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Venom Snake
Member
A close circuit game with double the framerate. I wouldn't call that a problem.
zephiross
Member
I believe the "vacuum cleaner" argument is not so much about the intake sound and gear whine, but more about the lack of depth and rage of the engine sounds. it's still a bit flat and robotic.
Cheezewizz
Banned
Yeah, when compared to as 1 to 1 as possible, GT7 doesn't really even hold up to FH5. It wouldn't really be an issue if it weren't for fanboys claiming it's some kind of great graphical achievement. And of course the fact that FH5 is open world with all that entails.Even though Gran Turismo's photorealism and shader work is unique, the sun is not even in the same position between the two shots.
I'm not sure if it's some motion blur effect, but the vette in that GT7 pic doesn't have as much clarity as the FH5 one does.
And for as much as people love to race about GT's lighting. What's going on in that pic? Based on the shadow of the car, we know exactly where the sun is casting light from. So why are there shimmering reflections just southeast of the passenger side taillight, and then another right below that on the rear diffuser?
Edit. Lol, just realized how 1 to 1 this pic really is as both pics have a hot air balloon in the sky on the upper right. Seems FH5 even managed to do that better.
Ehh. Forza Horizon 5 is 60FPS on Series X/S
anthony2690
Member
Curious did they any new gameplay on the livestream on the 26th?
Venom Snake
Member
But at the cost of visual quality, right?Ehh. Forza Horizon 5 is 60FPS on Series X/S
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mrmustard
Banned
Series X has 4k 60FPS in performance modus.
Well. It has DRS from native 4K to 1600p with 4xMSAA in Performance Mode and according to Digital Foundry "DRS kicks only occasionally." So yeah. It is 4K
Venom Snake
Member
And even in Performance mode it looks better than GT7
mrmustard
Banned
GT7 also has that:
Should you use Ray Tracing or Frame Rate mode in Gran Turismo 7?
Gran Turismo 7 has two graphics mode, but which one should you choose? Here are the key differences you should know about.
racinggames.gg
transformer
Member
Yes. It has always had visual and mechanical damage. The latter being pretty well done and integral in the racing experience. For example, overevving your engine can cause engine damage, poor shifting can damage transmission, and a wide variety of physical damage to suspension and other components that impact yo it cars performance.
You forgot the part where you admit you were wrong. I don’t understand why people can’t admit mistakes.
Venom Snake
Member
And even in Performance mode it looks better than GT7
When GT7 first showed some gameplay, many tried to bash and trash the game based on cherry-picked shots and its cross-gen roots.
When it turned out that the recent presentations of Forza are also not particularly impressive the same people are trying to bend reality to an even greater degree.
Guys, come on..
I realise that, so i wrote i edited stuff and yes, it's 60 fps without the options that made Forza stand out from the competition. Add to this all the stuff that didn't work regardless, like zero driving physics, not very well made car models or poor interiors. Open world really doesn't do it all, it's a convenient excuse in this fanboy warfare, but as i said above, come on..
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
No release date.
Many were hoping to get a release date in the Forza Monthly they held the next day. However, they didn't. On top of that, they said they'll reveal more information "in the coming months," indicating that it's at least 3-4 months away from release and will miss its early 2023 release schedule.
Grubb Grubb already said in his podcast that game slipped into Q3. So if it won't slip even more it should be out in september, since releasing big games in july/august is not very common
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Oh okay, didn't know about Grubb's info on this. Thanks. My initial guess was always August 2023 anyway.
Riky
$MSFT
https://support.forzamotorsport.net...69635859-Forza-Motorsport-January-2023-Update
Incredibly they have RT in the Series S version also at 60fps 1080p. That's just amazing, really need a deep dive on the technology they are using.
Incredibly they have RT in the Series S version also at 60fps 1080p. That's just amazing, really need a deep dive on the technology they are using.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Well, there it is.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
I doubt for the potato RT performance of RDNA2 GPU of XBSX. Hopefully on pc version.
The only thing that was clearly stated was RT reflections on track.
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TrebleShot
Member
FFS, lol, so TRACK SIDE as expected means track side - photo mode.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
It was very suspect with them showing just one stationary car with extreme LOD/details/zero aliasing. So not in race.
MarkMe2525
Banned
Thinking back on it, you are correct. If RTGI was a feature set available during a race, they would have specifically called it out.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Confused. RTGI isn't in races, but ray-tracing shadows and reflection are in races, right?
IllegalLemon
Member
Couldn't have said it better myself!!!
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Even though Gran Turismo's photorealism and shader work is unique, the sun is not even in the same position between the two shots.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Looking forward to seeing these in game.
Monad
Member
Yeah, when compared to as 1 to 1 as possible, GT7 doesn't really even hold up to FH5. It wouldn't really be an issue if it weren't for fanboys claiming it's some kind of great graphical achievement. And of course the fact that FH5 is open world with all that entails.
I'm not sure if it's some motion blur effect, but the vette in that GT7 pic doesn't have as much clarity as the FH5 one does.
