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For Porn Stars, Double ends up being Quadruple. Wages of porn stars in the industry

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DY_nasty

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highluxury said:
Neither "purposely ignoring" nor "not getting it", but hey A for effort dude.

That monthly income you've calculated is 'the ideal', and that ideal is theoritical. I'm sure there may be some hard working actors who accumulate that amount, but the reality is that the general mass of relatively "unpopular" employed porn actors/actresses likely don't reach those numbers.



Just like I said. It's a matter of perception. It's fine if you believe it to be a large amount for the occupation. I don't.
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That's not the ideal. That's what many would consider the standard for any reputable client. I don't know where you got those numbers but not even the grimiest potholes that manage to stay afloat offer a number that low.

The issue that many face is getting work to begin with - not being lowballed to a point of indentured servitude.
 
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Sorian

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highluxury said:
Neither "purposely ignoring" nor "not getting it", but hey A for effort dude.

That monthly income you've calculated is 'the ideal', and that ideal is theoritical. I'm sure there may be some hard working actors who accumulate that amount, but the reality is that the general mass of relatively unpopular or unknown, employed porn actors/actresses likely don't reach those numbers.



Just like I said. It's a matter of perception. It's fine if you believe it to be a large amount for the occupation. I don't.
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That's not the ideal at all. That's working once a week doing a straight scene, sure I didn't take out the agent fee but here, I'll use your lame excuse:

highluxury said:
I'm using the amount loosely.
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Your original quote of an extra $400 is pitifully wrong, end of story.
 
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Hypereides

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DY_nasty said:
That's not the ideal. That's what many would consider the standard for any reputable client. I don't know where you got those numbers but not even the grimiest potholes that manage to stay afloat offer a number that low.

The issue that many face is getting work to begin with - not being lowballed to a point of indentured servitude.
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Hey man, I can admit my knowledge about the porn biz doesn't extend that far, but I don't believe there's that many reputable clients out there.

I'd imagine the precentage isn't very high.

Sorian said:
Your original quote of an extra $400 is pitifully wrong, end of story.
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Very funny. You're forgetting about the subjective part of this discussion.
 
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Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I actually do pay for porn (yeah I know), and its really bizarre how much people whine about the dudes in porn. They're supposed to be somewhat generic.
 
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hodayathink

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highluxury said:
Hey man, I can admit my knowledge about the porn biz doesn't extend that far, but I don't believe there's that many reputable clients out there.

I'd imagine the precentable isn't very high.
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In SoCal alone, there's probably about 50-100 reputable ones. The you have more in Las Vegas, San Francisco, and Miami/Southern Florida.

Edit: And even the non-reputable ones, if you have a good agent, you don't have to worry about them very much. They generally are only screwing over the girls that try to shoot for them without any representation, because if they screw over agencies, they're never getting girls from that agency again.
 
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Hypereides

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hodayathink said:
In SoCal alone, there's probably about 50-100 reputable ones. The you have more in Las Vegas, San Francisco, and Miami/Southern Florida.

Edit: And even the non-reputable ones, if you have a good agent, you don't have to worry about them very much. They generally are only screwing over the girls that try to shoot for them without any representation, because if they screw over agencies, they're never getting girls from that agency again.
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Fair enough.
 
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Sorian

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highluxury said:
Very funny. You're forgetting about the subjective part of this discussion.
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I said awhile ago that the subjective was up to your interpretation and I didn't care. I was just correcting you on something factually incorrect and instead of admitting to such, you've just been deflecting from that topic and still using the incorrect info as a base
 
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New porn is free and numerous, I would think making money would be even more difficult. I have some small concerns the videogame industry is going in that direction.
 
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Sorian

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Riposte said:
New porn is free and numerous, I would think making money would be even more difficult. I have some small concerns the videogame industry is going in that direction.
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If video games went in this direction, the take away would be that there would be no more indies and the quality of the AAAs would increase with a decrease of their release schedule. I don't see that happening, I also don't know if that would be a good thing or bad thing.
 
