Former EA, Xbox leader encourages the industry to learn from Asmongold and his audience

Should the industry learn from Asmongold and his audience?

  • Absolutely

    Votes: 78 67.8%

  • Absolutely not

    Votes: 37 32.2%
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Kacho said:
I wish he elaborated on this.}
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Asmon usually reacts to videos, and because he is popular, he brings issues to the masses. He makes comments, and his chat may or may not agree with him.






So on and so forth. People who hate on this dude are just too insecure. He just, how do you say it... "signal boosts" issues that gaming media/games"journalists" don't report or are too niche/closer to game development
 
ChorizoPicozo said:
. People who hate on this dude are just too insecure. He just, how do you say it... "signal boosts" issues that gaming media/games"journalists" don't report or are too niche/closer to game development
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Well... For what is worth i think people have every right to "hate on him" or choose to never watch him.
I rarely -if ever- watch streamers (and I mean ANY streamers, of ANY quality) myself. At most the occasional clip catching my attention for its title on Youtube.

Too bad that's not the question of the thread. The topic here isn't if people should watch Asmongold more (not my fucking business, frankly) but if the INDUSTRY should pay attention to what him and his audience have to say (about new announcements, releases, trailers, etc).
And the answer is "Yeah, they fucking should, if they want to have the pulse of what the Average Joe out there has to say outside of bubbles like ResetEra and Twitter".
 
ChorizoPicozo said:
Asmon usually reacts to videos, and because he is popular, he brings issues to the masses. He makes comments, and his chat may or may not agree with him.






So on and so forth. People who hate on this dude are just too insecure. He just, how do you say it... "signal boosts" issues that gaming media/games"journalists" don't report or are too niche/closer to game development
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I like how everyone criticized Diablo Immortal and Blizzard for "not understanding what consumers want" and yet the game was a huge it. Sometimes veteran companies understand more about the market than youtubers.
 
Angry_Megalodon said:
When chuds Chads speak, people listen. If a chud Chad grunts, devs frantically start debugging. Pronouns are removed at the snap of our fingers.

Respect.
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Stop using chud, its derogatory to us Chads
 
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Sentenza said:
Well... For what is worth i think people have every right to "hate on him" or choose to never watch him.
I rarely -if ever- watch streamers (and I mean ANY streamers, of ANY quality) myself. At most the occasional clip catching my attention for its title on Youtube.

Too bad that's not the question of the thread. The topic here isn't if people should watch Asmongold more (not my fucking business, frankly) but if the INDUSTRY should pay attention to what him and his audience have to say (about new announcements, releases, trailers, etc).
And the answer is "Yeah, they fucking should, if they want to have the pulse of what the Average Joe out there has to say outside of bubbles like ResetEra and Twitter".
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I'm not saying that people shouldn't be able to "hate" this dude, I'm saying that people who "hate" him are insecure (especially people in media and game development). and as you pointed out and the links I posted. We can see that yes, developers should listen not only to him but the topics and issues gamers have with the industry/games.
 
Generic said:
I like how everyone criticized Diablo Immortal and Blizzard for "not understanding what consumers want" and yet the game was a huge it. Sometimes veteran companies understand more about the market than youtubers.
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It's not about that my dude.



It's about informing and educating the average consumer about the insidious "understanding" from veteran companies. It reflects common sentiments among gamers, which can actually be helpful for game developers, almost like a postmortem for games.





and I will tell you this: Devs actually watch these kind of videos.
 
Sentenza said:
I have no idea what you are even attempting to say here.
If you think I'm advertising his stream or advising people to watch Asmogold more, you are missing the mark by a fucking mile.
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Threads like these are common and they aren't started for discussion, just marketing off-site content. Streamers have had marketing agencies do it for them for many, many years now and it's all bait.
 
ChorizoPicozo said:
It's not about that my dude.



It's about informing and educating the average consumer about the insidious "understanding" from veteran companies. It reflects common sentiments among gamers, which can actually be helpful for game developers, almost like a postmortem for games.
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"Companies should listen to consumers" until said consumers want to buy microtransactions.

Protip: the people who criticized Diablo Immortal weren't the target audience of the game.
 
I collect VHS tapes said:
I think a lot of his base are still trying to come to terms with the fact that he gave Avowed a positive review

so maybe not right now
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A good game is a good game. There are a lot of stinkers out there that have nothing to do with being woke. Avowed is at least doing it right in regard to giving people options and not forcing the subject.
 
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I collect VHS tapes said:
I think a lot of his base are still trying to come to terms with the fact that he gave Avowed a positive review

so maybe not right now
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To err is human, to forgive divine. He made up with Elon so I can forgive him for suckin Avowed off and giving it pleasure during a critical moment of its intended humiliation.
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They want the video games industry to listen to some annoying youtuber that lives in his mom's basement? Can't wait for social media to go away.
 
