Metalmurphy
Member
Where's the irony?
Clean image means alot more than no aliasing. Make sure you actually say what you mean next time.
Again "The game uses x4MSAA + TAA, there isn't any aliasing outside of the alpha pass low resolution."
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Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Comparison Thread of John, Chapter 11, Verse 35
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Where's the irony?
Clean image means alot more than no aliasing. Make sure you actually say what you mean next time.
Again "The game uses x4MSAA + TAA, there isn't any aliasing outside of the alpha pass low resolution."
Then again.. I've never seen another racing game that matched this feel too in the rain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UdhvpmxLU8
SniperHunter
Banned
I was asking a question, hence the question mark...I haven't played the game. Thanks for clearing it up
And it's all Xanadu's fault, lol.
What's with the 720p shots in here? isn't GT5 1080p natively?
Louis Cyphre
Banned
Now that was a fun game. I hope they bring the series back.
Metalmurphy
Member
jaggies, whatever the fuck, i'm no super nerd but i know jaggies when i see em
all around the lights and windows is the jagged edges, its more prevelent on more detailed cars, this doesnt happen in my super IQ pc games with 4x4 supersampling yo
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
4xaa at 720p? just lol
I can see why, because it looks something like this for most of us:
Granted these are fairly old shots and they've made it look a little better with updates but nothing miraculous.
Metalmurphy
Member
That's a terrible capture, from Prologue, using QXAA...
Try harder?
Where's the Jaggies?
http://abload.de/img/granturismo5_11eu0b.png
http://i1.minus.com/ibgeAfVeQUncxc.png
Exactly.
Well no shit... but I thought you had a shitty PC?
You need to keep your stories consistent.
i have the game and i know the image quality is pretty bad, those shots seem resized from 1080 to 720 to hide aliasing, dw i know it means a hell of a lot to you to make sure gt5 looks its best at all times!
my pcs fine, i just have a dx10 card
Metalmurphy
Member
Can't tell if serious...
Haha, no. Here's a hint: stop using 1080p mode with probably the Flicker reduction filter that makes it use QXAA.
With a 230 there's not many games you're supersampling.
Metalmurphy
Member
*edit* Oops
Louis Cyphre
Banned
Not sure if this has been posted but Digital Foundry did a technical analysis on both Forza 4 and GT5. They each have their pros and cons.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-gran-turismo-5-tech-analysis
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-forza-motorsport-4
GT5 for example also got better since then with updates. Either way both games are excellent and I can't wait to see what each team does on the new hardware.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-gran-turismo-5-tech-analysis
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-forza-motorsport-4
GT5 for example also got better since then with updates. Either way both games are excellent and I can't wait to see what each team does on the new hardware.
They pushed a few boundaries too many since at release the game had constant screen tearing and framerate drops (unlike Forza). The updates haven't made either of those go away completely.
I've tried my hardest to keep out of here but for some reason I felt compelled to post something.
i use sharpen or whatever its called, and the reason i used 1080p mode is because my monitor looks like shit with anything less than native, and the know the 1080p mode isnt even 1080p but it still looks a lot cleaner, but even then it still looks aliased, like pretty much every console game out there
Lion Heart
Banned
You picked quite possibly some of the worst GT footage on youtube. Evident by the hud being so blurry, all to make GT look bad. Even though there is dozens of youtube links on the last few pages that point to the contrary.
I've noticed Forza fans are way more aggressive in trying to shit on the competition, while the GT fans are more about defending their game. Its actually quite common with Xbox fans in general vs Sony fans.
You know there is more than graphics to a game, you should try turning up the sound......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttHxq3kp4Fg
Truespeed
Member
Just wondering, if GT5 looks like shit in your opinion, what console sim racer doesn't?
Metalmurphy
Member
Ohh that's what you meant.
GT one for comparison.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcuPmk6ZV2E
(terrible driver)
I'm not going to lie, that car sounds fucking incredible.
GT5 was one of those games with inconsistent graphics quality. The game can look real good but it can also look real bad.
