It doesn't count as touching if there are female fleshy bits in the way.
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For Porn Stars, Double ends up being Quadruple. Wages of porn stars in the industry
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It doesn't count as touching if there are female fleshy bits in the way.
Edit: Oh yes, best top of page post ever.
My point being they all have the same job descriptions. Varying pay rates of course.
Seems like a good deal to me. You could do two shoots a week, for $1000 a pop. That's $8K a month for a total of $96k a year. How long can one shoot take? Let's say half a day, so 12 hours. You are making $2K for 24 hours of work. Sign me up. Girl on girl would make you $76.8k a year. That's still pretty good considering you are doing the most vanilla form of porn.
Add to that appearances (strip clubs for example), cam and misc stuff from your website and that total can easily double. There are women who make a killing from just working in bars/clubs. So I don't see how a porn stars could be low on cash. They should be rolling in money...and cum.
Add to that appearances (strip clubs for example), cam and misc stuff from your website and that total can easily double. There are women who make a killing from just working in bars/clubs. So I don't see how a porn stars could be low on cash. They should be rolling in money...and cum.
pants
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Right, if you want to take it to the very base level then thats true but that isn't how the world works. You also have to look at why they are having sex for money. The purpose of porn is to make a product that many people will use while the purpose of escorting or prostitution is for the instant gratification of one person(or maybe both). I feel like I shouldn't have to explain this at all, one tick of the job description is the same, everything else is different.
meltingparappa
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I assume 99.99% of the long hours on a film set aren't very erotic.
With lube and viagra it only seems that way.
Also I don't know, doesn't sound like so bad a thing in a context of three people who actually like each other. *shrug*
Romance must truly be dead.
IdreamofHIME
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Not the top girls, but the lower end for sure. Especially the more fetish workers like the doms and trans girls.
speculawyer
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Wow. Seems really low. That is what I would have guessed high-end hookers make. But I know nothing.
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It just seems.. impractical. The only way it seems even ergonomically viable for more than 30 seconds is an eiffel tower, which is kind of hot in it's own extreme way. It still just seems a tad too adventurous for me. Girlfriends I've had said that the fantasy of giving oral while being done from behind is a way way hotter fantasy than double penetration.
I'm not talking about the consumers of porn. It's still two people getting paid for sex, hence the lack of distinction.
Hypereides
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Well if you got no problem from a moral point view to sell yourself fucking on camera - regardless of gender -, I guess those extra 400$ are totally worth it. Dignity all in tact and stuff.
It's not "low" par say, but it comes at a cost.
But hey people how love sex and fucking like rabbits might consider it an ideal job.
All at the same time while directors, producers, site owners generate thousand more than that through memberships online, digital or physical copies.
Well, technically speaking isn't that what they? minus all the camera bullshit? I mean pardon my french, but it totally fits the criteria imo.
That's like saying two people work in retail without making any distinction about what they sell or how high they are in the work force. I understand you made your original comment to sound edgy or something but you don't need to keep defending it. We already know it doesn't make much sense.
Where did you get "little extra" $400 from. That poster was comparing a day of work to a month of work and the day was winning by $100.
Edgy or something? WTF are you even talking about? My original comment was in response to there being a difference between escorts/hookers, and there isn't any. It's solicitation for sex. Just looking at an escort rate is they also do stuff porn stars do, like roleplaying or charge extra for anal/whatever. There only difference is they're being filmed.
You can pretty it up all you like. Doesn't change what it is.
Really high end hookers probably earn 10 times that.
Hypereides
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I'm using the amount loosely.
Said poster mentioned she/he earned 450$ for 2 weeks working at retail, while shooting a standard porn scene earns 800$. That's "roughly" 400$ more.
Because all in all those 100$ aren't worth that much considering what hoops you'd need to jump through to earn them. That's just my opinion anyway.
If 100 are very critical for some folks, and they love sex, then by all means, I wouldn't hold them back.
But you make it sound like they are barely making any more. The poster makes 900$ in a month. A straight scene, according to the OP, is 1000$ for a day. This is not a small monetary difference. That is huge. Whether you want to debate the "hoops" they'd have to jumpthrough is fine but don't pretend there isn't a huge monetary difference in the example you quoted.
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hodayathink
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And some people (like myself) pay for porn because they know that it won't exist if they don't, and want to pay people so they can continue to put out good product.
FloatingDivider
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Does anyone feel like this porn bubble is going to bust once the generation of people that pay for porn dies? Not to mention cam sites and amateur nonsense that are already demolishing profits.
Hypereides
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Figuratively speaking 100$ (we're talking basic scene here - girl on girl) isn't very much. It is more cash, I'll give you that. But it's definitely not "alot" more.
Then again that all narrows down to someones individual perception of big or small incomes. Its subjective. Nobody's pretending here, other than expressing his own personal opinion on the economy.
Again, for one person 100$ might be a significant amount, for another it might be considered an underpayment. Depends on what angle you see it from.
I'm not sure I get why people say "Go do something else" as if that's still not great money for having sex - not even counting appearances and simp money. Given how much time you actually spend at work, there's plenty of time to pursue other stuff.