El Muerto said:
They want the video games industry to listen to some annoying youtuber that lives in his mom's basement? Can't wait for social media to go away.
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Social media isn't going away anytime soon. The industry is always evolving and so is the way people discuss games online. Personalities like Asmon have tremendous influence these days and people will gravitate towards the people who they agree with.

Hundreds of thousands tune in to hear what he's talking about every day. If a lot of the content he's making is calling out the industry for various reasons and those people unanimously agree with him, how can any studio/publisher continue to ignore it if their main goal is sell as many games as possible? Most devs probably don't want their game to be the next Concord or Veilguard.
 
After listening to him for awhile I'd say %70 of what he says is unique and special but his language falls so hard towards the people who don't share his wealth and other characteristics, he sometimes talk shit and admit he did the wrong thing but I don't find it reasonable to apply facts on every living being and then say see I told you, he's not seeing the bigger picture that people are not the same. From my pov my opinion on him is that he's the polar opposite of mentors. Some wise youtubers call him he's no one and I agree with them.
 
His videos get hundreds of thousands to millions of views and there are multiple videos every day. Yeah, they probably should pay some attention to a person that has the eyes and ears of that many people. He's not just playing games for people to watch. He's reacting to videos, news articles, industry drama, etc and speaking to them about things he likes and doesn't like. They may or may not agree with him, but they're watching, listening and commenting. That's a whole lot of feedback on a given topic.
 
El Muerto said:
They want the video games industry to listen to some annoying youtuber that lives in his mom's basement? Can't wait for social media to go away.
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Unfortunately, it isn't just social media. It's simply the way things are nowadays. When gaming magazines began fading into obscurity, gaming websites, forums, and blogs started to take their place. Many years later, a lot of these platforms have come and gone, but many still remain. Over time, things continued to evolve even further, and streamers and content creators filled that same—or similar—void for a lot of people. Their viewership grew steadily to the point where advertising and marketing began to be done through them, and this continues to this day.

The content people consume is subjective, like many things in life. Asmongold is one of the larger streamers that many people tune into, and for whatever reason, they genuinely care about his opinions and what he has to say. He covers a wide range of topics, and while he's not for everyone, he holds significant influence. He also seems to have a large community that often agrees with much of what he says. I've heard him share some decent opinions, but I've also heard him express views I don't agree with at all.

So, whether people like it or not, it's important for developers and studios not to disregard his content and feedback. It's crucial to keep your ear to the ground, and when a significant amount of feedback comes from one source, you shouldn't completely turn your back on it.
 
1. Companies should listen to customers but not about how to run a business, in 99.9% cases customers has zero knowledge about that
2. Companies should listen to all customers and not just bubble astroturfers those are very loud to their opinion
 
Kacho said:
Social media isn't going away anytime soon. The industry is always evolving and so is the way people discuss games online. Personalities like Asmon have tremendous influence these days and people will gravitate towards the people who they agree with.

Hundreds of thousands tune in to hear what he's talking about every day. If a lot of the content he's making is calling out the industry for various reasons and those people unanimously agree with him, how can any studio/publisher continue to ignore it if their main goal is sell as many games as possible? Most devs probably don't want their game to be the next Concord or Veilguard.
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That's all well and fine, but can we have better representatives than greasy, dirty roach babies?
 
Kacho said:
Not my call. He built an audience organically by covering topics others wouldn't. Maybe Jim Sterling will reinvent himself again.
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Jim on a downtrend. I dont think he ever hit 1M subbers, but I'm pretty sure he was at around 900k at one time. He's now down to 737k.
 
Most of the stuff he says in his videos and his followers comments are just basic common sense stuff, but in today's world of extreme mental illness, common sense seems to trigger a lot of people.
 
Speaking of triggered people, it seems like Jaffe made a video about how some random trans person being tortured killed by other LGBT people (who were known sex offenders and were not in prison) was somehow Asmongold's fault cause he made a video mocking the blue-hairs who showed up to a city council meeting to protest against their "genocide".



It's crazy how far gone Jaffe is. He says "Read the room" to asmongold without realizing that he's the one who isn't reading the room at all.
 
I would have said yes last year because it was mostly common sense stuff but man Asmon has been wilding out since he got banned around the Palestine stuff. He's definetly started to spiral the alt-right wormhole and there are probably more rational audiences to get the common sense feedback from. I would not really recommend him to anyone right now.

Also let's be real, it only takes a few people on the team to inject their bullshit into the project to sour it. A lot of devs are probably already painfully aware of what direction these projects should be taking.
 
Kronark said:
I would have said yes last year because it was mostly common sense stuff but man Asmon has been wilding out since he got banned around the Palestine stuff. He's definetly started to spiral the alt-right wormhole and there are probably more rational audiences to get the common sense feedback from. I would not really recommend him to anyone right now.

