-Deadpool-
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It's soooooo nice.
Glad it's in just so I have a good excuse to drive the remaining F class races in Event List.
EDIT: Will probably buy another and tune it for E class too.
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Forza 4 |OT| Where Porsche Are Driven
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It's soooooo nice.
Glad it's in just so I have a good excuse to drive the remaining F class races in Event List.
EDIT: Will probably buy another and tune it for E class too.
Seriously...shame..
what happens when you beat WT? Does it start over or open up each Series?
nismogrendel
Member
I tried to set this but cannot find any options named "steering sensitivty" or "speed steering sensitivity". I found a bunch of deadzone options.
A cheevo pops, the credits roll, and then you start again from scratch. No selectable seasons, unfortunately.
eso76
Member
I have !
I forgot Intelligent Replays, i've been suggesting for quite some time.
I'd like an optional tv style replay mode where the cameras aren't always following your car or the one leading the race, but actually cut back and forth to show interesting stuff happening anywhere on the track (crashes, overtakes), focusing and following other cars too, cutting to camera cars etc.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
I don't know if it's F4's tyre model/physics improvements or just having to pay for them but I'm really digging these Porsches.
yes lets hope forza 5 brings back all the missing features of the first and best game in the series, not many games series go backwards as they go on lol
Me too. The 959 vs F40 races are terrific fun. Weirdly, all the 2-lap Porsche events turn into much better 5-lappers if you access them through World Tour mode.
I'm loving the 959, GT2, and GT3s. All with Storefront tunes, natch.
Wait, there's a 959 vs F40 series? Holy fucking shit. Tell me it's some kind of homage or there's a reference to this somewhere:
Roflcopter - I was thinking the same while I was playing it. I loved the intro music on the Amiga version.Wait, there's a 959 vs F40 series? Holy fucking shit. Tell me it's some kind of homage or there's a reference to this somewhere:
evil_as_skeletor
Member
Just knocking about in one of my favourite cars to drive.
Took a few shots.
(Nurb GP is hard to take photos on IMO, seems like the sepia settings do not transfer over correctly when uploaded to the server - more yellow than on the TV - or is it just me?)
(This annoys me a bit when you try to take shots of some cars)
Took a few shots.
(Nurb GP is hard to take photos on IMO, seems like the sepia settings do not transfer over correctly when uploaded to the server - more yellow than on the TV - or is it just me?)
(This annoys me a bit when you try to take shots of some cars)
Jamesways
Member
Are you using a pad? If you're using a wheel I think the options might be different. They're under Adjust Controls, click the right bumper for Advanced. Steering Sensitivity is right under Steering Deadzone, Speed Sensitivity is the second one from the bottom.
Is there a good idiots guide to what all the wheel settings do? Eg WTF is 'clutch inside deadzone' etc?
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Yep mate, loved the Vs events, made the same mistake I did with Foza 3 by doing all the best races early so a lot of Porsches are redundant. These events are a great addition.
It's basically when the the clutch engages. Outside deazone is where 100% engagement is reached.
So if there's a 0 inside deadzone, there's immediate initial engagement of the clutch, whereas 70 would engage much later.
Outside deadzone of 30, would be very short travel where 100 will be longer travel.
That's a great help mate, thanks. I can't find a good breakdown of all the various settings though, what they all actually do. Has anyone come across a link anywhere?
Sorry, I don't have a link, but what I've described applies to all the settings.
STEERING AXIS DEADZONE INSIDE.. when do you want the wheel to start moving?(have an affect on steering in the game).
0 would mean straight away,as there is no deadzone in the steering input, where 70 would require you to turn the wheel 70% of full lock before you see any movement happen in game.
STEERING AXIS DEADZONE OUTSIDE:...when do you want full lock applied?
0 would mean full lock is reached in an instant lol (very quick steering input), whereas 100 would mean full lock is reached at 100% turn of the wheel(steering input slower, realistic 1:1)
ACCELERATION AXIS DEADZONE INSIDE...when do you want the accelerator to engage when you step on the gas?
0 means straight straight away(as soon as you touch the pedal), 70 would mean at 70% of full pedal travel.
ACCELERATION AXIS DEADZONE OUTSIDE....when do you want full acceleration to be reached?
0 would mean full acceleration reached in an instant (as soon as you touch the pedal), 70 would mean at 70% of full pedal travel.
Same thing goes for other inputs.
nismogrendel
Member
Seanspeed, I tried the B class BMW you have in the garage - sweet car. Very tolerant for my mistakes/online bumps
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Did you ever find a Scud Race livery for the GT2?
U n i o n 0015
Member
Love this car so, so much. Feels good having Porsche back.
-Deadpool-
Member
<3 the community.
evil_as_skeletor
Member
Love this car so, so much. Feels good having Porsche back.
So jealous, I wish I had coin for the Porsche pack.
That's a top photo by the way.
Love this car so, so much. Feels good having Porsche back.
My friend.....you have great taste. It's an absolute sleeper online. In my opinion, the best Porsche in the entire pack.
evil_as_skeletor
Member
FM5 future???
Car Damage Model in CryEngine3
Car Damage Model in CryEngine3
Shortt Sirket
Member
Just in case anyone hasn't tried it yet, the Porsche 959 converted to RWD is AWESOME as an A class car. It handles incredibly well, albeit with some understeer, but it is crazy fast. Been having a blast kicking ass in that thing.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
No. Still haven't grabbed the ones for the Macca or the F40 yet. I also need one for the Viper and a Hornet livery for the stock cars.