And for as much as people love to race about GT's lighting. What's going on in that pic? Based on the shadow of the car, we know exactly where the sun is casting light from. So why are there shimmering reflections just southeast of the passenger side taillight, and then another right below that on the rear diffuser?
Edit. Lol, just realized how 1 to 1 this pic really is as both pics have a hot air balloon in the sky on the upper right. Seems FH5 even managed to do that better.
I only tried to replicate the position of the light relative to the Corvette, the rest was mere coincidence.
Monad
Member
FH5 is already a step ahead GT7 technically, being an Xbox One game.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yeah, when compared to as 1 to 1 as possible, GT7 doesn't really even hold up to FH5. It wouldn't really be an issue if it weren't for fanboys claiming it's some kind of great graphical achievement. And of course the fact that FH5 is open world with all that entails.
I'm not sure if it's some motion blur effect, but the vette in that GT7 pic doesn't have as much clarity as the FH5 one does.
And for as much as people love to race about GT's lighting. What's going on in that pic? Based on the shadow of the car, we know exactly where the sun is casting light from. So why are there shimmering reflections just southeast of the passenger side taillight, and then another right below that on the rear diffuser?
Edit. Lol, just realized how 1 to 1 this pic really is as both pics have a hot air balloon in the sky on the upper right. Seems FH5 even managed to do that better.
Dr. Claus
Banned
Note how everyone is talking not about the actual game, its progression, its systems, etc. Instead people are talking about stills and looking at minute details they will never see in actual gameplay.
I am beginning to think more and more that these people don’t actually play the games they claim are so amazing.
I am beginning to think more and more that these people don’t actually play the games they claim are so amazing.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yep totally different games ya goofy tards. And no, 4 wheeling a Lambo across rocky deserts or jungles is not the same as a circuit racer.
Some of you clowns stay being clowns when it comes to racing games. There’s room to enjoy all types without flexing on shit you ANALyze and not play.
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Nemesisuuu
Member
It's 1st party game, of course they're gonna derail the thread with pointless comparisons, while both games look great visually and both have/will have pros and cons. It's business as usual, if it's exclusive to other console forget about civilized discussion.
I tried with posting track list that I've spotted so far in trailers, but only one person seemed to care. There were few constructive post, but the rest is just classic console warring.
Typical forum behavior.
I've spotted few members that genuinely care about racing games, but their posts are lost in GT vs Forza gibberish.
Dr. Claus
Banned
Yep, its sad. I love racing games, but this focus on graphical fidelity has stopped mattering 15 years ago. Racing games always look amazing, but what people *should* focus on is the quality of the campaign in circuit racers, how the online mode will be effected (will it punish people who purposefully pit other racers? Will driving cleanly reward them with extra points and bonus time?), the level of each car’s simulated driving (will it properly convey how slippery driving at turns during ice? Rain? Will it change depending on each car?), the level of customization options (what are the tune ups like? Will we see an “education” mode where it teaches the player what each part is and how they interact with each other?), etc.
But nah, instead these fuck weasles are crying over pixels that no one will ever notice in the middle of actual gameplay.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Got a C8 Stingray Z51, but seriously considering the E-Ray.
Nemesisuuu
Member
Mid Ohio seems to appear for first time in console racing game, but that doesn't matter. It's really cool track, can't remember if it ever was in racing game, but modding community did awesome job back in the day with version for rFactor and GTR2. I think it was Virtua_LM project.
My point is - things like this are obviously irrelevant. XD
fred420170
Member
Yeah, RT shadow and reflections are in races is what they said.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I loved sports cars in my younger days when I had younger knees and probably my all time favorite I have owned was a 2006 Ford GT and wish I had a lot more pictures of her
Not sure if you have been in many electric vehicles but the torque is insane btw and I bet that ERay is crazy
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Gorgeous car, and an animal to handle with that biting supercharged V8!I loved sports cars in my younger days when I had younger knees and probably my all time favorite I have owned was a 2006 Ford GT and wish I had a lot more pictures of her
Not sure if you have been in many electric vehicles but the torque is insane btw and I bet that ERay is crazy
I have, yes. Buddy has a Plaid. Insta-torque.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Cars were my vice and once we decided to start living half the year in Florida I sold almost all of them
A pic of my garage from maybe 10-15 years ago
Hobbygaming
has been asked to post in 'Grounded' mode.
Can you adopt me bro
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Cars were my vice and once we decided to start living half the year in Florida I sold almost all of them
A pic of my garage from maybe 10-15 years ago
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Going through old pics to see what else I can share of the old shop.
We held our family reunion at our place once a year thats why all the hoods are up and might see a few of the family, sorry
Monad
Member
Calm down kid, the world doesn't end if you do game comparisons (nor does it mean you don't enjoy both games).
Besides, I wasn't the one who started the comparison, it's not my problem that your butt hurts with something as obvious as FH5 being superior to GT7 on a technical level (especially on a powerful PC), except for the color work/lighting and the shaders on the cars where Polyphone excels at, nor does it make GT7 a worse (or better) overall game for that.