Not at all , it's been almost 19 years since PlayStation & Nintendo made IMU's standard in there controllers while Xbox ignored it , it's been almost 12 years since PlayStation made the touch pad , visual & sonic feedback standard parts of their controller & now DualSense has added these little things like a standard mic & adaptive triggers at this point PS5 & Xbox Series should not be treated like they are the exact same platform when devs are in the creative process of making games.This is sarcasm, right?
You absolutely can blame gamepass for it.. once you get used to not buying games, thats how you live, maybe if something like GTA comes out or some universally praised game, you go the extra mile, but outside of that you just wait for the "eventually" gamepass release.I honestly think the XBox community are the primary reason Microsoft cannot compete and while it's Microsoft's fault as well, I blame the community more. They do not buy or support games and this has been going on well before Gamepass. Can't blame Gamepass for FF16's failure. Microsoft made some good decisions as well, yet it seems like the community just doesn't care.
Then again, Microsoft for years didn't have the most desirable exclusives, didn't do enough to set it apart from PlayStation and made other peculiar decisions as well and the Blizzard/Activision deal was probably the worst move in video game history which essentially destroyed the XBOX brand which lead to multiplatform games, layoffs, price increases, etc.
Lastly, brand loyalty I'm guessing. A lot of gamers do seem to want Sony to dominate because of familiarity, history, reputation and loyalty I suppose, but give PlayStation gamers some credit. If it wasn't for PlayStation, third party developers would most likely be SCREWED and would not make near as much money without Sony.
Not at all , it's been almost 19 years since PlayStation & Nintendo made IMU's standard in there controllers while Xbox ignored it , it's been almost 12 years since PlayStation made the touch pad , visual & sonic feedback standard parts of their controller & now DualSense has added these little things like a standard mic & adaptive triggers at this point PS5 & Xbox Series should not be treated like they are the exact same platform when devs are in the creative process of making games.
Some games use the features but it's mostly at the optional level but not built around the features . I've seen enough in the Astro Bot games to know that different types of gameplay features can be used to make new games .
Hang on you specifically said exclusives!Sorry, you are right, they are more than 25:
- Astro's Playroom
- Astro Bot (2024)
- Demon's Souls
- Destruction AllStars
- Returnal
- Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
- Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered
- Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales
- Marvel's Spider-Man 2
- Gran Turismo 7
MLB The Show 21MLB The Show 22MLB The Show 23MLB The Show 24- God of War Ragnarök
- Horizon Forbidden West
- Horizon Call of the Mountain
- Firewall Ultra
- The Last of Us Part I Remastered
- The Last of Us Part II Remastered
- Helldivers 2
- Rise of the Ronin (not really first party, but it's funded by sony)
- Stellar Blade
- Sackboy: A Big Adventure (developed by third-party but IP owned by Sony)
- Days Gone Remastered
- Death Stranding Director's Cut (not really first party, but it's funded by sony and back at the time, the IP was property of Sony)
- Death Stranding 2 On The Beach (not really first party, but it's funded by sony)
Edited, as MLB it's multi, lol. I didn't know that
So buying a Xbox right now is smart ?People are stuck in mid to late 2000s, not the smartest of the bunch
If you want to play games, why not?So buying a Xbox right now is smart ?
While I understand your position, and love my Dreamcast above most all other consoles, *SEGA* killed SEGA consoles.Sony killed SEGA consoles forever, so they must die.
Sure, but who started most of these?Hate to break it to you but Sony and Nintendo are guilty of most of the above as well.
Not Xbox?Sure, but who started most of these?
While I understand your position, and love my Dreamcast above most all other consoles, *SEGA* killed SEGA consoles.
It's just 4 titles though, what are you on about?Paid Xbox astroturfers were annoying to deal with 24/7 until the moment Xbox went third party.
Of course a zombie division tell me who has the most games and publishers between Sony and Xbox who has been giving there customers Hella value between Gamepass and PSN ???? And Xbox gross billions of dollars otherwise they would shut it down not forge ahead with new hardware and games ….Xbox is already a zombie division. By the standard Economic theory the very existence of Xbox Division is an abomination and skewers the market away from efficiency. Xbox doesn't make money and would normally go away on its own, but it is artificially kept around and thus, stops anyone else from taking a crack at it. Xbox need to go because it has not earned the right to live.
Not relevant.It's just 4 titles though, what are you on about?
lol... I made a thread about that. I still see this stupid thing when I fire up my Xbox.Well, considering how much they spam "treat others the way they want to be treated,"
Didn't Sony say they was only taking 1 title to PC before changing course and taking dam near all to PCIt's just 4 titles though, what are you on about?
Competition for a good and we need to buy Xbox products.
