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Formula 1 2016 Season |OT2| BUT GRO PER
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There was also that time Rosberg was about to be overtaken by Hamilton in Canada but after locking up simply cut the last two corners and was out ahead by more than a second. No penalty given.
If a driver is ahead going into the corner but cuts it and is still ahead it is pretty hard to calculate the what ifs. Design the corners so that you can't gain time by cutting them.
If a driver is ahead going into the corner but cuts it and is still ahead it is pretty hard to calculate the what ifs. Design the corners so that you can't gain time by cutting them.
I know. That's why I linked to a video of his move against Raikkönnen in Spa...
Guess Hamilton deliberately missed the corner (just like Max), but not to gain an advantage (unlike Max), but to keep as far away from a possible collision.
they don't have to broadcast it if they feel like it's too much.
The Radio is intended for communication between the team and the driver. I'm sure there have been worse things said in the past. Bernie has been less strict with cursing on TV the last 3-4 years.
64bitbros
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LMAO
nature boy
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Stewards shouldn't promote the "I might get away with driving off-track to keep my position".
Don't stay on track and keep your position? Instant penalty.
And yes that should be applied to Hamilton. Rosberg was knocked out track though.
PdotMichael
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Verstappen was so fucking slow before that chicane it was some bullshit move to get Ricciardo ahead of both.
Fox Mulder
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Lewis got away with it because of shit driving at the back bringing out the vsc. Having to serve a 5 second penalty at his stop would have hurt him.
I doubt he would have got one anyways as it would have ruined the points race.
I can see them giving a reprieve to Vettel in the Ricciardo incident because there's an argument to be made that Vettel never should have been in that position to begin with.
(And also because this whole thing is already so messy and the stewards can seemingly do whatever they want with the rules)
(And also because this whole thing is already so messy and the stewards can seemingly do whatever they want with the rules)
They can't find anyone better to present the whole damn thing, the brought in DiResta, so I'm gonna have to say no.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Braking on grass is a fucking stupid idea.
At least we agree some (most) of the stewards decisions have been awful and f1 is becoming a judge sport, or rather an "am I popular with today's stewards" contest.
How is not gaining an advantage making a mistake and not losing places especially at the start of the race.
Oh look, the guy in front made a mistake... let me slow down so I beat him fair and square.
64bitbros
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It might be... you know.... tactical?
Ted reporting that Todt was watching the race and think Vettel could be in huge amounts of shit. That's why Arrivabenne was trying to calm him down over the radio.
They're always more lenient at the start. I remember a German GP recently where half the grid went off the road and made overtakes.
Yup, try it even in a video game with no assists and see what happens.
They're always more lenient at the start. I remember a German GP recently where half the grid went off the road and made overtakes.
Yup, try it even in a video game with no assists and see what happens.
PdotMichael
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The problem is that leaving in track shouldn't end in just not gaining anything but it should punish the driver in a not race ending way
Waldo Lydecker
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Oooooh problems could be arising for Vetbitch according to Sky. Jean Todt is supposedly not happy with his language to Charlie.
PdotMichael
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It's dangerous behavior.
If Lord Spanky (Mosley) was still around, he would be excluded from championship on the spot
Fox Mulder
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It's disrespecting the authority of an official, and isnt tolerated in most sports.
nature boy
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Meh, Todt will order him to do some Drive Safety promo and it'll be over
Bitch Pudding
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That's the same kind of "tactical" like, let's say parking your car right on the middle of the track when you're in the lead on the very last minute of qualifying in Monaco.
Advantage as in time-advantage... Hamilton rather gets a penalty than a possible collision.
To be clear, I don't think Ham's intent was to gain 'seconds' but to keep his car in the running (which is actually the biggest advantage you can have)
Rosberg would have never overtaken him anyway. He was definitely too far back (even before Hamilton missing the apex and lolcya'ing across the grass).
Let's not also forget that Rosberg himself cut the corner (albeit to a lesser extent) due to his kiss with Max.
64bitbros
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Not gaining an advantage? Hamilton won SECONDS in the first minute of the race. How is that not an advantage?
W.e. We all know Charlie deserves to be called out.
Mohonky
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Generally speaking, the first corner of every GP has cars running off the track all the time, so they probably dont jump on it as much. They look at a lot of things though, sector times, whether the driver could reasonably have made the corner etc.
Terbinator
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Won seconds? The VSC was live the next sector lol. There was 0 advantage for the first 4/5 laps.
If they have a problem with Charlie they can talk about it, not go on a swearing spree.
Terbinator
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Not sure if ROS is salty or just can't pull off smarmy/sarcasm properly in the Sky interview.
Nico saying Lewis didn't deserve a penalty on Sky. He was watching the start and the Sky reporter tried to put words in his mouth :lol
He's clearly salty about Max, but still happy he's winning the championship it seems.
He's clearly salty about Max, but still happy he's winning the championship it seems.
YO, When you go off the track, you are suppose to lose time....... but No... It was hamilton... the golden grow boy.
Rosberg seems pretty punchy, funny and relaxed in his interviews. Even made a joke when he realised he got the cap for first place. Haven't seen this behaviour from him in quite a while. Winning a Championship would probably take such a huge amount of pressure from him that working with Lewis would get a lot easier in the future.
I have seriously no idea where from that interview you got "salty" from? o0
I have seriously no idea where from that interview you got "salty" from? o0
Really warming up to Nico lately. Guy is being really reasonable.
Fox Mulder
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I think he was being a bit sarcastic though.
Lol you think they haven't? lol
Business
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But he did win seconds. He should have lost time and probably position by rejoining the track ASAP, but he not only didn't get pushied by his own mistake, he benefited from it.
That there was a VSC later is not relevant.
So then it is okay to call him out with some f-bombs while he is doing exactly what you are calling him out for? Sure.
His reaction to watching the start was "wait, how did he get away with that?!?".
PjotrStroganov
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Funily enough, I think that Vettel and Verstappen in one team would have been an awesome match up.
YO, he started slowing down and then the VSC started followed by the actual SC. Rosberg also failed to lose time in the same corner to Max. But let's not let facts get in the way.
He seemed more annoyed with Max though.
PdotMichael
Banned
Yes
Lionel Richie
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Man if after watching Max being a huge asshole in the last few laps you even need to ask what did he pull there's nothing I can say to convince you, so let's just agree to disagree. Also, Schumacher pulled some unjustifiable bullshit in his days, but he also won 7 WDCs so let's wait and see if Max gets anywhere near that level before comparing them.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Ah, so we finally hit the root of your argument.
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