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[G-Unit]

So then it is okay to call him out with some f-bombs while he is doing exactly what you are calling him out for? Sure.

Yes when you are a fucking 4 time world champion and you know your shit. If it was us? not a chance.

 

[64bitbros]

Won seconds? The VSC was live the next sector lol. There was 0 advantage for the first 4/5 laps.

True. But incidents need to be judged on their own. That the VSC nullified the advantage does not change that.

 

[Aiii]

Yes

Try that in any other sport and see if you are allowed to finish the match or get away without a huge fine or a ban.

 

[Terbinator]

But he did win seconds. He should have lost time and probably position by rejoining the track ASAP, but he not only didn't get pushied by his own mistake, he benefited from it.

Seconds to who, the person behind him who also went off? He's got a massive lock-up going into the corner which is already and issue then goes over the grass and collects dirt.

That there was a VSC later is not relevant.

Except it is as much as all the other factors affecting the stewards decisions are.

I have seriously no idea where from that interview you got "salty" from? o0

Maybe it's his new found fun or realism of winning the championship coming across as fake.

True. But incidents need to be judged on their own. That the VSC nullified the advantage does not change that.

What incident? There isn't one.

 

[G-Unit]

YO, he started slowing down and then the VSC started followed by the actual SC. Rosberg also failed to lose time in the same corner to Max. But let's not let facts get in the way.

shhh *let's ignore the fact one tried to hit the corner and one didn't(a mistake), vs a corner one collision.*

 

[Hasney]

And now Kimi so chilled out he didn't even know Hulk touched him or spun.

 

[JDB]

Meh, I don't think HAMs incident was that big of a deal considering the context.

 

[Xando]

And now Kimi so chilled out he didn't even know Hulk touched him or spun.

"Just regular vibrations of a Ferrari"

 

[Hasney]

True. But incidents need to be judged on their own. That the VSC nullified the advantage does not change that.

But that's never been the case in F1. Everything is taken into account.

 

[ElTorro]

Try that in any other sport and see if you are allowed to finish the match or get away without a huge fine or a ban.

I'm quite sure that he'll still get some fine for that.

It was entertaining, though.

 

[FuturusX]

Rosberg said it best on Sky F1.

"Hamilton arrived at the corner first and left first."

 

[PdotMichael]

Try that in any other sport and see if you are allowed to finish the match or get away without a huge fine or a ban.

That's nice.

If you only repeat your but but he is a person of authority argument then there is nothing to discuss anymore.

 

[Zaru]

In other news, this was the highest finishing position for Sauber all season (11th)

 

[ramparter]

Man if after watching Max being a huge asshole in the last few laps you even need to ask what did he pull there's nothing I can say to convince you, so let's just agree to disagree. Also, Schumacher pulled some unjustifiable bullshit in his days, but he also won 7 WDCs so let's wait and see if Max gets anywhere near that level before comparing them.

I dont understand that logic. Schumacher had the right to be an asshole because he won 7 wdc? Lmao...

 

[MauroNL]

 

[Hasney]

In other news, this was the highest finishing position for Sauber all season (11th)

Does that put them level with Manor now?

 

[Business]

Seconds to who, the person behind him who also went off? He's got a massive lock-up going into the corner which is already and issue then goes over the grass and collects dirt.

Except it is as much as all the other factors affecting the stewards decisions are...

Yes seconds to everyone else and seconds that he stuck with, what's so hard to get? Watch the start again.

https://streamable.com/19ka

 

[Bitch Pudding]

Concerning the Hamilton incident: He was in a fight for his position, he left the track due to a self-inflicted error, cut the track, came out of that fight with a couple of seconds (!) gained on P2.

Of course this needs to be punished, cause otherwise it signals it's okay if you leave the track after the start, as long as you allow the ones you were fighting with in the first corner to close the gap right afterwards.

I think Hamilton got away because the stewards were too afraid to have any impact on the ongoing championship.

