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[pr0cs]

Wait the game isnt out yet? I was planning on going to my friends place and play it there this weekend. :-(

When is release date, will keep that weekend free.

I think I might finish up my uncharted playthroughs and then go over to my friends place this weekend and check it out!

hopefully your "friend" was intelligent enough to actually "buy" the software

 

[iamcool388]

hopefully your "friend" was intelligent enough to actually "buy" the software

I assumed that since the review came out in Giant Bomb, it was already out. They posted their Uncharted review after the game came out, so... *shrug*

 

[Yoritomo]

An automatic is technically much more efficient and quicker. Manual just provides more fun/control to a certain group of people. And with paddle shift transmissions you sort of get best of both worlds, the speed of an automatic and the fun of being in control. But the discussion of manual/automatic is mostly subjective and only partially technical.

Actually a traditional automatic is not more efficient or quicker. Traditional automatics use a torque converter instead of a mechanical clutch. The torque converter uses a fluid to transfer power from the motor to the transmission. Fluid coupling instead of a direct mechanical connection via a clutch means there's a pretty big efficiency loss. 10% or more at times.

Paddle shifted transmissions are typically computer operated manual gearboxes, or dual clutch transmissions. In the case of the latter they are much faster than any manual or traditional automatic as gear changes are basically instant.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

I guess there won't be many streamers on JTV now. Fuck 'em. :lol

Jube3, where are you?

 

[Yoritomo]

In the few cars I have had a chance to drive over the years the gear stick will not budge unless you open the clutch enough, so I dunno if that is taken into account in forza 3. Using clutch to let the car roll or get a biting point is important though.

You can rev match and shift without a clutch in a normal car. I can downshift with cruise control on in my manual without using the clutch...

There a story about some nut of a race driver that never uses the clutch and rev matches all his gearshifts.

 

[Jube3]

Thanks for the replys to the iron man car The storefront is such a sick source of money. I put a small price on my license plates (3000) and its made me like 30K so far lol.

I guess there won't be many streamers on JTV now. Fuck 'em. :lol

Jube3, where are you?

Ill start streaming now, but its gonna be hired AI for a bit since i got an errand to do. Plus I can only load those 3 maps atm. Gonna see if I can get the install going again.

 

[chespace]

Thanks for the replys to the iron man car The storefront is such a sick source of money. I put a small price on my license plates (3000) and its made me like 30K so far lol.



Ill start streaming now, but its gonna be hired AI for a bit since i got an errand to do. Plus I can only load those 3 maps atm. Gonna see if I can get the install going again.

Jube, hit me up on IM or something.

We're doing a preorder giveaway of one of your cars.

Blog will go up soon tonight.

 

[abrasion]

It's out a week, seriously.

On the plus side, have another 10/10 from me. Fucking awesome game.

It went gold over a MONTH ago, it's been in boxes at retailers for a week for goodness sakes.

 

[commedieu]

Jube, hit me up on IM or something.

We're doing a preorder giveaway of one of your cars.

Blog will go up soon tonight.

How does this work with Licensed material(iron man)? Seems like it wouldn't be the best idea to involve real world money with it right?

 

[chespace]

How does this work with Licensed material(iron man)? Seems like it wouldn't be the best idea to involve real world money with it right?

Why would I do anything with the Iron Man car?

Lovely car, BTW.

 

[Iknos]

It went gold over a MONTH ago, it's been in boxes at retailers for a week for goodness sakes.

This is a business and they want to develop and release products that will maximize revenues and profits. An extra month of development time costs money.

Rather than having the game a month early I'd rather have another month of development on the game. But this is all MS's decision and there's nothing us consumers or even developer T10 can do about it.

 

[commedieu]

Why would I do anything with the Iron Man car?

Lovely car, BTW.

thought that was the one you u were talking about. Yeah that paint job is amazing. Lots of talented folk out there.

OH che,

What are the odds of a deal with Logitech being worked out for some sort of... I dont know? Support for F3?

 

[Ding]

Something that might be useful to learn when to shift is to drive with the telemetry. When you see the torque peak you should shift up.

Short shifting like that would kill your overall acceleration. For best acceleration, you'll want to get a lot closer to the red-line before upshifting. Yes, at higher revs your engine's torque is falling off, but premature up-shifting will reduce your effective torque even more, because the new gear ratio will be much less advantageous. Also, early up-shifting can drop the revs to a point that is further away from (i.e. below) the engine's torque peak/plateau, as compared to where it was in the lower gear. "Lugging" the engine to some degree....

The ideal shift point will be somewhere between the torque peak, and the horsepower peak, but likely closer to the latter.

 

[Jube3]

How does this work with Licensed material(iron man)? Seems like it wouldn't be the best idea to involve real world money with it right?

This was just for fun, as for first party I got a few I want to do the Rare Restrospective will be my next car (which is gonna take a while), plus two others im doing.

These are the superhero ones I want to do
-Green lantern (green, grey and white car = drool)
- Captain America

I kinda wanna do hawkeye after seeing that picture but I dont think I could do that justice without using 800 layers.

 

[commedieu]

This was just for fun, as for first party I got a few I want to do the Rare Restrospective will be my next car (which is gonna take a while), plus two others im doing.

These are the superhero ones I want to do
-Green lantern (green, grey and white car = drool)
- Captain America

I kinda wanna do hawkeye after seeing that picture but I dont think I could do that justice without using 800 layers.

I havent touched the painting since F1.Is it more like Illustrator at this point?