Wow that sounds nothing like the actual car....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD-SiSStgcw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsqqgaqPRKU
embarrassing compared to forza
Metalmurphy
Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beFl9J6xRCU
Both Developers record their sounds so I don't see the point of that video.
Betrayer of hope
Banned
You got to be kidding me
this is the gt5 take on that video of yours pal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMkAPRtuRVU
Did you hear the sound? Thats the sound of someone getting shamed.
next
sounds like my civic
seattle6418
Member
This thread is so funny, just keeps delivering when you least expect.
Maybe i'm just crazy, but out of 100 minutes i would spend complaining about those two franchises, maybe only 2 or 3 would be about visuals. The next big jump will be with PS4/720, until them we're just discussing old tech.
Of course, GT5 looks better, it's silly to debate this, but we need a new gen. I've seen what it looks to be GT6 (Corvette and NSX trailers), and it really makes me feel like there's no place for those games anymore on ancient hardware.
Next gen... NOW!
Also, nobody replied to the clutch comment, and that's something that bothers more than any tearing or 2d tree. It really is poorly coded, a shame they didn't invested time on it.
Maybe i'm just crazy, but out of 100 minutes i would spend complaining about those two franchises, maybe only 2 or 3 would be about visuals. The next big jump will be with PS4/720, until them we're just discussing old tech.
Of course, GT5 looks better, it's silly to debate this, but we need a new gen. I've seen what it looks to be GT6 (Corvette and NSX trailers), and it really makes me feel like there's no place for those games anymore on ancient hardware.
Next gen... NOW!
Also, nobody replied to the clutch comment, and that's something that bothers more than any tearing or 2d tree. It really is poorly coded, a shame they didn't invested time on it.
Metalmurphy
Member
Better take it to the shop.
Betrayer of hope
Banned
looks like your CIVIc needs an MOT ASAP
Betrayer of hope
Banned
i wasnt actually comparing the sounds.
I was actually replying to that guy who said thread not over.
i clicked on his link and all i saw was a shitty designed track with shitty lighting and a laughable car model.
One of them clearly didn't do that great of a job...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8Fmzv6aBmY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I07SwrI89Hs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JJroOgG0fE
Talk about a persons integrity hitting close to zero.
Metalmurphy
Member
Overall Forza has better sounds, but by how much is always exaggerated, and there are some cars that do sound better on GT5.
That sounds nothing like a 787B but whatever....
This thread isn't over because a fanboy like you says it is, it's over if one of the mods says it's over.
Betrayer of hope
Banned
i know right. After all his video response to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQO6JHZl-Cs
was this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enir06l07vk
Do you hear that sound? That's the sound of hilarious laughter. In the words of a cocky little dante, c'mon you can do better than that?
can i be both?
SunhiLegend
Member
Sound is definitely one aspect PD need to improve, be more consistent, it's one of the few things I would say Forza triumphs over GT.
seattle6418
Member
Racing games in general sound bad, it's like they invest 1000 hours on visuals and only 10 on sounds.
GT5 on select models sound OK, but without upgrades, once you change the exaust, it's like you've installed a vacuum cleaner. Sounds need to be dirtier in general.
Forza and Shift do some things better, but it's not like it's as good as those games have pushed visually.
I think capturing other sounds other than the engines is what makes it difficult. Also, we are used to hearing this in real life through on board cameras, which have terrible capture qualities, so we expect "real" sounds to be pitched differently than when you record straight from the dyno.
Please tell me T10 has fixed the shifting. It just ruins all sound videos.
The fake movement of the windscreen wipers totally ruins the immersion for me.
That reminds me of these. Totally overengineered (an extra hinge to remove one cm2 of water), but damn do they look cool
The current E class does the same as well.I think we all know who the hardcore guys in this thread are. The GT boys are also the most vocal and hardcore out of the two camps.
It hasn't been fixed.
Yeah, funny enough Forza 3 & 4 have really good clutch simulation including the gearbox damage. The rest of the driving physics is debatable though.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Not even Metalmurphy can defend the clutch.