 

[Zeknurn]

In other news, this was the highest finishing position for Sauber all season (11th)

Yeah, Ericsson pitted for mediums on lap 1 and went the rest of the race on them. Incredible drive by him and it's too bad he wasn't rewarded with points.

 

[Hasney]

More footage of Seb running, to the stewards now. He must be knackered.

Concerning the Hamilton incident: He was in a fight for his position, he left the track due to a self-inflicted error, cut the track, came out of that fight with a couple of seconds (!) gained on P2.

Of course this needs to be punished, cause otherwise it signals it's okay if you leave the track after the start, as long as you allow the ones you were fighting with in the first corner to close the gap right afterwards.

I think Hamilton got away because the stewards were too afraid to have any impact on the ongoing championship.

If you can show me a time that's ever been punished on the first corner in the recent history, then I'll buy it. It's always more lenient on the first corener.

 

[PatjuhR]

So, vettel already punished for changing direction while breaking?

 

[Aiii]

That's nice.

If you only repeat your but but he is a person of authority argument then there is nothing to discuss anymore.

What big point in your post consisting of three letters total was giving me anything new to discuss, exactly?

 

[sems4arsenal]

Vettel needs a massive penalty though, telling Charlie to Fuck off should be a massive no no.

 

[Psychotext]

Vettel should be fined on how he behaves on the radio tho. That is just way to much.

Funnily enough, I think this is the first time they've ever broadcast a direct attack on an official. New ground there for sure.

That said, all the drivers are always calling each other all the names under the sun. Even in practice (both Ricciardo and Verstappen have done it this weekend).

 

[Hasney]

So, vettel already punished for changing direction while breaking?

At the stewards now.

 

[Zaru]

Does that put them level with Manor now?

They handily beat manor in average finishing position, but that freak point Wehrlein managed in Austria is going to cost them millions.

 

[PatjuhR]

3rd belongs to Ricciardo right?

 

[PdotMichael]

What big point in your post consisting of three letters total was giving me anything new to discuss, exactly?

Who says I wanted to discuss that silly argument?

You are just reposting your one point anyway.

 

[ramparter]

Does that put them level with Manor now?

Manor have 1 point

 

[Igo]

Concerning the Hamilton incident: He was in a fight for his position, he left the track due to a self-inflicted error, cut the track, came out of that fight with a couple of seconds (!) gained on P2.

Of course this needs to be punished, cause otherwise it signals it's okay if you leave the track after the start, as long as you allow the ones you were fighting with in the first corner to close the gap right afterwards.

I think Hamilton got away because the stewards were too afraid to have any impact on the ongoing championship.

It is okay, and it's long been okay.

 

[Ennosuke]

3rd belongs to Ricciardo right?

To be fair, yes. I mean Verstappen caused all this with his bullshit, but Vettel did not defend correctly accoring to the new rules.

 

[olore]

I wonder who Horner will replace Verstappen with now that Vettel is non-plussed with yet another RB driver

 

[f0rk]

Concerning the Hamilton incident: He was in a fight for his position, he left the track due to a self-inflicted error, cut the track, came out of that fight with a couple of seconds (!) gained on P2.

Of course this needs to be punished, cause otherwise it signals it's okay if you leave the track after the start, as long as you allow the ones you were fighting with in the first corner to close the gap right afterwards.

I think Hamilton got away because the stewards were too afraid to have any impact on the ongoing championship.

Who should he have given the place to to avoid punishment? 2nd? 3rd? 10th? It was the first corner. He was slowing down, I'm not sure what else you would want him to do unless you think it's a good idea for half the field to have time penalties at the end of the race

 

[Aiii]

Who says I wanted to discuss that silly argument?

You are just reposting your one point anyway.

So you are not willing to engage the point and instead just call out me instead. You are being silly right now. If you don't want to discuss, then don't reply to a post or complain when you give nothing in return to warrant discussion.

You can't not provide a counterpoint and then complain the other person reiterates the point he made.

