phenomenal player. Bayern didn't buy him first and foremost to weaken BVB as everyone is saying. They bought him because he's fantastic, German and only 20. Who knows if they'd even get the chance in two years time? Barca, Real, ManUnited could be willing to drop the money and Bayern would lose out. Look at Özil, who is gone for good.
The fact that Dortmund is losing Götze is secondary to that.
agreed.
Regarding the Rio affair, while I am sure that some are booing him solely because of his relation to Anton, he had not done himself any favors either. Many Chelsea fans have disliked him before the affair and especially after he conducted himself so badly during it, what with his shenanigans on Twitter. It's unfair to accuse all those booing him to be motivated purely by his relation to Anton. Fans boo players they don't like, it's nothing new.
I'm glad you are referring to those morons as a minority now. Your previous phrasing made it seem as if they were the majority and us posters in this thread were the minority.
And yes, booing is manager isn't very cool. I don't hate Benitez but he has done an appalling job and was replacing a fan-favorite who was harshly sacked, it's really not hard to understand their feelings. Certainly doesn't rank that highly at all on a scale of despicable acts.
Again, I'm not exactly condoning this behaviour. It's just that I have always been noticing a trend to make football into a 'moral' issue, whereby fans like to pretend their teams are morally superior, whether in terms of their players and fans. And I believe a lot of this is fake, fans are primarily motivated by club loyalty and seem to want to clutch onto 'higher ideals' in order to justify their superiority. Also think that when so many people are involved, it's impossible for it to be an individual matter. It's not that the genes of Chelsea fans are predisposing them to bad behaviour or anything, humans really don't behave that differently among each other. Similar situations would breed similar reactions in most other clubs, I feel.
I may have been a little harsh on Suarez recently, what with asking for his punishment to take place next year and all. Really though, I am just pissed about the 2 dropped points, i really couldn't give a shit about Suarez any more. Just to show how I'm guilty of such behaviour which I denounced as well.
Vivalaraza
Member
Yep but I assume Gotze demanded it in his contract.
£31m is below what he would have been worth otherwise IMO
The_Hitcher89
Member
Hmm. Nah, still not worth buying it until I have time to play it. Must have wasted hundreds of pounds these last 5 years buying games at release, and them being far cheaper when I get around to playing them.
I can watch replays of Man Utd celebrating titles, but everytime it happens in the moment, I honestly feel physically sick and feel like planting my size 10 through the TV screen.
But the rest of the bundesliga aren't much to shout about right now. They'll make the Champions League each year as long as Klopp is there.
Joel Was Right
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So have Bayern merely triggered a release clause for Goetze or has he signed a contract with them?
EXCELLENT POST.
Still an excellent achievement when their manager is Roberto Mancini (a big negative IMO). Just because they have the funds doesn't mean they know how to play like a team - and you have to have noticed that this season for the most part. The fact that they won the PL under such circumstances is awesome.
It's 13 quid.
That's less than the number of titles Man Utd have won.
Of course, but qualifying for CL every year in a poor league isn't exactly "success" for Dortmund at this point.
Hell, would you say City have been successful this season by being default #2?
Vivalaraza
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He's joining on July 1st
Vivalaraza
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Joel Was Right
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He was commenting how he was building a home in Dortmund just several months ago after signing a new contract with them last year. Clubs were interested him before he did this, so its a surprise he would jump ship so quickly especially after Dortmund's CL run.
What has Dortmund-GAF said about this
Contracts have no meaning anymore.
What has Dortmund-GAF said about this
Contracts have no meaning anymore.
The_Hitcher89
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Add it up bro.
Far Cry 3
Prince of Persia
Bioshock 2
PSASBR
Dead Space 2
All of them bought for full price on release, none of them have been put into my PS3. With the PS4 coming out, I'm tightening the purse-strings a bit, as well as putting my PC plans on ice
Still impulse buying books though
Milchmonster
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Arnie <3
You make it sound as simple and such a stupid thing without knowing the background. Bitch's old contract was until 2014, so he'd have left this year or next year, anyway. With only one year left on the contract, who knows how much me would have gotten, certainly not much more than those 37m. And who knows if we had gotten anything at all. Not unlikely at all that Bayern would have just waited for his contract to run out.
So, hard to blame BVB. It was either give him a new contract with a sure 37m buyout or risk letting him go for free.
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