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Hypereides

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Sorian said:
I said awhile ago that the subjective was up to your interpretation and I didn't care. I was just correcting you on something factually incorrect and instead of admitting to such, you've just been deflecting from that topic and still using the incorrect info as a base
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A lot of colourful words in that post.

We had two different baselines. You can claim it to be factual or not, but essentially we just agree to disagree.
 
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DY_nasty

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highluxury said:
A lot of colourful words in that post.

We had two different baselines. You can claim it to be factual or not, but essentially we just agree to disagree.
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How do you ignore numbers, admit to make up your own, then talk down to someone else like THEY got shit all wrong? lmao
 
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Sorian

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DY_nasty said:
How do you ignore numbers, admit to make up your own, then talk down to someone else like THEY got shit all wrong? lmao
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It's his usual shtick, it's infuriating arguing with him but it needed to be done. He really only came in this thread to toss in his usual prudish view of porn "oh, your giving up so much more in your morals then you are making with those couple extra dollars." Attacking the root inaccurate information was causing a quick cave-in so his only recourse was to ignore me and try to play it off. It's not working but ya'know, whatever.
 
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Hypereides

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DY_nasty said:
How do you ignore numbers, admit to make up your own, then talk down to someone else like THEY got shit all wrong? lmao
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Honestly all I see is a miscommunication. I didn't ignore the numbers, I used mine hypothetically. But I can admit I however saw all this shit differently, and that's probably where we've misunderstood one another. Obviously I see it from a different perspective. If I'm wrong about something, I'm willing to admit it.

Besides that I ain't the only one talking down here. The subtext of hostility isn't mine alone.

You dudes are welcome to believe what you want. I don't see a 'victory' in argueing about the economy in the porn industry in this arena.

Sorian said:
It's his usual shtick, it's infuriating arguing with him but it needed to be done. He really only came in this thread to toss in his usual prudish view of porn "oh, your giving up so much more in your morals then you are making with those couple extra dollars." Attacking the root inaccurate information was causing a quick cave-in so his only recourse was to ignore me and try to play it off. It's not working but ya'know, whatever.
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There's no need to be pissed off just because I don't agree with ya. But hey to each his own dude.
 
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Sorian

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highluxury said:
Honestly all I see is a miscommunication. I didn't ignore the numbers, I used mine hypothetically.
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"I didn't ignore the numbers, I just knew they wouldn't help my argument so I made up my own."

I wonder, how many mental hurdles do you have to jump through to justify that what you say makes any sense?

highluxury said:
There's no need to be pissed off just because I don't agree with ya. But hey to each his own dude.
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It's just ridiculous and kind of funny at this point.

Edit: Also, GAF acting all kinds of weird today. Damn servers :p
 
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dead souls

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FloatingDivider said:
Does anyone feel like this porn bubble is going to bust once the generation of people that pay for porn dies? Not to mention cam sites and amateur nonsense that are already demolishing profits.
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It already has. There is significantly less porn being produced than in the mid 2000s. That's why so many stars cam/escort now. It's the only way to make any decent money in the biz.
 
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Devolution

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Being a camgirl seems to have more perks at this point. Don't have to leave home, don't have to fuck someone and test yourself constantly, you can use whatever you want as your dildo. Last time I watched some a chick used a light saber then the next day she used a stick shift on her car. You can bet dudes were throwing e-money everywhere. This plus tossing out your amazon wish list, the popular ones seem well taken care of and they don't even have to mess with anyone but themselves.
 
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Devolution said:
Being a camgirl seems to have more perks at this point. Don't have to leave home, don't have to fuck someone and test yourself constantly, you can use whatever you want as your dildo. Last time I watched some a chick used a light saber then the next day she used a stick shift on her car. You can bet dudes were throwing e-money everywhere. This plus tossing out your amazon wish list, the popular ones seem well taken care of and they don't even have to mess with anyone but themselves.
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They have been more interesting than real porn to me lately.
 
