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AHAHA of course not.

Japan and Austin 2015 were innocent mistakes.

Japan was Hamilton being entitled to the racing line and merely following through. ROS tried to hang on, but there was never going to be an overtake around the outside there. ROS never knows when to back out - he did the same in Canada this year and it cost him dearly.

As for Austin, it was wet and with full tanks, Lewis understeered into ROS, but still tried to make the corner, as opposed to ROS today who, it seems from onboards, did not have intention to do so.
 
From Sky F:
17:56
The chequred flag fell at the end of the Austrian GP three hours ago.

And still we wait for news on the Nico Rosberg investigation and what changes, if any, will be made to the race result.
 

Orbis

Member
I heard a 10 second penalty and a reprimand from.. sources. And yes, 10 seconds would have no effect on the result.
 
SKy F1:
18:00
It's not official yet but the first word in the press room is that Nico Rosberg has been given a reprimand for finishing the race with a damaged car but a ten-second timed penalty for causing the crash with Hamilton.



hmmmmmmm

10s penalty would change nothing at all to final result as ricciardo was more than 10s behind him.
 

Orbis

Member
The funny thing about this combination of penalties is.. the 10 seconds has no effect on his position, but they could've used the second penalty to actually affect his result. As is happens they have decided to leave things be.

To be fair, Nico is now officially at fault and he lost a race win to Hamilton, so he has been penalised enough I guess.
 

dEvAnGeL

Member
I was on rosberg side for this year title but what a dick move he put on lewis man, hard to defend that one, now kinda hoping lewis steals the title again
 
Japan was Hamilton being entitled to the racing line and merely following through. ROS tried to hang on, but there was never going to be an overtake around the outside there. ROS never knows when to back out - he did the same in Canada this year and it cost him dearly.

You need to the race again, Rosberg earned the space and Hamilton doesn't care. They were side-by-side.

And why do you think Hamilton was entitled to the space today and Rosberg wasn't?


As for Austin, it was wet and with full tanks, Lewis understeered into ROS, but still tried to make the corner, as opposed to ROS today who, it seems from onboards, did not have intention to do so.

Hamilton deliberately misses the apex by a mile to make sure Rosberg doesn't overtake him.



Results are in:

Formula 1 ‏@F1 3m3 minutes ago
Rosberg given a 10s penalty & 2 penalty points for last-lap incident. #AustrianGP result does not change. More soon


Total BS.
 

frontieruk

Member
You need to the race again, Rosberg earned the space and Hamilton doesn't care. They were side-by-side.

And why do you think Hamilton was entitled to the space today and Rosberg wasn't?




Hamilton deliberately misses the apex by a mile to make sure Rosberg doesn't overtake him.



Results are in:




Total BS.

That's how you view it, the stewards at each of the races obviously had a different view.
 

hadareud

The Translator
You need to the race again, Rosberg earned the space and Hamilton doesn't care. They were side-by-side.

And why do you think Hamilton was entitled to the space today and Rosberg wasn't?




Hamilton deliberately misses the apex by a mile to make sure Rosberg doesn't overtake him.



Results are in:




Total BS.

It's a conspiracy.

They're so mean to the gentleman cunter :(

edit: racer. I meant racer.
 

tomtom94

Member
Stewards would probably have punished Rosberg a lot more harshly had it been Hamilton who came off worse. As it stands, the penalty is basically just "yup, we did notice that, and no, you didn't get away with it."

Rosberg still in the lead by 11 points though!
 
Stewards would probably have punished Rosberg a lot more harshly had it been Hamilton who came off worse. As it stands, the penalty is basically just "yup, we did notice that, and no, you didn't get away with it."

Rosberg still in the lead by 11 points though!

Except he literally got away with it. Kept his lead in the WDC, kept his position in the race. Nothing was lost.

He was given a penalty, that does not result in any penalty o_O
 
Rosberg handed 10-second time penalty



Nico Rosberg has been handed a 10-second time penalty for his crash with Lewis Hamilton in the Austrian Grand Prix.

The Mercedes pair made contact with each other on the final lap of the Red Bull Ring race as Hamilton attempted a pass around the outside of Rosberg at Turn 2.

Rosberg, who had brake problems, ran too wide and ended up damaging his front wing in the incident.

He limped home to finish in fourth place while Hamilton took victory.

The incident was put under investigation, and the stewards deemed Rosberg was at fault, giving him a 10-second time penalty that allowed him to keep fourth position.

The stewards said: "Having taken note of the extensive evidence given by both drivers and the video and telemetry data, it was apparent that Car 44 (HAM) was in front of Car 6 (ROS) – i.e. more than fully alongside – and that the driver of Car 44 could have clearly made the turn (T2) on the track, if not for the resultant collision.

"Car 6 did not allow Car 44 'racing room' and hence the driver of Car 6 was responsible for the collision."

