StonedRider
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What a dramatic finish! If only Verstappen didn't change his tyres.
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Formula 1 Season 2020 |OT| Drive to Survive 2 - who drinks champagne from a shoe?
Mohonky
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Nothing to suggest he may not have had the same problem, if anything, the bigger question is why Merc didn't pit Hamilton; Bottas tyre failed, Sainz tyre failed, Verstappen had pitted, just flirting with danger not pitting Hamilton when they really didn't need to take the risk.
As a Hamilton fan man my heart stopped when I saw the Merc blow the tyre on Bottas, then I saw Verstappen pit and I was thinking ok, just pit Hamilton....man they took a risk that wasn't needed.
Will be interesting to see what it means for next week.
xrnzaaas
Member
Bottas and Sainz were complaining about vibrations before they had their tyre explosions. Lewis was pretty silent instead of his usual "my tyres are dead Bono" moan. But yeah, the team probably didn't react quick enough to Max's pitstop.
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hariseldon
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So tyres are exploding and next race at the same track they’re going with softer tyres. I look forwards to that.
Pirelli really are utterly shit - so many issues with them over the years and they absolutely do not help the racing at all.
Pirelli really are utterly shit - so many issues with them over the years and they absolutely do not help the racing at all.
StonedRider
Member
When Max pitted, Lewis already started his penultimate lap. Mercedes could've call him lap later, but it was useless for the fastest lap. Anyway, after Bottas tyre puncture and Max pitstop they could've played safe and change Lewis tyres just in case.
Lionel Richie
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Mercedes can win a race with probably 2 tyres. That being said, tremendous job by Hamilton to hang on. Probably the one time all season he'll be tested, but he did well.
Max not taking a knee and going for that second place over Bottas is IMO the story of the season. Dude's a gangster.
Max not taking a knee and going for that second place over Bottas is IMO the story of the season. Dude's a gangster.
StonedRider
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Mark Webber about Grosjean:
"I think Grosjean has a gross misunderstanding of what current Grand Prix racing is all about in terms of wheel-to-wheel combat"
www.planetf1.com
"I think Grosjean has a gross misunderstanding of what current Grand Prix racing is all about in terms of wheel-to-wheel combat"
Mark Webber: Romain Grosjean 'borderline out of his depth' | PlanetF1
With his antics at Silverstone labelled "very dangerous" by his rivals, Mark Webber has questioned whether Romain Grosjean knows how to race.
www.planetf1.com
The Scrivener
Member
Yuck, can't watch anymore until they fix the politics. Switched off the British GP and not watching anymore this season. I'm not a regular in this thread so I'll probably get ignored or laughed at, but Perez not being able to race because "he has COVID-19", Hamilton taking the knee, the poor disadvantaged guy he is, and no fans in the grandstand at Silverstone, makes me feel weird.
My dad said the same thing and I laughed, he's a lifelong fan but gave up this season because of all this, but now I get it, what's the point watching live sports anymore? What a joke.
My dad said the same thing and I laughed, he's a lifelong fan but gave up this season because of all this, but now I get it, what's the point watching live sports anymore? What a joke.
xrnzaaas
Member
This is not reddit, you're not going to be banned for speaking against blm propaganda.
The sad thing about politics in F1 is that the biggest star is the one making the push so obviously Liberty Media and Mercedes will bend the knee. At least Jean Todt isn't doing the same thing, but obviously this means that him and FIA will continue to be attacked by Hamilton and brainwashed "journalists". Same goes with other drivers that don't plan to submit. They will continue to be pressured in hopes that some of them will finally break.As for Sergio missing out, I've read that he developed some mild symptoms so I suspect it might take longer to get the virus completely out of his system. Hopefully he won't have any problems returning to perfect heatlth to be fit and competetive in F1.
Grosjean is still a very uneven driver even after all these years in F1. He can have great races and he can have horrible races and DNF's due to his dumb mistakes. I really don't know why Haas continues to renew his contract, maybe his salary is tiny and for a team like Haas paying a few mil to hire someone like Hulkenberg would be a big expense.
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Nicktendo_
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It's revolting how Hamilton is acting and how the sport and the media are enabling him.
I hate it too, but as a die-hard fan of the sport for 26 of my 33 years and having only missed a couple of races over that period, I'm not willing to simply drop it in protest. Maybe that's a poor reflection on me, but this is my sport. It is the one sport I am genuinely passionate about. It only makes me cheer for Max, Valtteri and the others harder. Hamilton won't keep winning forever, and the sport is always the most exciting when the dominant cars and drivers start to fade. Might take a couple of years, but I will savour it even more when it does eventually happen.
I hated Hamilton when he first came into F1 (I didn't like his attitude at all), but since he's been at Mercedes he'd really grown on me and converted me into a fan. He's undone all of that in the last two months and I don't think I've ever viewed him in such a negative light. He is simply unintelligent, arrogant and ignorant (perhaps unsurprising given his job), but it's starting to rub me the wrong way and I long for the day when he won't have it so easy.
The Scrivener
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Don't get me wrong, I love the sport. Will come back next year.
Fox Mulder
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McLaren running Merc engines In 2021 should be fun with Lando and Ricciardo.
Ferrari will suck, Redbull will disappoint, and Mercedes will still be a second ahead though.
