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[WordAssassin]

Sometimes less is more if the franchise is just going wallow in mediocrity or implode on itself. As a Silent Hill fan I know that all too well.

And in the span of the Ghostbusters franchise there is far more good than bad and Ghostbusters as an IP has certainly not wallowed and imploded on itself. People like to shit on GBII but it's a fine movie with a lot of very funny parts. The cartoons were, for the most part, excellent (Sorry Slimer and the children GBs, you can burn). The video game is fantastic and I've even seen some people give it more praise than the second movie. The comics are fucking phenomenal and if nothing else deserve the chance to be adapted in TV or film to reach a wider audience.

It is absolutely asinine to hope for an IP with such immense potential to fail, especially when it has such a huge fanbase and creators that have been starving for another film entry for the better part of 25 years. As an actual fan of any IP, a new entry should be met with the hope it will be good and spawn more good entries, not pessimism and the desire to see it fail to prevent it from being touched for another 20+ years.

Watch Egon when the hotel manager is getting billed.

The first movie has so many incredible subtle character moments and gags. I love watching Peter's face when the Mayor is talking to the Reverend and he slaps his cheek. Bill Murray actually looks surprised and about to laugh, like the slap was improvised.

Also when he jumps over the "gate" to introduce himself to Dana the first time and clips his foot on the railing. That could have ended very pooly if he was an inch or two lower heh

 

[Violence Jack]

They could have just gone with 4 funny women. Strap a proton pack on Lily Tomlin and I'd be there.

It still baffles me how neither Tina Fey nor Amy Poheler weren't cast in this.

Knowing Sony, if it bombs, they'll just reboot it again.

 

[streetsahead123]

Female-driven comedies and Melissa McCarthy movies tend to have a strong multiplier. If it opens at $50 million and follows that multiplier, it'll end up with $180 million domestic which is great for a comedy (but most comedies don't cost $150 million). I don't know too much about international box office but I know US comedies don't do well overseas because of the language barrier, which is probably why Sony spent so much money on the effects, to give foreign markets a reason to see it. My prediction is this thing ends up around $400 million worldwide and is barely profitable.

 

[streetsahead123]

The internet can keep pretending that Melissa McCarthy isn't considered funny by a majority of the population, but people keep paying to see her movies. Ditto for Leslie Jones. Nobody knew who the fuck she was two years ago but now she's doing car commercials where the entire hook of the commercial is "Look, it's Leslie Jones!"

 

[Dead Man]

"the ensemble sci-fi dramedy The Martian."

The Martian was a "dramedy" "starring" Kristen Wiig? Yeah, nah

Yeah, that stood out to me.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

Fury Road's final BO numbers are more or less what I'm expecting.

 

[Grinchy]

It still baffles me how neither Tina Fey nor Amy Poheler weren't cast in this.

Knowing Sony, if it bombs, they'll just reboot it again.

After trying to watch Sisters, I can't believe anyone would want the two of them in a movie ever again.

The internet can keep pretending that Melissa McCarthy isn't considered funny by a majority of the population, but people keep paying to see her movies. Ditto for Leslie Jones.

That's why I can't stand people talking shit about Adam Sandler movies. Lots of people keep paying to see his movies, so obviously he's funny. We should all respect his comedic writing and acting talents.

 

[MagnaderAlpha]

So 83% on RT is shit now?

I am surprised anymore

I tend to disregard RT and Metacritic regarding things. I'm not like everybody else, and uses those as the definitively example of how much something is beloved and brillaint or shit. I'm just calling it from the trailers .... and given some of the other critics out there, I'm sure I'm not alone in this opinion.

It still baffles me how neither Tina Fey nor Amy Poheler weren't cast in this.

Knowing Sony, if it bombs, they'll just reboot it again.

Funny you mention them. They are two actresses I would've LOVED to see as Ghostbusters.

 

[Yautja_Warrior]

As a GB fan I hope it turns out decent enough and I hope it does well just to piss off all the super nerds that hate the idea of remaking it.

Don't get me wrong, I love the original movies but they are still on dvd / blu-ray, this new movie doesn't delete those movies and I can enjoy them anytime I want, also the original crew had a long time to make GB 3 and they couldn't get their shit together to make it, so I don't really have any problem with a new take on GB at this point.

 

[Volimar]

I tend to disregard RT and Metacritic regarding things. I'm not like everybody else, and uses those as the definitively example of how much something is beloved and brillaint or shit. I'm just calling it from the trailers .... and given some of the other critics out there, I'm sure I'm not alone in this opinion.

Funny you mention them. They are two actresses I would've LOVED to see as Ghostbusters.

I disregard RT and metastatic. Instead, here's a critic that agrees with my preconception.