 

[Line_HTX]

https://streamable.com/poo4

I like how this link is poo4 with Vettel going Dikembe Mutombo.

That radio to Charlie though... Yikes.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

It is okay, and it's long been okay.

Well, it was okay if the driver had no other choice, like in to avoid an accident / no space left, something like that. We are now talking about the leader leaving the track and gaining a couple of seconds advantage. You won't find examples for this in recent F1 history because no one tried such a stunt yet. Probably thought they'd get punished for it.

 

[Terbinator]

Yes seconds to everyone else and seconds that he stuck with, what's so hard to get? Watch the start again.

There isn't anything to compare to so no, he doesn't.

What do you want him to do here, exactly? He can't keep his car in the middle of the road either mechanically or because then he'd cause a crash. He also can't stop and go in the run-off area as that would be dangerous given there is another 21 cars hurtling into a right hand turn behind him - accident waiting to happen.

 

[Chuck]

Did they give Danny the pojum yet?

 

[Hasney]

Well, it was okay if the driver had no other choice, like in to avoid an accident / no space left, something like that. We are now talking about the leader leaving the track and gaining a couple of seconds advantage. You won't find examples for this in recent F1 history because no one tried such a stunt yet. Probably thought they'd get punished for it.

2010 should be recent enough, they haven't updated the track leaving rules before then.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2gp4me_f1-german-gp-2010-bbc-part-1_auto

Did they give Danny the pojum yet?

Still in.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

Who should he have given the place to to avoid punishment? 2nd? 3rd? 10th? It was the first corner. He was slowing down, I'm not sure what else you would want him to do unless you think it's a good idea for half the field to have time penalties at the end of the race

5 Seconds penalty of course. Which I am sure is exactly what would have happened if there wasn't that VSC right afterwards.

 

[itsgreen]

5 Seconds penalty of course. Which I am sure is exactly what would have happened if there wasn't that VSC right afterwards.

You do realize that VSC = gaps are equal?

Either you give Lewis a penalty and give Max a penalty, or you give neither.

Max didn't have a bigger lead after his off track moment.

 

[Hasney]

Lewis exhaust temperature was crazy high and they had to get him to turn the car down and just manage it.

He doesn't have to use that engine again, does he?

 

[Igo]

Well, it was okay if the driver had no other choice, like in to avoid an accident / no space left, something like that. We are now talking about the leader leaving the track and gaining a couple of seconds advantage. You won't find examples for this in recent F1 history because no one tried such a stunt yet. Probably thought they'd get punished for it.

Canada GP 2014. Rosberg did the exact thing Hamilton just did mid race and nothing came of it.

This was the start where the stewards are very lenient and i'm honestly baffled people think it warranted an investigation or anything.

 

[Terbinator]

5 Seconds penalty of course. Which I am sure is exactly what would have happened if there wasn't that VSC right afterwards.

So why are you crying about it? Several events affected the outcome, stop getting caught up one part - that ultimately - didn't affect anyone's driving.

 

[PjotrStroganov]

5 Seconds penalty of course. Which I am sure is exactly what would have happened if there wasn't that VSC right afterwards.

Would have been a drivethrough. A 5 sec penalty would have changed nothing.

 

[Theorry]

Lol

 

[Zeknurn]

Ted just said that Hamilton's exhaust gas temperature was "through the roof" and he was told to turn down the power unit. It's generally an indicator of something being wrong with the power unit.

 

[Zaru]

 

[PdotMichael]

So you are not willing to engage the point and instead just call out me instead. You are being silly right now. If you don't want to discuss, then don't reply to a post or complain when you give nothing in return to warrant discussion.

You can't not provide a counterpoint and then complain the other person reiterates the point he made.

It's not your business which posts I quote.

 

[Terbinator]

Ted just said that Hamilton's exhaust gas temperature was "through the roof" and he was told to turn down the power unit. It's generally an indicator of something being wrong with the power unit.

Didn't he say it's due to the altitude difference?