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An army of Brits led by Ted Kravitz holding his latest 8x10 signed Lewis photo.
AmaterasuOkami076
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From a team perspective, I'm not sure. I agree with your points and it's clear the boys won't listen when they're just told to be careful.
From a fan perspective, I'd be gutted and just see that they're very, very likely to win the championships anyway, let them race for the drivers title.
Honestly though, I can see team orders just being ignored and it ending relationships and contracts as opposed to controlling a one-two.
btw you should consider hamilton was a bit ahead on the outside, I don't see how that doesn''t call for late breaking from whoever was next to him in the inside.
That is if you want to win races
nature boy
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So more fireworks.
GrizzleBoy
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Nico ONLY ever even slightly turns his wheel as an immediate "oh shit!" reaction to him seeing Lewis turn, which only further proves his intention to run lewis right off the track and into the sausage kerbs that have been destroying peoples cars this weekend.
He even blocks off the entrance to the track when Lewis tries to rejoin.
The Incarnation
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ZanzibarBreeze
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They're into see the stewards right now. Have just gone in. Hamilton was called as well but complaint is still against Nico only for causing a collision. He's gonna get got here
He can use the TOTO defence- 'Mr brakes had failed, my steering was broken and the sun was in my eyes! I was lucky to finish the race!'
now Rosberg had time to think that? You know what, i'm gonna send him to the kerbs to force a DNF....sureeee buddy.
That is never the responsibility of the driver on the track.
Rejoining the track safely is 100% on the driver out of the track. So if there was a problem there it would be Lewis getting called by the stewards.
That would be hilarious if Nico actually used the Sky Sports fanboy arguments like Mercedes being very very mean or moral obligations. He could stay in the stewards room until tomorrow just using that quality material.
It's a great conspiracy theory like every #TeamLH conspiracy except for the fact that there isn't any banana kerb on that corner. Who cares about actually facts when you try to create a conspiracy after all?
JadedWriter
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You know Rosberg has been hung out to dry so often you'd think he'd know how to do it better by now.
nature boy
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Lewis under investigation as well or photoshop?
Well he's not being investigated for that, he's being investigated for continuing to drive with his front wing in pieces
that and causing a collision.
he doesn't have to leave room for someone who's left the track outside of just plain not driving into them.
100% if they had hit a second time Hamilton would have been called in to the stewards too
Perhaps Rosberg has lodged a complaint?Lewis under investigation as well or photoshop?
Business
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Rosberg did what he had to if he wants to be world champion. He didn't give up the inside and he had to box Hamilton as much as possible to the outside of T2 also thinking T3. Went slightly too long and as always when there's contact with Hamilton he got the shorter end of the stick, no matter who is inside or outside.
This is something I don't understand in the context of it is forbidden to rejoin the track dangerously from pits, which makes me think on track people has preference. I wonder what the rule says.
GrizzleBoy
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I said he fully intended to force Lewis off, and thats exactly what his onboard shows.
He NEVER even slightly turning his wheel till he saw Lewis coming over, at which point he was aiming to go to the edge of the track before turning in.
The only way for Lewis to make the turn in that instance is pretty much park up and wait for Nico to do a 90 degree turn on a dime or go off track.
And yes you better believe that drivers know exactly where the car breaking kerbs are.
Of course they have preference, but again: What is Hamilton supposed to do? He would have to stop the car - Rosberg KNOWS Hamilton is there, he KNOWS Hamilton has no other way but to get back on track that way and he decides to ignore that.
Just because you have track position doesn't mean that you can just get out of you car, punch the other drive in the mouth, get back in the car and then say "What?! I just defended my position!"
Thread proves that being an F1 fan doesn't necessarily mean you know much about racing.
If under attack and your corner entry is compromised, or you're not on a line that will allow you the best exit out of the corner you have 2 options:
Option 1: "Park" the car on the apex of the corner, preventing the "cut back" which ruins the advantage the attacking car would get by forcing you to defend, compromising your corner entry, while the apex still available to them. Allowing them a much better exit and much more momentum out of the corner which puts them in a position to pass you on the straight.
Option 2: Normal turn in from comprised line[you're still ahead as this point], using up most of the track on the exit putting the attacking car in a position to either (a) Back out of the move (b) Cause a collision (c) Run wide
Rosberg did neither of these things. He straight up refused to turn in.
If under attack and your corner entry is compromised, or you're not on a line that will allow you the best exit out of the corner you have 2 options:
Option 1: "Park" the car on the apex of the corner, preventing the "cut back" which ruins the advantage the attacking car would get by forcing you to defend, compromising your corner entry, while the apex still available to them. Allowing them a much better exit and much more momentum out of the corner which puts them in a position to pass you on the straight.
Option 2: Normal turn in from comprised line[you're still ahead as this point], using up most of the track on the exit putting the attacking car in a position to either (a) Back out of the move (b) Cause a collision (c) Run wide
Rosberg did neither of these things. He straight up refused to turn in.
go clean you glasses bro. Want to see a clear ill intend? go check schumacher vs villeneuve.
Tells a lot about his lack of awareness or honesty too.
So what? It would be a complete clusterfuck if drivers on the actual track would have to give position or worry about drivers outside the white lines. There are limits and if you are outside them, you have to rejoin the track safely even if it means having to halt to a complete stop for 20 seconds like it happens sometimes on racing starts. Just because Lewis "has" to join the track, it doesn't mean everyone else has to give him a red carpet to rejoin.
In this case it would be a double eff you if Lewis crashed into Nico rejoining because he was outside the track due to Nico's dirty driving but it would still be Lewis's 100% responsibility if he touched Nico while rejoining.
Lewis under investigation as well or photoshop?
It's probably because of the overtaking Nico under yellow flags. The onboard shows he did it but Nico's car was damaged so he should be cleared very quickly. However he didn't actually slowed down enough until the braking zone which could cause him some issues. It would be a farce to give him a penalty though.
He's contractually obligated it would seem like since it was so blatant
GrizzleBoy
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In a vacuum, sure.
When you've blocked someone from turning in, run them wide and then blocked them from reentering, it becomes something different.
100% what I wanted to say.
Agreed
Mastah
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Remember when Manors were 2-4 seconds slower than the second slowest car last year and some people were saying why they even bother with racing in F1?
That's why you should never rule anyone out, it's Formula 1 racing and anything can happen. What a great result by Pascal and whole Manor team, to achieve that much in 12 months of time is amazing achievement.
Hopefully Sauber can do similar turnaround with new investment, because we know from 2012 or 2013 they know their stuff.
That's why you should never rule anyone out, it's Formula 1 racing and anything can happen. What a great result by Pascal and whole Manor team, to achieve that much in 12 months of time is amazing achievement.
Hopefully Sauber can do similar turnaround with new investment, because we know from 2012 or 2013 they know their stuff.
Formula E site is working, but there is no stream, only Youtube video, which is blocked from my country
Edit: Their old site has working stream
Edit: Their old site has working stream
Frankfurter
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You are jumping to conclusions imo. Nico most likely braked very, very late. At that point he made have decided to run Lewif off the track or he might just as well have realized that he can't get the corner that way and therefore needs a couple more meters of going straight.
Yeah looks like something from the 90s
Regardless...it shows that he either thinks or wants it to be Lewis' fault. Which is interesting. I was expecting him to say that he had understeer due to break problems.
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