AeonGaidenRaiden
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And he is the guy that financially helped the team out when they were about to drop. Stroll is not as good, its just that hsi dad now owns the company he will stay there but Perez is a way better driver for them. Lets see.
xrnzaaas
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Racing Point loses 15 points, gets €400k fine after Renault wins F1 protest
The Racing Point Formula 1 team has been reprimanded, docked constructors' championship points and fined 400,000 Euros after the FIA upheld Renault's protests against its brake ducts
www.autosport.com
It will be interesting what happens next. I don't think Racing Point will be able to redesign the brake ducts quickly... so potentially they're going to lose more points and have more fines?
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
Question is, is it a net win? Would they have got brake ducts of similar quality for 400k. If not, then they bought better brake ducts for a sensible price.
Business
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Penalty sounds like a joke. And it’s not even
only the ducts because the ducts and the rest of the car have to work in harmony, it’s really the whole car they saved the R&D on. The only issue with the ducts is (or so I understand) it’s a ‘hidden’ part so they can’t justify they copied it through photographs.
After this I don’t see how Alpha Tauri is not showing up with a Red Bull body next year, and so should other smaller teams.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
So.. Merc walk away with practice 2 while Vettel's engine fails. *yawn*
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
He sounds so fed up. Of course the engine’s buggered, like he’d expect anything less.
J-Roderton
Member
Sucks for racing point. Also for Perez. Not really a fan of the guy, but I’ve enjoyed seeing him on the track so far this season.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
The precedent is interesting and most people are sensibly predicting that you’ll see more clones, ie the two Red Bull teams. The bigger impact however will be teams actively working together and splitting costs, especially with the budget cap. Red Bull are especially well placed to do this as they own two teams rather than just having a loose association, so they can have one team handle the brakes and suspension say and the other handle the aero. Splitting development between two notionally separate teams will enable savings but more likely will see teams that can do it bypass the cost cap.
Can't decide
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I thoroughly enjoyed watching that session after work tonight. Hulk was smashing in great times all through qualy, well done to Danny Ric too.
Nice job by Bottas on a great performance as well.
I still can't get used to seeing Redbull fighting for position with the upper-midfield teams and Ferrari sitting in the slowest half of the grid.
Nice job by Bottas on a great performance as well.
I still can't get used to seeing Redbull fighting for position with the upper-midfield teams and Ferrari sitting in the slowest half of the grid.
xrnzaaas
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It would be nice if Checo & Hulk reunited while driving for Haas (assuming Seb signs with Racing Point), it would also mean Haas would stay in F1 for at least another year.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
They deserve better than that.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
That’s the sorry state of F1 - only a tiny number of seats worth having. I think Kimi’s spot will go to a Ferrari development driver, presumably whoever’s doing best in F2.
SaturnSaturn
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High iq championship move from Mick today to take out Schwartzman
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hariseldon
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Not watched F1 in ages - Verstappen is in beast mode.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
Glad I watched that one - a good fun race. Brilliant result, good to see the best driver on the grid get the win. The guy is a beast.
Mohonky
Member
It's interesting, Mercs biggest advantage is also their biggest weakness. The Merc has such downforce and works its tyres so well, but when the track temp goes too high the Merc just cant deal with it.
Do kind of feel for Bottas with the way the race unfolded, but another race where Hamilton pulls further from what is probably his biggest title rival so not complaing.
Good on Hulk, pity about that pit stop, what a waste.
Albon had some balls with those overtakes on the outside.
K.Mag what a fucking dick that move was hitting Latifi.
......and Vettel. Man he has totally checked out from Ferrari, he just doesnt give a fuck anymore. I wouldnt surprised if Ferrari put someone else in by the end of the year, that relationship is even more sour than when Alonso was leaving.
Do kind of feel for Bottas with the way the race unfolded, but another race where Hamilton pulls further from what is probably his biggest title rival so not complaing.
Good on Hulk, pity about that pit stop, what a waste.
Albon had some balls with those overtakes on the outside.
K.Mag what a fucking dick that move was hitting Latifi.
......and Vettel. Man he has totally checked out from Ferrari, he just doesnt give a fuck anymore. I wouldnt surprised if Ferrari put someone else in by the end of the year, that relationship is even more sour than when Alonso was leaving.
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hariseldon
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The problem with Bottas is that he’s a good boy. The engineer says pit next lap and like a good boy he does it. Notice how Max said no when his team said slow down? And Lewis questions decisions too - mostly it’s just whining but it is at least better than passively accepting what he’s given.
On Vettel, the spin was ridiculous but that one radio message - he’s absolutely had enough. I feel bad for him, he seems really just so fed up.
Lionel Richie
Member
A bit late, but man oh man Max is HUNGRY. Give him a car that's like 2/3 as good as a Mercedes and he'll make Hamilton his bitch.
And I'm looking forward to see my man Seb on rally or shit like that, just out of F1. This is not a dignifying way to go, he deserved better. Happy to see Leclerc racing well all things considered. Everyone on the current Ferrari team should be nuked out of existence, except Leclerc. He can stay. He's pretty good.
And I'm looking forward to see my man Seb on rally or shit like that, just out of F1. This is not a dignifying way to go, he deserved better. Happy to see Leclerc racing well all things considered. Everyone on the current Ferrari team should be nuked out of existence, except Leclerc. He can stay. He's pretty good.
J-Roderton
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Good race. Happy for Max.
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hariseldon
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Meanwhile we have Ricciardo describing his spin as a 'Seb Spin'. Tough times for Seb.
Business
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