Fortunately, the next Silent Hill games won't follow SHf's formula.

Good SH should be western style and not just any western style but back to the more interesting surreal theme of SH1 and SH3 which are the two best SH games.
 
analog_future said:
Ya'll complain about how everything's the same and no one takes risks and then bitch when someone tries to do something different.

Literally impossible to please.
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No Way Kg GIF by SHOWTIME Sports

The f is for fraud because it has more in common with Fatal Frame franchise and features soulslike combat design.

Revolutionary said:
I 100% agreed until last Tuesday when NeoBards proved they understood the assignment and blew away my expectations.
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These are the same dumbasses that ruined Devil May Cry HD Collection. They do not understand Jack shit about any franchise they are working with.
 
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analog_future said:
Ya'll complain about how everything's the same and no one takes risks and then bitch when someone tries to do something different.

Literally impossible to please.
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Except SHf isnt taking any risks. It just doubles down on what people never liked about SH games, the melee combat, and makes it worse. The location is hardly a "risk".
 
Surprisingly I'm gonna say Good!
Silent Hill F shines when it's being Silent Hill but that whole other stuff....yeah that ruin the game unfortunately.
I still love the way the game looks though.

And more I think about it the more it makes sense to me, the otherword in Silent Hill F should of been Silent Hill.
Why they didn't do that is beyond me.
 
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I personally really like SHf even more than Cronos but I don't mind seeing every SH being different from each other.

But people want similar experiences as SH 1-3 never going to get that since most of original creators of those games are long gone from Konami.
 
But what if I wanted more dumbed down Dark Souls in my SH?

Hell, make the next SH set in a fictional Victorian city with Lovecraftian shit and a saw blade and better combat and I am in. I don't care if its basically about marriage or some shit.

Okay I am going to level with you all.

I just want Bloodborne 2.

I am not picky on the how anymore. I don't care if the name of the game is misleading.
 
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The Cockatrice said:
Except SHf isnt taking any risks. It just doubles down on what people never liked about SH games, the melee combat, and makes it worse. The location is hardly a "risk".
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Half of the complaints about the game are that it doesn't take place in Silent Hill and therefore it's not a Silent Hill game. So I'd call that a risk.
 
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I didn't buy nor play this game yet, although being interested in it, but the single .gif I saw from a combat scene really took me off. I just screamed "jank" and "clunky". So what should I do ? Should I give it a go ? I do enjoy horror games, and loved Project Zero from KT to name one.
Maybe wait for a discount ?
 
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cireza said:
I didn't buy nor play this game yet, although being interested in it, but the single .gif I saw from a combat scene really took me off. I just screamed "jank" and "clunky". So what should I do ? Should I give it a go ? I do enjoy horror games, and loved Project Zero from KT to name one.
Maybe wait for a discount ?
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As someone who also enjoys Project Zero, I'd gladly take the jankiest moment of the first game plus the cringiest sections from Maiden of Black Water over anything from SHf.
 
cireza said:
Thanks for your comment. Care to elaborate what you didn't like ? In a Direct Message of you want.
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No worries. I'll just put everything in a spoiler:

- Overreliance on combat. There are dozens of late-game arenas where the game actually puts on-screen objective that says: "defeat all enemies" and doesn't let you to progress until you kill everything on screen.
- The actual combat is downright broken when fighting more than one enemy.
- The story is told in blunt, unsubtle and downright cringy matter. Everything is spelt out to you and the game actively tries to manipulate you how you should feel. No nuance or maturity in a game that claims to tackle mature and dark themes.
- You're expected to finish the game at least three times to see the full story.
- THIS BULLSHIT (no, this is not unlockable mode, this happens during your first playthrough):



- And personally, I didn't find it scary at all. Some of the monster design is actually Homecoming level of cheesiness, especially the monster which is just a pile of female breasts.
 
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^ Sounds like shit. The fact that it sold well tells me people are starved for good games, buying anything with some hype.
 
kizito said:
"Fortunately" ? Silent Hill f is excellent and I'm having a blast. While I'm happy they keep on experimenting, I wouldn't mind a Silent Hill f2 or similar.
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It's formula is also literally the exact same as the other games except for the combat (and the NG+ requirement for the ending, which is annoying).

SHf is great
 
Naked Lunch said:
Silent Hill 1-3 will forever be the only good games in the series.
Only the original creators understood the franchise.
We have 25 years of proof at this point.
Accept it.
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Yeah...hearing a dev say each one will be different and an experiment isn't good news because then why call it Silent Hill? You've lost all the flavor of what makes it a SH game....oh but you need the NAME to capitalize on! I get it now.
 
isn't the story writer of SHf a famed one? How come the story is told in such a damn bad way? I'm reading notes after notes about this person hating that person and wants to kill the same person a hundred times, enough already! I get the point, don't need to repeat that again and again! yeah i know this girl is jealous of that girl already, don't need to repeat a thousand times! the so called domestic violence is a nothing burger, the writer doesn't know shit about domestic violence!! Hinako doesn't look like anyone who has experienced that horror! Look at her clean clothes and clean face and have no injuries whatsoever! Bring back Heather(now she looks like an abused character)!

and then the scene where Hinako drinking and sipping a bowl of water with that piece of shit guy 3 to 5 times for 5 mins, really boring scenes! Or Hinako acting all shock and horror at almost at the end where she saw much more horrible things much earlier. the story doesn't make any sense! and that piece of shit guy? Let me destroy him! I have just finished all the dumb puzzles now(yeah i read a guide of course lol), so should be near the end? I'll fucking destroy this predator/groomer/sack of shit guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! don't tell me i've to play a 2nd or 3rd playthru to do that!!!!!!!!!!!! not gonna play the new game plus!!!!!!!!!!!