 

[border]

The internet can keep pretending that Melissa McCarthy isn't considered funny by a majority of the population, but people keep paying to see her movies. Ditto for Leslie Jones. Nobody knew who the fuck she was two years ago but now she's doing car commercials where the entire hook of the commercial is "Look, it's Leslie Jones!"

I'm not sure if doing car insurance commercials is exactly the pinnacle of success or evidence of being a major figure in popular culture.

 

[The Elite]

I'm not sure if doing car insurance commercials is exactly the pinnacle of success or evidence of being a major figure in popular culture.

Insurance mascots seem to be some of the more popular television figures in the US and transcend their medium into fan fiction, Rule 34 and other such delightful types of media.

Flo Progressive Insurance
Esurance girl
Geico Gecko.

That's a good place to be. Leslie is going place.

 

[border]

Insurance mascots seem to be some of the more popular television figures in the US and transcend their medium into fan fiction, Rule 34 and other such delightful types of media.

Flo Progressive Insurance
Esurance girl
Geico Gecko.

None of them could open a major motion picture. The Geico cavemen could not even helm a cheapass sitcom.

If there was a Car Insurance Cinematic Universe where Flo and the Gecko teamed up to defeat The General though, that might sell some tickets.

 

[MaverickHunterX]

It still baffles me how neither Tina Fey nor Amy Poheler weren't cast in this.

Knowing Sony, if it bombs, they'll just reboot it again.

Hell, I'd raise you Sarah Silverman, or Kristen Schaal for added craziness!

 

[jstripes]

This morning my wife told me she wants to pre-order tickets to see it opening night.

As a GB fan I hope it turns out decent enough and I hope it does well just to piss off all the super nerds that hate the idea of remaking it.

Ya, seriously. The endless whining from all the manbabies makes me want to see it even more.

 

[The Elite]

Hell, I'd raise you Sarah Silverman, or Kristen Schaal for added craziness!

Kristen Schaal seems like a natural fit for Ghostbusters.

Yeah, I was a little disappointed by the lack of Poehler or Fey. Even as non-Ghostbusters characters. Glad Cecily Strong is in this.

 

[KingV]

None of them could open a major motion picture. The Geico cavemen could not even helm a cheapass sitcom.

If there was a Car Insurance Cinematic Universe where Flo and the Gecko teamed up to defeat The General though, that might sell some tickets.

Seems sort of unlikely... I mean, he's a general

 

[Henchmen21]

Seems sort of unlikely... I mean, he's a general

Than they get the Colonel.

 

[Goodstyle]

The review embargo for this film lifts on Sunday, I honestly can't wait to see the reactions. Already seeing some positive buzz about Kate McKinnon's performance.

 

[Lord Frieza]

And in the span of the Ghostbusters franchise there is far more good than bad and Ghostbusters as an IP has certainly not wallowed and imploded on itself. People like to shit on GBII but it's a fine movie with a lot of very funny parts. The cartoons were, for the most part, excellent (Sorry Slimer and the children GBs, you can burn). The video game is fantastic and I've even seen some people give it more praise than the second movie. The comics are fucking phenomenal and if nothing else deserve the chance to be adapted in TV or film to reach a wider audience.

You can't be talking about Extreme Ghostbusters? That show was great.

 

[Akiraptor]

An opening under $50 million wouldn't bode well for the film making its money back, especially if reviews are bad (which I hope they aren't, since I'd love to see more Ghostbusters movies). For comparison's sake, Mad Max: Fury Road made $45 million in its opening weekend, and despite stellar reviews barely managed to crawl past $150 million domestic.

Mad Max's R-rating limited its audience somewhat, but the fantastic reviews helped it out immensely. It went on to make $378 million worldwide.

How the film is received matters a lot here, because a good chunk of the profit comes from DVD/Blu-ray sales and TV money. How the theatrical release was received weighs heavily on how much money it makes post-release.

I'd be more optimistic if Sony weren't making this film. Aside from James Bond they've not really put out anything great in recent years.

 

[SneakersSO]

They're in because they want these people who actually do want to be in a new Ghostbusters film to have good success with it. There's a reason why Bill Murray is vehemently opposed to a GB3 and yet considered it fine to be in this.

According to leaked Sony emails, the reason Bill Murray is in this may have something to do with potential lawsuits Sony was going to pursue him if he became uncooperative. Thats what I had read, anyway.

 

[Zaph]

Seeing quite a few posters for Ghostbusters around London, but it really stood out that they're virtually all just the logo and date. Yeah, it's a very iconic logo, but have some faith in your film and celebrate the cast, rather than look like you're trying to hide them.

While they're very different films, I think Sony would have been better served taking some cues from Lucasfilm for dealing with this shit.

