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[Psychotext]

720p Upscaled

Are you saying it's not running at native 720p?

It's a little hard to understand what you're trying to get across when you use so few words to do it with.

 

[skyfinch]

Blim how the hell does your site manage to pull this shit off dude? You have a small team yet you kick the ass of places like GT, IGN, GS, etc when it comes to video content which is way more important to me than the subjective opinions of anybody who doesn't share my tastes aka reviews.

edit: dirty driving.

Blim is my father.

 

[h3ro]

720p Upscaled

...is how the 360 displays 1080p. We know.

Unless you're saying that the game renders at a sub-HD resolution and is then scaled to display resolution.

Clarify please.

 

[RSTEIN]

720p Upscaled

Me Hulk! Me no explain myself! HULK SMASH!

 

[Andronicus]

tiiiiiiiime is on my side....

 

[h3ro]

pretty sure when the title says 1080p and i put 720p upscale......

This is common knowledge. Why the elipses?

 

[Andronicus]

This is common knowledge. Why the elipses?

so why is it such a big deal "every 360 game is 1080p"

edit thread name changed?

 

[Psychotext]

edit thread name changed?

The thread title never had 1080p in it.

 

[RSTEIN]

what the hell is going on here

 

[Xamdou]

what the hell is going on here

Looks like Andronicus claimed FM3 is running 720P upscaled with no source or explanation at all ;O

 

[RSTEIN]

Looks like Andronicus claimed FM3 is running 720P upscaled with no source or explanation at all ;O

He's also demanding a thread title change?

 

[LCfiner]

so i've been reading through the last couple pages of this thread but I can't find an answer to the question about the cockpit view and framerate. has anyone addressed that? is it 30 fps inside?

are we expecting answers when Blim's 60 fps version of his last video is posted?

thanks.

 

[h3ro]

so i've been reading through the last couple pages of this thread but I can't find an answer to the question about the cockpit view and framerate. has anyone addressed that? is it 30 fps inside?

are we expecting answers when Blim's 60 fps version of his last video is posted?

thanks.

One poster who went hands on with the game on a few occasions said that the rate was less than 60 during the in cockpit view. He also talked with a dev/representative at the booth and was told that it was a newly implemented feature and should be ironed out by release.

 

[RSTEIN]

so i've been reading through the last couple pages of this thread but I can't find an answer to the question about the cockpit view and framerate. has anyone addressed that? is it 30 fps inside?

are we expecting answers when Blim's 60 fps version of his last video is posted?

thanks.

1) The cockpit view is indeed <60fps. The code at e3 is 1 month old. They're still optimizing it. Hopefully they'll get to 60fps when it hits in October.

2) Blim's video isn't 60fps. It's coming tho!

edit. beat

 

[LCfiner]

thanks for the answers guys.

if the goal is to get cockpits at 60 fps then I'm happy.

 

[Andronicus]

in the coming days.....

 

[h3ro]

in the coming days.....

Dude, if you know something, post it. If not, don't clog up the thread with this stuff.

 

[Andronicus]

Dude, if you know something, post it. If not, don't clog up the thread with this stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS7xDBVJvYI ???


and didnt this thread title used to have 1080p and 60fps in the title?

but yeah i guess i should have put 1080p upscaled but wouldn't that be redundant when all 360 games can do this? turn 10 led people to believe it was 1080p native

 

[KHarvey16]

turn 10 led people to believe it was 1080p native

huh?

 

[Brashnir]

now I remember why Andronicus is on my IL...

 

[Xamdou]

720P 60FPS sounds fantastic, there's no way any racing game can be running 1080P 60FPS man.

 

[RSTEIN]

turn 10 led people to believe it was 1080p native

I have been following this game very closely and I can't recall any claim of it being native 1080p.

 

[h3ro]

720P 60FPS sounds fantastic, there's no way any racing game can be running 1080P 60FPS man.

Even though it uses a 1280x1080 scaled resolution, GT5P was pretty solid with very few frame drops. I think GT5 will have that cleaned up and be a solid 60fps. Totally doable.

Forza at 60fps and 720p native is totally fine by me though.

 

[BSherrod]

I am ready for this. So, so ready for this. Looks great and I am very happy to see the car list number go up. Hopefully, we get some muscle cars in there.

 

[Pimpbaa]

Even though it uses a 1280x1080 scaled resolution, GT5P was pretty solid with very few frame drops. I think GT5 will have that cleaned up and be a solid 60fps. Totally doable.

Don't forget Wipeout HD.

 

[Andronicus]

now I remember why Andronicus is on my IL...

thats why you can see my posts?

still stands that there was a bit of misinformation on turn10s part
i didnt say the game looked like shit or anything negative towards it did i? it looks good. i was looking for clarification and found it

 

[KHarvey16]

thats why you can see my posts?

still stands that there was a bit of misinformation on turn10s part

Care to show us this "misinformation?"

Oh and btw guys, this game definitely doesn't cure cancer. Total lie on their part.

 

[RSTEIN]

thats why you can see my posts?

still stands that there was a bit of misinformation on turn10s part

I've never seen them say the game is running native 1080p. Can you please point me to the interview/document/speech where they made the claim?

 

[Andronicus]

Care to show us this "misinformation?"