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GoldenEye 007
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I'm confused. How is $1000 for a days work not significantly more than $900 for a month's work? I don't get how you don't get it.
That crisis came and went about 6 years ago.
Pornstars are on twitter just like your favorite WWE superstar and its easier than ever to do business now that everything is under one (take it or leave it) umbrella. Sales are down, true, but the industry has adapted better than most had anticipated. Larger studios took it the hardest, but for the working girl its probably a better place than its ever been if you plan to work between 6 months of 2 years and then get out.
You aren't getting it or purposely ignoring it so I'll just say it outright. At minimum, we are looking at a $3000 dollar difference in monthly income here. Now from that point, you can debate if that is a little or a lot of money, I think its a huge difference but whatever floats your boat. I'm just annoyed that you keep throwing around a $400 or $100 number that makes no sense.
Going by twitter they always doing something. Apirl O'Neil takes like 56 baths a day in between watching Dr.Who, Katie Kox is always at Popeyes, Bree Olsen is being weird in a different hotel every night, Mason Moore is forever in court, Lexi Belle is always traveling, Sarina Valentine lives at Walmart etc.
hodayathink
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The reason porn doesn't pay anywhere near as much nowadays is simply because there's less scenes being shot than there were years ago because of the proliferation of tube sites. Yes, if you shoot 2-3 times a week as a girl you can make tons of money, but there's literally only about 20-25 girls in porn that actually shoot that much, because there just aren't enough shoots to go around anymore. There's somewhere around 200-400 full time boy-girl performers out there (at least and only in SoCal), and arguably only about 400-800 scenes being shot in any given month. Even if you take the low and high end of my numbers, that would mean the average girl shoots 4 scenes a month, and the truth is that the top girls shoot about 10-12 scenes a month and all the other girls are fighting for scraps.
Wow...I could actually become a porn producer if I had millions of dollars.
Isn't that like, everyone's dream job?
Japan's most extreme fetish: interracial.
Isn't that like, everyone's dream job?
Japan's most extreme fetish: interracial.
If someone told me that Lexi doesn't even have sex anymore I'd absolutely believe them. All she does is show up, collect her simp fees, then catches the next flight out. Can't even hate on her.
The rest of your post is true, but there's a much bigger emphasis on quality over quantity these days. I don't think that's too big of a 'problem', really - but it does keep diversity and variety down quite a bit. Smaller studios being snuffed out was the biggest casualty of all that.
That problem got curved by a larger entity basically buying all the tube sites.
The rest of your post is true, but there's a much bigger emphasis on quality over quantity these days. I don't think that's too big of a 'problem', really - but it does keep diversity and variety down quite a bit. Smaller studios being snuffed out was the biggest casualty of all that.
You'd probably make more money digging through all of your campus's couches for spare change.
hodayathink
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From the producers I talk to, it's like making sausage. Once you've been inside the machine, you can't really ever enjoy it the same way again.
I wouldn't make sausage. I'd make sexy ham and cheese on toast.
For one thing, I get nothing out of creating a meat factory. I wouldn't be in it for the money because I'm not some greasy scumbag sex peddler, grubbing for every dime I can squeeze out of some 18 yr old's box. I'm just in it for the sex and the videotape. The art of it. The fact that we can make money is just cherries on top. Maybe we could actually put some standards for ethical treatment in the industry.
hodayathink
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Lexi hasn't performed an on-camera boy-girl scene since about July. She's effectively retired right now, and at best won't be coming back until early next year, if at all.
Edit: And Manwin (aka the company that bought all the tube sites).....don't get me started on them. They basically own about a quarter of the industry at this point, and are probably looking to buy the rest. Though they haven't avoided their own problems (their former owner got nicked for tax evasion, and just sold his large stake in the company to the rest of the board).
Who you talk to Max Hardcore?
Hmm, not sure about that. I got offered £500 once but not sure that's the going rate.
That's why God gave us Ariana Marie.
Her wishlsit is pretty reasonable.
Would be worse if you found out she only did 4 scenes because she died or something. And the problem is it wouldn't be that surprising =/.
hodayathink
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That's why God gave us Ariana Marie.
Then you probably don't want to hear that she just got engaged.
Engaged to one of the people that got her into porn in the first place. She's still shooting as far as anyone can tell too.
FUBAR McDangles
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Many certainly are.
There are websites you can look up online of escort services. I was bored and went looking a few months back and some names I remember include Jayden Jaymes and Diamond Foxxx. That site looked a bit sketch/outdated so I'm not sure how reliable it was, but there are plenty of stories of some girls doing escort work on the side.
Hypereides
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Neither "purposely ignoring" nor "not getting it", but hey A for effort dude.
That monthly income you've calculated is 'the ideal', and that ideal is theoritical. I'm sure there may be some hard working actors who accumulate that amount, but the reality is that the general mass of relatively unpopular or unknown, employed porn actors/actresses likely don't reach those numbers.
Just like I said. It's a matter of perception. It's fine if you believe it to be a large amount for the occupation. I don't.
electroshockwave
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Usually, but I've seen double vaginal and double anal. And triple penetration that involved double vaginal + anal as well as double anal + vaginal.
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