 

[Abounder]

Sony has done a terrible job with franchises and Ghostbusters looks to fall in the same category. Remember ya'll - this is a company that couldn't make a Spider-Man universe work even with a $700m box office

 

[Lord Frieza]

According to leaked Sony emails, the reason Bill Murray is in this may have something to do with potential lawsuits Sony was going to pursue him if he became uncooperative. Thats what I had read, anyway.

I've read this, too, but I don't know, it sounds kind of like bullshit to me. I know there's some crazy ass contracts and shit in Hollywood, but to be able to sue an actor just because he doesn't associate with a film seems like too much. If Sony had that kind of power over Murray's GB decisions, I feel like they would've forced him into doing GBIII a long time ago.

 

[Sad Affleck]

I think it will be a solid movie. The first trailer was dreadful but the next one had some good moments and a much better tone.

 

[213372bu]

The review embargo for this film lifts on Sunday, I honestly can't wait to see the reactions. Already seeing some positive buzz about Kate McKinnon's performance.

Didn't Sony move the embargo from Sunday morning to Sunday evening due to negative buzz.

Saw it on my Facebook feed at the very least.

Seems really minor, but I'm not even sure of the effect of moving embargo that little, or if the article was just projecting or reciting rumors.

Gonna try going in as clean as possible.

 

[WordAssassin]

You can't be talking about Extreme Ghostbusters? That show was great.

Oh heck no, while I personally don't care much for EGB I know that it's still a good show. It's a little too "Ow the edge" for me and while I love Jim Cummings I hate the theme song. But under that there's still great stuff, I mean they fight Cenobytes and friggin C'thulu!

I was referring to when The Real Ghostbusters became Slimer! And The Real Ghostbusters and they had shorts/episodes more focused on him, and then when things when completely off the rails and the show introduced a group of kids with a clubhouse on top of the firehouse or something.

 

[formasymphonic]

Too must stank on this, and everyone will learn the wrong listens after this

This is exactly what I'm expecting - and will be heartbroken to see. I don't want to see it used in future as an example of "why" films/reboots/etc with a female led cast won't get green lit.

 

[kunonabi]

Seeing quite a few posters for Ghostbusters around London, but it really stood out that they're virtually all just the logo and date. Yeah, it's a very iconic logo, but have some faith in your film and celebrate the cast, rather than look like you're trying to hide them.

While they're very different films, I think Sony would have been better served taking some cues from Lucasfilm for dealing with this shit.

Nah, lazy rehash aimed solely at preying on nostalgia isn't really all that much better. Creed is the benchmark they should have been aiming for.

 

[jstripes]

Seeing quite a few posters for Ghostbusters around London, but it really stood out that they're virtually all just the logo and date. Yeah, it's a very iconic logo, but have some faith in your film and celebrate the cast, rather than look like you're trying to hide them.

I've seen a few bus shelter ads around Toronto. They have the cast, but the logo is the focus.

This poster from Taiwan nails it, though:

 

[Freshmaker]

Yes, because Ernie Hudson, Bill Murray, Rick Moranis, Sigourney Weaver, Dan Aykroyd, Annie Potts, and the corpse of Harold Ramis all want to make another Ghostbusters movie. What is it with nerds being so super defensive of their interests?

Interesting take. The first trailer did imply that it wasn't a reboot.

A continuation wouldn't necessarily imply that the old cast had to return as well. Could've just been set in the same world picking up with the Ghostbusters business years later with a new crew of GB's.

Which is again, what the first trailer implied.

That could've been interesting in its own right since they'd have a historical reference of sorts to refer back to etc and the cameos that are in the current film would've had the potential to be meatier.

If you want to get upset about this particular perception, blame Sony's scattershot messaging.

 

[Henchmen21]

Yes, because Ernie Hudson, Bill Murray, Rick Moranis, Sigourney Weaver, Dan Aykroyd, Annie Potts, and the corpse of Harold Ramis all want to make another Ghostbusters movie. What is it with nerds being so super defensive of their interests?

Aykroyd has been trying to get GBIII up since the late 90s. It's why the Game that came out 7 years ago had his input.

Oh heck no, while I personally don't care much for EGB I know that it's still a good show. It's a little too "Ow the edge" for me and while I love Jim Cummings I hate the theme song. But under that there's still great stuff, I mean they fight Cenobytes and friggin C'thulu!

I was referring to when The Real Ghostbusters became Slimer! And The Real Ghostbusters and they had shorts/episodes more focused on him, and then when things when completely off the rails and the show introduced a group of kids with a clubhouse on top of the firehouse or something.

RGB did have an ep with Cthulu.

 

[WordAssassin]

Aykroyd has been trying to get GBIII up since the late 90s. It's why the Game that came out 7 years ago had his input.



RGB did have an ep with Cthulu.

I never said it didn't I was just pointing out one of the cool things EGB did since I was saying I don't personally like it. Even as a kid it felt way too try-hard to me but then, you have to consider the era it came out in.