You might be equating people laughing at their mistakes and mocking their stupid decisions as wanting them to fail. Consumers want to support a corporation's product because it's good, not because they feel obligated to.
Was just a jest about the faithful being in denial. I'll get my coat.Not relevant.
Ah, my bad!Was just a jest about the faithful being in denial. I'll get my coat.
Not Xbox?
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Lets run through it for those at the back.
Paid online -
Xbox were not the first to offer paid online.
Forced microtransactions during the 360 era
What do you mean "forced" I'm not aware of being forced to buy anything. Wasn't Horse Armor widely regarded are one of the first MTX? So blame Bethesda. (you can't give Xbox credit for this just because they own them now, otherwise we have to give them credit for Skyrim etc as well.;
Online DRM
Xbox did not invent online DRM as far as im aware.
Pushing for the death of physical games
Inevitable regardless
Closure of great studios
Psygnosis, Evolution Studios say hello.
Constant lies
I'll give you this one.
I'm happy to be in the timeline where Windows Phone and Xbox is following it.Because Microsoft never enters a market with the intention of just competing. Their goal is always to monopolize a market and the moment they do they make Nintendo and Sony look consumer friendly.
Microsoft held back the generation again by not including gyro in their controllers. Stick aiming is outdated. So many games, including Microsofts bread and butter shooters, would benefit from having it.This is sarcasm, right?
Let me rewind so my comment isn't taking out of context: I was responding to the person who said it would only be worse for the PlayStation gamers if Xbox left . I see things way different Xbox has actually held back the industry when it comes to controllers inputs, IMU (Inertial Measurement Unit) accelerometers , gyros & other sensors that are in just about everything now besides Xbox controllers .So, if Xbox leaves completely you think devs will embrace these gimmicks and not just carry on as is and target PC as the lead platform?
Will be good to see. What is an IMU?
Not even Sony uses the touchpad properly. Its just a button now. Usually a map button.
Because there are actually people , I mean look at the amount here, who are more than "fans", they are Stan's. As I've said I've. EVER understood that mentality. I love video games. I don't care what harwdware it's on. I always get em all so I'm covered for whatever I want to play, or where a particular game might play or lol a bit better on one over the other, or simply where my friends are playing certain games.MS's Xbox is an American company and we need to keep jobs here in the US. For some reason everyone here wants MS to fail and make PS the only player in the console market. This would be extremely bad for everyone.
Also, Xbox gave us Xbox Live, GamePass and Halo. Without those, who knows where we would be.
Competition for a good and we need to buy Xbox products.
Xbox should take its own advice, because it treats me like a soulless revenue cow who doesn't care when their forced updates crash my computer mid-session and then force it into an endlessly-looping restart pattern. That's not how I want to be treated. And I have this sneaking suspicion they know this, and simply don't care.lol... I made a thread about that. I still see this stupid thing when I fire up my Xbox.
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Fired up my Xbox and was appalled to see this nonsense taking up space on my dashboard. I guess we can add this to the pile of things that make modern Xbox cringe and out of touch.
Does PlayStation do this too? I know Nintendo and Steam don't. Feels like every time I fire up my Xbox they're promoting some cringe social justice message, like a few weeks ago when it was all about Pacific Islanders. Seriously, try googling Pacific Islander + Xbox, PlayStation or Nintendo and see how different the results are.
Boy do I miss the 360 era. Remember when...
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Paid Xbox astroturfers were annoying to deal with 24/7 until the moment Xbox went third party.
But most of the games are on or coming to pc n playstationIf you want to play games, why not?
More to the story than just GP IMO. But I still completely agree with your argument. It's human nature to not buy cows when the milk is "free." I bet everyone on this forum knows someone who put off marriage that probably would not have 50+ years ago. And we probably all (or almost all) see less movies in theaters thanks to streaming. Sure I'll still see movies in theaters from time to time, but every single movie I am interested in now gets judged on the "pay for theater or wait for streaming scale."You absolutely can blame gamepass for it.. once you get used to not buying games, thats how you live, maybe if something like GTA comes out or some universally praised game, you go the extra mile, but outside of that you just wait for the "eventually" gamepass release.
Well Im not going so much to theaters because most movies has been shit.. hollywood is on its own downward spiral for some time now... but thats another conversationMore to the story than just GP IMO. But I still completely agree with your argument. It's human nature to not buy cows when the milk is "free." I bet everyone on this forum knows someone who put off marriage that probably would not have 50+ years ago. And we probably all (or almost all) see less movies in theaters thanks to streaming. Sure I'll still see movies in theaters from time to time, but every single movie I am interested in now gets judged on the "pay for theater or wait for streaming scale."