Oh and btw guys, this game definitely doesn't cure cancer. Total lie on their part.

if you come on stage repeatedly touting the game runs at 1080p 60 frames a second etc repeatedly on a system that will do 1080p upscaling on virtually every game. what does that lead people to believe?

did you see other devs running around saying 1080p 1080p 1080p...you get the point

 

[KHarvey16]

if you come on stage repeatedly touting the game runs at 1080p 60 frames a second etc repeatedly on a system that will do 1080p upscaling on virtually every game. what does that lead people to believe?

Why are you the only person claiming they did this?

 

[WHOAguitarninja]

if you come on stage repeatedly touting the game runs at 1080p 60 frames a second etc repeatedly on a system that will do 1080p upscaling on virtually every game. what does that lead people to believe?

I'm pretty sure they never said it's running at 1080p. I know I have never heard them say it, and I've gobbled up every single preview and interview I've seen.

Which actually makes your post rather ironic.

 

[FrankT]

I'm pretty sure they never said it's running at 1080p. I know I have never heard them say it, and I've gobbled up every single preview and interview I've seen.

Which actually makes your post rather ironic.

Not only that but I don't recall the title of this thread ever saying that. :lol

 

[danwarb]

Don't forget Wipeout HD.

Wipeout HD isn't always 1080p.

 

[Spasm]

Spanning the entire width and breadth of the internet, not one single media outlet has picked up on T10 claiming 1080p. You think that'd make at least ONE headline if T10 was supposedly trying to hammer it home.

 

[op_ivy]

1) The cockpit view is indeed <60fps. The code at e3 is 1 month old. They're still optimizing it. Hopefully they'll get to 60fps when it hits in October.

2) Blim's video isn't 60fps. It's coming tho!

edit. beat

blim posted a video not at 60fps... i think the 60fps version will be uploaded later.

and what the fuck is the hulk talking about? :lol

 

[Chrange]

thats why you can see my posts?

still stands that there was a bit of misinformation on turn10s part
i didnt say the game looked like shit or anything negative towards it did i? it looks good. i was looking for clarification and found it

You just posted a video showing they said it was 720p. Want to try posting one where they claim it was 1080p, or just continue to shit up the thread with garbage insinuations and theories that end with ...?

I think it's funny that the person asks about the three screens. They've supported that in every Forza game.

 

[Spasm]

Hulk try SMASH thread.

 

[WHOAguitarninja]

Not only that but I don't recall the title of this thread ever saying that. :lol

The thread title was never changed. I think he might've had a dream about Forza 2 with Dan Greenawalt running around on stage yelling 1080p or something and for some reason thinks it was real.

 

[Pimpbaa]

Wipeout HD isn't always 1080p.

Yes, but it shows that 1080p is doable.

 

[Brashnir]

Andronicus, I can see your posts because everyone keeps quoting your FUD-spewing nonsense.

 

[Beer Monkey]

I think I know what he was talking about. The Turn 10 guys came out in front of some giant 40 foot screen and said that only the power of Forza 3 could run live code that could put out the resolution for a screen that big.

 

[WHOAguitarninja]

I think I know what he was talking about. The Turn 10 guys came out in front of some giant 40 foot screen and said that only the power of Forza 3 could run live code that could put out the resolution for a screen that big.

I thought that is what Tretton said at the Sony conference.

EDIT-Wow this was very quickly derailed. Lets move on. I'll start.

All this excitement over Forza 3 caused me to revisit Forza 2. Does anyone have any liveries they've made that they're proud of? I have one, fits a TVR Speed 12 (not sure why I chose that car, to be honest. I'm not a huge fan of it.)

Looking at these makes me hope the 4x increase in resolution applies to the liveries as well.

 

[FrankT]

I thought that is what Tretton said at the Sony conference.

Bingo

 

[Beer Monkey]

Oh, shit, never mind. I had the '3' part right.

 

[op_ivy]

i'm dying to see more environments, especially the cliff side town and forest from the "community at play" video.

the background detail in montserrat is just astounding. no racing game can touch it. great texturing, tons of detail, huuuuuge vistas... lovely

thread back on track?

 

[Xamdou]

i'm dying to see more environments, especially the cliff side town and jungle from the "community at play" video.

the background detail is just astounding. no racing game can touch it. great texturing, tons of detail, huuuuuge vistas... lovely

thread back on track?

Agreed, I remember people complaining about Forza 2 not having "3D" grass :lol

Now look at the beautiful environments! Simply stunning ;O

 

[op_ivy]

real life montserrat

 

[Andronicus]

Taniguti Zyun.

 

[FrankT]

Blim's footage is gorgeous and those are some mighty purdy vistas to be sure.

 

[Zinthar]

right, with the exception of flipping the car, all of that was in f2. everything seen in videos from e3, again with the exception of flipping cars, also looks on par with f2. the only media showing any advanced damage is the "community at play" video in which the car flips through the air amid tons of bits of its body work, but that video likely isnt indicative of the actual game

I've gotta disagree with you -- the glass breaking and tire damage were not in Forza 2. In my experience with that game, and I played every single race with maxed out difficulty and simulation settings, you never got anything more than a small amount of cosmetic damage and slight hampering to your cornering and speed.

My impression from all of the hands-on previews I've read is that even that damage is more significant in Forza 3, with it hurting the performance of the car much more, and coming off as more violent on screen.

Still, even if this were not the case, I don't see why you would argue that damage is a mixed blessing. At the very least, any type of performance damage from crashing gives incentive to players online to race clean -- I don't see the down side. This is almost certainly not a perfect damage model, and I that would truly be ideal for a sim -- but it's a small step forward, and much better than bouncing off walls like nothing happened.