Also Aykroyd has been trying for a lot longer than that to make GB3 a thing. It would be cool if the reboot did well enough to revitalize the brand and they took some of his GB3 ideas so he could finally see them on the big screen. Though I imagine the game must have been awesome for him too since they were able to do things he'd always wanted to do (several huge monsters) but never could due to budget reasons.

I wonder how he feels about Guostbusters now VS what he'd originally set out to create? It seems like he loves it more than anything and paranormal stuff is an enormous passion of his, but at the same time it's very, very different from his original vision.

 

[Lord Frieza]

Oh heck no, while I personally don't care much for EGB I know that it's still a good show. It's a little too "Ow the edge" for me and while I love Jim Cummings I hate the theme song. But under that there's still great stuff, I mean they fight Cenobytes and friggin C'thulu!

I was referring to when The Real Ghostbusters became Slimer! And The Real Ghostbusters and they had shorts/episodes more focused on him, and then when things when completely off the rails and the show introduced a group of kids with a clubhouse on top of the firehouse or something.

Ah, oh yeah, I had forgot about that. I haven't watched Real Ghostbusters in ages.

 

[Lashley]

I've just booked my tickets for Tuesday

Taking my mam and sister

 

[Vinland]

I find it hilarious how offended GB fans are about it being a reboot, as if a reboot of a long dead franchise is some new bizarre concept.

Well the argument is that it didn't have to be even with the current cast. Much like how Oceans 11 was not rebooted but it will be Daniel Ocean's sister played by Bullock.

50 million is an absolute travesty situation. The marketing for this movie is more than that according to Collider.

As for the anti-reboot crowd I know it may suck to see reboots but they doesn't exactly diminish the original. It is nothing more than a missed opportunity if they fail to meet the expectations of fans.

 

[Mrbob]

The review embargo for this film lifts on Sunday, I honestly can't wait to see the reactions. Already seeing some positive buzz about Kate McKinnon's performance.

Her character was the best thing about the trailers.

I wouldn't be surprised if this movie ended up being decent and crow being served.

 

[tearsintherain]

are all of you in Europe? afaik the movie doesn't open until Friday, July 15th in the USA (late night July 14th showings) and I think movie reviews are embargo'd until then as well.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Well the argument is that it didn't have to be even with the current cast. Much like how Oceans 11 was not rebooted but it will be Daniel Ocean's sister played by Bullock.

50 million is an absolute travesty situation. The marketing for this movie is more than that according to Collider.

As for the anti-reboot crowd I know it may suck to see reboots but they doesn't exactly diminish the original. It is nothing more than a missed opportunity if they fail to meet the expectations of fans.

Ocean's 11 was a remake

 

[Blablurn]

Gonna be hard for this movie to make serious bank without China.

 

[Zolo]

Gonna be hard for this movie to make serious bank without China.

Why isn't it getting released in China?

 

[kswiston]

Deadline reported that tracking on Ghostbusters is currently $35-41M opening weekend.

 

[NomarTyme]

Deadline reported that tracking on Ghostbusters is currently $35-41M opening weekend.

Goddamn.

 

[CalamityPixel]

Deadline reported that tracking on Ghostbusters is currently $35-41M opening weekend.

Yikes.

No way they are making their money back.

 

[tearsintherain]

Why isn't it getting released in China?

China only allows 30 Hollywood movies a year and more importantly it has a strict rule that doesn't allow ghosts in movies due to cult/superstition issues - Crimson Peak and one of the Pirates of the Carribean couldn't be released there for example.

The chinese box office surpassed the US box office in receipts last year, for the first time.

 

[Saucycarpdog]

Deadline reported that tracking on Ghostbusters is currently $35-41M opening weekend.

I'm thinking around $41 million. Not super terrible, but probably won't be getting a sequel.

 

[Hazelhurst]

Unless this movie gets good word of mouth, a la Bridesmaids, it will bomb.

 

[BassForever]

Her character was the best thing about the trailers.

I wouldn't be surprised if this movie ended up being decent and crow being served.

Is decent enough to serve crow though? And decent in who's eyes? Ghostbusters is considering an all time classic comedy film and any reboot was going to face extreme pressure from fans even before the all female casting. If reviews come out saying "it's decent but not as good as the original" I'm not sure if anyone gets served crow. This is doubly the case if reviews say "if you like McCarthy/female comedies you'll like this, but if you want another Ghostbusters the humor isn't for you" then what?

Besides the "manbabies" who started crying the instant the remake was announced/female cast confirmed likely aren't going to see it anyways or will hate it regardless of how good it actually is.

 

[KidGalactus]

Ocean's 11 was a remake

I think Vinland is talking about the upcoming version:

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/30/sandra-bullock-oceans-eleven

Part sequel, part reboot.