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DY_nasty

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waypoetic said:
Thousand bucks for a fuck? That's... Not much.
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Considering you require no real training or special skills, there's not too many other things that could net you you that kind of secure money in 2-3 hours. Add in the potential earnings to back end of that and its not too hard to see why its such an attractive gig and has been for such a long time. People focus on hard sales not being as high as they once were while they forget that marketability is easier than ever and the ways to actually profit from that marketability is at an all-time high for performers.
 
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Odrion

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Jtwo said:
One in front, one in back. One time I read an article in Esquire that described how you can bump into/feel the other guy. It didn't sound very erotic.
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That seems pretty erotic to me.

Also aren't all the tube sites owned by porn manufacturers now and is highly profitable? I dunno, I think porn is sticking around.
 
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Odrion

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So are we all just waiting around for this to turn into another pornstar discussion thread?

Err, I mean. I wonder how much Alina Li makes, I'd sell her my debt if you know what I mean!
 
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MThanded

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I wonder how much Abella Anderson banked before leaving the industry.

Also, if she really left because she subjected a guy to a penile fracture.
 
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clemenx

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I'm not sure why most are saying it's not much money? I don't care how hard (lol) it actually is. It's still most likely a single day's work for most scenes.
 
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Nickodemos said:
Apparently the girls like him. He (reportedly) is a decent guy off-camera.
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This is probably why I like a lot of girl-guy stuff with James Deen in it. It sounds true from what little I've read of him so it stands to reason he would have way better chemistry with his co-stars. A shitty dude can ruin even a decent scene with the your favourite porn star while James Deen probably won't.
 
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Sober said:
This is probably why I like a lot of girl-guy stuff with James Deen in it. It sounds true from what little I've read of him so it stands to reason he would have way better chemistry with his co-stars. A shitty dude can ruin even a decent scene with the your favourite porn star while James Deen probably won't.
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He's apparently also kind of a loner lol. Doesn't really talk to any of the guys on set.
 
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DY_nasty

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MThanded said:
I wonder how much Abella Anderson banked before leaving the industry.

Also, if she really left because she subjected a guy to a penile fracture.
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That was Bethany Benz.

And Abella cashed out right on schedule. Only thing worse than someone walking away too early is walking away too late.
Odrion said:
So are we all just waiting around for this to turn into another pornstar discussion thread?

Err, I mean. I wonder how much Alina Li makes, I'd sell her my debt if you know what I mean!
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Alina Li is going to take Nyomi Marcella's vacancy and stack all the moneys. The push to get her into the industry after her GDP scene was enough to power all the homes in Canada.
 
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Oblivion

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PhoenixPause said:
The most annoying thing is that those top performers are usually convinced by agents not to do interracial porn, because it can lower their $ demand thanks to racist fans.
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Is that why Penny Porsche said she wouldn't bang any black dudes?
 
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Forceatowulf

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The whole thing about pornstars not banging Black guys because of racist fans is so fucking stupid.

First of all, It's not a coincidence to me that most of the girls who don't do interracial are boring performers. A lot of them only have their looks and "innocence" and nothing fucking else going for them. This isn't everyone of course, but the vast majority? Yeah.

Basically, any time you hear a porn star say she doesn't do Black guys there's a high probability she's a shit performer.

Oh, and if banging Black dudes hurts your brand why did girls like Sasha Gray, Lisa Ann, and Gianna Michaels blow the fuck up? You telling me if they never did IR they would be on par with Hollywood celebs right now? The fuck out of here.

I've always felt like the Porn Industry encourages their racist fans with the way they approach this ordeal. They're a bunch of fucking enablers.

Moze said:
He is a a good performer
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Not when he's smacking around the talent. Which is 95% of the videos I've ever seen him in.

And unfortunately I've had to put up with him in a lot of videos, that overrated cunt.
DY_nasty said:
Better than Timo
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Ok, I'll grant you that.
 
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