The championship leader was also awarded two penalty points for the accident and a reprimand for not having stopped while his car was damaged.

"The driver continued on the track with a damaged car spreading debris and with the front wing detached" but recognition of extenuating circumstances, that he slowed down and tried to mitigate risk to other drivers and cars."

So as long as you don't collide you can knock someone off track. Brilliant.
 

Tempy

don't ask me for codes
Rosberg was clearly in the wrong. Not sure why some are still debating this. He messed up his own race.
 

FuturusX

Member
At least lie and say that you had brake problems that caused severe understeer, he sounds like delusional Gaffer spouting that nonsense.
 

Chris R

Member
Mercedes needs to make it a little less obvious when they try to screw Hamilton. That tire strategy was absolute garbage and so was the first pit stop.

And a hearty LOL at Nico's "break heat issue" on the final lap and him saying Lewis "turned in" on him. Kinda bummed that Nico didn't finish 3rd, I wanted some of that Austin stew room action again.
 

John_B

Member
Right, no point in arguing with #blessed fanboys.
Hamilton got a ton of shit for the move back in 2015. However if you look at the onboard you can see Hamilton is steering left, his wheels are pointed left, but his car is still going straight. He even came on the radio afterwards and said he had understeer. He would also very likely have been penalized for causing a collision had it happened.
 

Ryne

Member
Must be great to claim fanboyism when things don't go your way.

Hell, I would have pegged this as a racing incident, but to claim that the move Rosberg made is fair is as "fanboy" as it gets.
 

Chris R

Member
Must be great to claim fanboyism when things don't go your way.

Hell, I would have pegged this as a racing incident, but to claim that the move Rosberg made is fair is as "fanboy" as it gets.

It would have been a racing incident if Nico even hinted that he was going to turn and follow the circuit instead of driving straight off to block Lewis.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
I don't like watching highlights as I can't follow along in this thread.

Good result for Hamilton but I don't understand why they kept him out so long before the first stop? You can't do a 'what if it rains' as that's a fools errand, and hoping to squeeze a one stop seemed unrealistic. If he'd stopped the same time as rosberg he would have come out in the lead and then just controlled it.
 

John_B

Member
Toto said they went for a one stop with Hamilton. It looked to not be working out and had to pit him before loosing too much time to Rosberg.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Toto said they went for a one stop with Hamilton. It looked to not be working out and had to pit him before loosing too much time to Rosberg.

I don't see why you'd risk that with the pole sitter and race leader. Maybe you'd try that with Rosberg to try and move him up through the field.


Shame it took so long for the results from the stewards, would have liked to have heard from toto or Lauda
 
Hamilton can take this championship but it will be more difficult than previous years. He caught up after Monaco and Canada, lost a bit in Baku but is now within striking distance again after spooking Rosberg into a professional foul. Maybe this year's car isn't quite doing it for him and he will have more races where he's behind Nico. But Nico is definitely prone to errors in driving and judgement and that's what will decide it.
 
Hamilton can take this championship but it will be more difficult than previous years. He caught up after Monaco and Canada, lost a bit in Baku but is now within striking distance again after spooking Rosberg into a professional foul. Maybe this year's car isn't quite doing it for him and he will have more races where he's behind Nico. But Nico is definitely prone to errors in driving and judgement and that's what will decide it.

Due to numerous ERS failures in Lewis' car at the beginning of the year, he's already on his last engine, so he will inevitably incur penalties at the end of the year.

If Rosbergs wins the WDC and Lewis drives well, it wont be on merit.
 

Orbis

Member
Due to numerous ERS failures in Lewis' car at the beginning of the year, he's already on his last engine, so he will inevitably incur penalties at the end of the year.

If Rosbergs wins the WDC and Lewis drives well, it wont be on merit.
Yeah that early season unreliability is going to haunt Hamilton this year. It's unfortunate but the same can still happen for Rosberg.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
Have to say this season has been a lot of fun so far, hope the rest of the season keeps delivering. That midfield being so close and the Mercedes shenanigans have been very entertaining.
 

Pryce

Member
Lol at Rosberg saying he did nothing wrong. Dude drove straight into Hamilton. It was clear as day.

Fucking Vettel problems. Sigh Ferrari.
 

tomtom94

Member
Hamilton at this point needs a winning streak on a par with 2013 Vettel. With the possibility of engine penalties later in the year and Rosberg pretty much guaranteed to win if Hamilton doesn't, nothing else will be good enough.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Hamilton at this point needs a winning streak on a par with 2013 Vettel. With the possibility of engine penalties later in the year and Rosberg pretty much guaranteed to win if Hamilton doesn't, nothing else will be good enough.

Two Mercedes 1-2s with Hamilton winning and he'd be leading the championship. Possible to do that before the summer break if the luck is with him.
 
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