That would be nice, but crash physics and visual effects more along the lines of GRID from a few years ago would still be a major upgrade from FM4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATdxgvyez98
i know right forzas damage is still scripted just like the old grand theft autos lol
We can maybe start realistically expecting upgrades like this with the Nextbox rumoured to have around six times the grunt of the 360. Hopefully DG will let his designers run wild with FM5.
will prob use all the power to perfectly model jeremy clarksons wrinkled face, seriously i bet damage and hardly improves, its not what sells to the kids
Mister Negative
Member
Number one on the wishlist would be open wheeled cars for FM5.
I just want a Caterham, dammit ;_;
I just want a Caterham, dammit ;_;
Nah, I think Turn 10 are happy with what they've achieved this gen with regards to "turning car lovers into gamers and gamers into car lovers".
I think they've made their point, are somewhat satisfied with the outcome and are now concentrating on delivering a racing masterpiece.
There's a point you reach when aiming for something. That point doesn't need to be absolutely hammered in order to achieve your expectations. You be content, you pat yourself on the back and move onto bigger and better things.
In Dan we trust.
For race cars many things are possible, but for passengers cars.. not so much.
And there comes the problem of "consistency" - you can destroy racecars, but not road cars?
Will not work.
Manufacturers do not allow for the proper damage on the passenger vehicles. Some do, but some don't. Consistency.
Especially in games with many, many, many manufacturers.
If I was manufacturer (or working in marketing department of one), I would not want to see my passenger vehicle obliterated at the fence. Use it in the game, you can scratch it, maybe some small dents, but any more *visual* damage - no way.
So, problem is complex.
All the more reason for FM5 to concentrate on bring a purely balls-out motor racing experience, and stick the mundane family hatchbacks in a separate game.
Yeah you can already see some differences between manufacturers in damages. The Ferrari can't deform and their bumpers almost never fall. On the other hand, the Mercs deform a lot and fall into pieces for example.
The CryEngine video is impressive though. Even if we don't get as much deformation, I'd love to see the parts bend like in the video. RSC2 in 2004 was doing it and it looked great. As it is in FM4, all bumpers are made of an indestructible and impossible to deform material.
Only works on green discs though.
Thanks for all the comments.
Welcome to FM4's magical upgrades for AIs. I talked about this a while back when I noticed a 458 Challenge reaching an impossible PI in a Ferrari event.
The CryEngine video is impressive though. Even if we don't get as much deformation, I'd love to see the parts bend like in the video. RSC2 in 2004 was doing it and it looked great. As it is in FM4, all bumpers are made of an indestructible and impossible to deform material.
Only works on green discs though.
Thanks for all the comments.
Welcome to FM4's magical upgrades for AIs. I talked about this a while back when I noticed a 458 Challenge reaching an impossible PI in a Ferrari event.
Jamesways
Member
It's been my experience on fc that not many people even like the R Class cars. They take spaces away from people's Pacers and Ford Tempos.
The demand for novelty cars, muscle cars, hatchbacks, and 80s shitboxes seem pretty high.
Every DLC pack people complain about the R Class additions.
I think a lot of people would love it if FM5 further removed itself from actual motorsports. And that makes me sad.
i still think forza 1 was the best and most motorsport focused forza game, it had the perfect mix of motorsport and customization. and even though i think 4 was an improvement over 3, the whole top gear thing has gone too far, instead of bringing things that were taken out after the first game such as night racing they make top gear football..whatever sells i guess
I'm in the category of production cars over race cars. But that doesn't mean I don't want the race cars to vanish...not one bit. FM as it stands now has a varied and very acceptable ratio of production to race cars. I should think and hope it stays that way for FM5.
I just love taking an economy box and turning it into a fire-breathing monster. I love upgrading, customizing and tuning my 70's boats because it's what I do in real life.
As we know, FM is so much more than just racing. It's about car passion, it's about photography, it's about painting, it's about anything you want it to be and that's the genius of the game. Take away those options and features and you're left with a run of the mill experience.
Having said that though, I do believe that the actual racing experience needs a massive overhaul. All other things are pretty much nailed down and don't really need any major time for enhancing and fixing. It is time to take the motorsport aspect of the game by the scruff of the neck and shake the shit out of it.
I do have concerns about the direction the franchise is heading in.
The guff needs stripping away so that the basics can be honed to perfection.
Fewer cars would help.
I was gonna say Forza is in danger of totally losing focus, but I'm not even sure what Dan's focus is any more.
The guff needs stripping away so that the basics can be honed to perfection.
Fewer cars would help.
I was gonna say Forza is in danger of totally losing focus, but I'm not even sure what Dan's focus is any more.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
It's sad in a way, the core elements are there but there seems to be no plans to take a risk and create a real motorsports game, Forza is still a GT clone at heart.
How is it still a GT clone? May have been that in the beginning but it's deviated from that path far enough to be considerably different.
And you're bringing up GT in here? There's a whole other thread for that.
CrudeDiatribe
Member
I want it to be race focused, but the shitty little off-the-wall cars have a big place: the majority of track racing around the world is done with race prepped shitty little cars!
For events that aren't ostensibly track day events for street cars, the magic AI cars should all be race prepped as part of their magical upgrades.
For events that aren't ostensibly track day events for street cars, the magic AI cars should all be race prepped as part of their magical upgrades.
i actually think its moved away from GT and become more mainstream, i wish it was a little bit more like GT, like forza 1
yes but when they add hummers and jeeps is when it gets stupid
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Outside of the actual racing the games differ, Forza does the community and fluff like no other but the no rules, no teams, no points career mode is 1990's GT.
I'm playing F1 2011's career in parallel to Forza's and feel something along those lines would be so much fresher.
If licensing is a problem, start with a blank car, do well, gain sponsors and slap the logos over your ride for profit. It's possible to keep within the relm of fantasy and have a fleshed out career mode.
Sega tacked career modes on to Super Hang On and Monaco GP's that are far better than than what we getting 20 years later.