Also let's be real, it only takes a few people on the team to inject their bullshit into the project to sour it. A lot of devs are probably already painfully aware of what direction these projects should be taking.
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Yeah, after his comeback video I expected more measured commentary, but I don't watch his actual streams, so I don't know if it's a calculated thing where the clips he posts are ones he knows will generate the most rage and engagement.

That said, this person says developers should learn from him, but when someone asks what useful data points he found, he replied with this
 
I know people have a raging hate boner for Asmon here, mainly because he doesn't look like Henry Cavill. But his takes in the gaming sphere are something I usually tend to agree on, especially when it comes to the state of the industry as a whole right now. I don't watch his streams, but I might watch shorter clips if they come my way and usually he echoes a lot stuff that people say in this very forum.
 
Boss Mog said:
Speaking of triggered people, it seems like Jaffe made a video about how some random trans person being tortured killed by other LGBT people (who were known sex offenders and were not in prison) was somehow Asmongold's fault cause he made a video mocking the blue-hairs who showed up to a city council meeting to protest against their "genocide".



It's crazy how far gone Jaffe is. He says "Read the room" to asmongold without realizing that he's the one who isn't reading the room at all.
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Those dislikes... hahaha

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Boss Mog said:
Speaking of triggered people, it seems like Jaffe made a video about how some random trans person being tortured killed by other LGBT people (who were known sex offenders and were not in prison) was somehow Asmongold's fault cause he made a video mocking the blue-hairs who showed up to a city council meeting to protest against their "genocide".



It's crazy how far gone Jaffe is. He says "Read the room" to asmongold without realizing that he's the one who isn't reading the room at all.
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Asmons reaction vid to this was pretty good too. Jaffe is a fucking idiot. I agree with some here, I also like Asmon and tend to agree with his takes.
 
His long, dirty fingernails make me feel physically sick, to such an extent that I can't get past the YouTube thumbnail to watch his content.

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He and some youtubers have a large audience and I don't think those are against different opinions. People can mock or disagree all they want with them but it doesn't matter as they usually ok with people who criticizes. Thats the exact point right here and hence why would be a smart move to listen to them as much gamers as anybody else, hence why they make stream playing games.

This is a very different case with things like gaming journalism, that acts more like a "marginalizaed" crowd that paints themselves as sofisticated movie critics and heroes of gaming that can do no wrong.
 
Welcome to the new age of Games Media, when you get political mouthpieces like IGN and other outlets, Asmongold becomes the new beacon for in-your-face commentary. This is the result of what happens when gamers voices are ignored in favour of some idelogical nonsense.
 
It cracks me up that most of the time people can't come up with a single viewpoint of his to criticize and just resort to talking about his living conditons.
 
Boss Mog said:
Speaking of triggered people, it seems like Jaffe made a video about how some random trans person being tortured killed by other LGBT people (who were known sex offenders and were not in prison) was somehow Asmongold's fault cause he made a video mocking the blue-hairs who showed up to a city council meeting to protest against their "genocide".



It's crazy how far gone Jaffe is. He says "Read the room" to asmongold without realizing that he's the one who isn't reading the room at all.
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Imagine caring about these little internet muppets' drama. This is modern soap opera, I guess lol
 


I just posted this in the colin thread but wild to see asmonds comments on Greg and the current state of legacy "journalists"

I guess this is the new generation of gamers? In his chat.
 
HRK69 said:
There's so much to dislike about that ugly cunt that I don't know where to start
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You can hate him all you want but don't go on questioning other people for liking his videos. You ARE THE MINORITY here and you sound exactly like those woke retards trying to gatekeeping who we can listen to.
 
I like most of the videos I've seen from him. If anything, the worst parts are more presentation.

- his big cam shot takes up room and sometimes covers up what he's talking about in the bottom left corner

- he constantly cuts off and starts a clip he's commenting on

But he's got good avg Joe commentary on stuff and he's really good at answering streamer questions or comments on the fly. He's like a talk show host who can gab about stuff with little preparation. Love or hate him, that is a clever skill to have.
 
Loomy said:
Yeah, after his comeback video I expected more measured commentary, but I don't watch his actual streams, so I don't know if it's a calculated thing where the clips he posts are ones he knows will generate the most rage and engagement.
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It was largely his right leaning editors on youtube framing stuff that way for the last year or two but I think it went on long enough that it shifted his audience demographics to lean in that direction too. Between his demographics shifting and the current political climate he's either being more honest with his views or grifting. I think there's also a chance he's just malding about getting that 2 week ban and has become incredibly spiteful and overly sensitive to any critism. Either way I had to stop watching as the Nazi whitewashing and recent political coverage about how "based" everything was got to be too much.

I don't like woke preachy bullshit forced in to media in cringe ways. I also don't like biggots and nazis. I'm not sure how this has become a binary issue for a lot of people where you either have to be on one team or the other. Veilguard sucked so I better go sign up for the 4th Reich I guess?
 
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