This game made RE and FF games geniuses of writings. For horror games I only play RE and FF, SH gets totally downgraded after this!
 
Project EVE said:
This game made RE and FF games geniuses of writings. For horror games I only play RE and FF, SH gets totally downgraded after this!
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Yeah this story sounds like total J-cringe. The writer is some visual novelist so maybe the initial praise for the choice was biased by weebs and his gushing fans. Total cash grab with souls-like tacked on.
 
I've enjoyed every mainline SH in proportion to what each one brought to the table, but of course, I'm an original Trilogy purist, with Silent Hill 3 being my favorite.

This isn't news so much as reaffirmation. The classic elements that can't be broken won't: the exploration, the isolation, the mental obstacles, the Otherworld - but the transient elements will change. This is SH to a tee.

1 was the structure. 2 was the media darling. 3 was SH through a woman's perspective. 4 had the Ashfield Heights apartment and the holes. Homecoming was SH in a different place. Origins was an intentional throwback. Shatttered Memories was a retelling with a heavy focus on player initiative. Downpour had the rain elements. Every title adds a new little fold to the base gameplay.

Also, random aside, I hate SH4. I feel like the devs intentionally made the most annoying choice at every crossroads they came to. Breakable weapons? Sure. Inventory limit? Fuck yeah. Half the game is an escort mission? I'M CUMMING. Half the game is also repeating the areas from the first half? NOW WE'RE TALKING. Invincible enemies that chase you? GAME OF THE GOAT.

These people hate me.
 
Good to know as I struggle to find Silent Hill in f.
SH2 remake however was oerhaos the best SH ever so I can't wait for the SH1 remake and hopefully the SH3 remake after, from Bloober
 
We've heard the online fans loud and clear, we'll go back to rehashing Silent Hill 2 for the nth time so you can all complain how it's not as good as SH2.
 
The combat is so bad, so glad I noped out about 1/3 the way through. And there is SO much of it.

Apparently it's a lot easier on 'story' difficulty and not as annoying.

This is an action game with a japanese locale and horror themes. Also the story is stupid. Not a Silent Hill game at all.
 
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GrayChild said:
Who said I hate every new game? Are you projecting something?

So far, every Silent Hill product under Okamoto's supervision (with the exception of SH2 remake) has been underwhelming in multiple ways.

Let's not forget that he's also one of the people responsible for the absolutely atrocious "Ascension" and "The Short Message". I don't have any desire to gulp every piece of mediocre slop he's trying to pass on as "experiment". Especially when the genre is thriving through numerous other franchises that are much more consistent in overall quality.
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Whats wrong with SH short message?

It was free, or at least psn+ "free"? Do we conplain about free stuff now?
I liked short message. 🙈
 
GrayChild said:
Silent Hill 4 took lots of risks. Yet it still felt like a Silent Hill game.

Not to mention it was heavily criticized for stuff f easily gets away with, because "muh gender oppression".
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I love Silent Hill 4 and I remember people hating on that game. That game took a lot of risks while still feeling like a Silent Hill game. Silent Hill f doesn't feel like a Silent Hill game and it's funny how much people are handwaving the feminist themes in that game. Also Silent Hill isn't supposed to have good combat
 
I think I'm near the end of f and it's not a silent hill game. I'm very happy to hear future games will be different. At times it feels all the game is missing is an estus flask.
 
GrayChild said:
No worries. I'll just put everything in a spoiler:

- Overreliance on combat. There are dozens of late-game arenas where the game actually puts on-screen objective that says: "defeat all enemies" and doesn't let you to progress until you kill everything on screen.
- The actual combat is downright broken when fighting more than one enemy.
- The story is told in blunt, unsubtle and downright cringy matter. Everything is spelt out to you and the game actively tries to manipulate you how you should feel. No nuance or maturity in a game that claims to tackle mature and dark themes.
- You're expected to finish the game at least three times to see the full story.
- THIS BULLSHIT (no, this is not unlockable mode, this happens during your first playthrough):



- And personally, I didn't find it scary at all. Some of the monster design is actually Homecoming level of cheesiness, especially the monster which is just a pile of female breasts.
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I was curious about the tits monsters but the description says thay are cysts.
 
i for one hope that bloober gets to make an original silent hill, but it uses the plot/concept of team silent's silent hill 5 that got canned in favor of homecoming
www.silenthillmemories.net

Silent Hill 5 (Team Silent)

Unreleased, cancelled and rejected Silent Hill projects
www.silenthillmemories.net
 
More like "unfortunately" to me.

Silent Hill f is the first SH game that I truly loved. All the previous ones were kinda bland and overrated.
 
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