Btw, amazing job man! Making me wish I could use my g25, id buy the game in a heartbeat!

 

[dejay]

NM

 

[Iknos]

What are the odds of a deal with Logitech being worked out for some sort of... I dont know? Support for F3?

You might as well buy the Fanatec wheel. It doesn't look like Logitech will make an XID FFB wheel. The Fanatec wheel is also compatible with the PC and PS3 so if you have those platforms it is the ultimate multiplatform wheel.

It's a bit pricier than say the G25 but the quality of FFB and the Clubsport pedals are much better so it would be worth it. Plus it has rumble in the wheel like the MS wheel. The only drawback I see is that the sequential shifter and H-shifter are seperate and not together like on the G25.

 

[commedieu]

You might as well buy the Fanatec wheel. It doesn't look like Logitech will make an XID FFB wheel. The Fanatec wheel is also compatible with the PC and PS3 so if you have those platforms it is the ultimate multiplatform wheel.

It's a bit pricier than say the G25 but the quality of FFB and the Clubsport pedals are much better so it would be worth it. Plus it has rumble in the wheel like the MS wheel. The only drawback I see is that the sequential shifter and H-shifter are seperate and not together like on the G25.

I'd have to buy a 360 too. So its like this 299 for elite(or forza bundle)+60 for forza3 +50xbl then $300 for the fantec. Just got a brake kit for my car -- So I'll hold my breath, hope, and just enjoy the liveries .

 

[DarkJC]

You might as well buy the Fanatec wheel. It doesn't look like Logitech will make an XID FFB wheel. The Fanatec wheel is also compatible with the PC and PS3 so if you have those platforms it is the ultimate multiplatform wheel.

It's a bit pricier than say the G25 but the quality of FFB and the Clubsport pedals are much better so it would be worth it. Plus it has rumble in the wheel like the MS wheel. The only drawback I see is that the sequential shifter and H-shifter are seperate and not together like on the G25.

Is it beyond the realm of possibility that some sort of adapter between the wheel and console could be made to translate the XID commands the 360 is sending into the ones the G25 accepts?

For those just buying a wheel now, obviously the Fanatec is the wheel to buy, but for those with G25's already just buying a Fanatec wheel is a pricy option.

On a more Forza related note, now that my 360 is back up and running I've finally had a chance to play with the demo quite a bit, and I'm very impressed. I've played a ton out of each of the 5 cars and almost can't get enough. Definitely picking this game up day 1, glad I'm mostly hyped for it now that it's only a week away.

 

[pr0cs]

Is it beyond the realm of possibility that some sort of adapter between the wheel and console could be made to translate the XID commands the 360 is sending into the ones the G25 accepts?

The only way the 360 will ever support other wheels is if they open up the OS and add that support.
Some sort of adapter will likely never happen.

 

[Jube3]

I havent touched the painting since F1.Is it more like Illustrator at this point?

Btw, amazing job man! Making me wish I could use my g25, id buy the game in a heartbeat!

No its the same setup as F1, using premade shapes to create stuff.

 

[Scottlarock]

I havent touched the painting since F1.Is it more like Illustrator at this point?

Btw, amazing job man! Making me wish I could use my g25, id buy the game in a heartbeat!

why you here?, your going to use your g25 to paint a car?

 

[Oli]

Here's a question for people who have the game:

These cars with the elaborate portraits on them, are these really created using the basic shapes? Or is there a free paint type thing you can do?

I seriously can't believe the stuff people can make with seemingly simple tools, but it makes me excited.

 

[LaserBuddha]

Here's a question for people who have the game:

These cars with the elaborate portraits on them, are these really created using the basic shapes? Or is there a free paint type thing you can do?

I seriously can't believe the stuff people can make with seemingly simple tools, but it makes me excited.

If you watch Jube3's justin.tv stream, you'll see that he's using shapes to make everything. But it's very flexible, with the ability to warp it, change transparancy, etc

This is actually a MUCH better approach than if you could free-hand draw with the controller.

 

[DarkJC]

I'm excited to play with the livery editor as this will be my first Forza, but I know I'll be pretty bad at it :lol

I imagine I'll be doing more buying than selling.

 

[Recoil]

This is actually a MUCH better approach than if you could free-hand draw with the controller.

I can't help but disagree.

A freehand vector-based system would be much, much more flexible and less of a pain to work with, for the portrait-and-full-scene-artwork crowd.

But it isn't bad for what it is. Certainly, I'll say that it's a much better system for doing a lot of the simpler stuff, like racing liveries and flames.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

In the few cars I have had a chance to drive over the years the gear stick will not budge unless you open the clutch enough, so I dunno if that is taken into account in forza 3. Using clutch to let the car roll or get a biting point is important though.

In some of the Fanatec beta test videos, they show different cars having different clutch models. One guy slowly let go of the clutch while rolling backwards on a hill, in a Mini he would hit a spot where the car would stand still whereas in the Porsche when he hit the right point the sucker just went.

An automatic is technically much more efficient and quicker. Manual just provides more fun/control to a certain group of people. And with paddle shift transmissions you sort of get best of both worlds, the speed of an automatic and the fun of being in control. But the discussion of manual/automatic is mostly subjective and only partially technical.

I'm not talking about manual vs automatic, I'm talking about a digital clutch (on/off) vs a progressive one (not just on/off but variable between off and fully engaged).

 

[LaserBuddha]

I can't help but disagree.

A freehand vector-based system would be much, much more flexible and less of a pain to work with, for the portrait-and-full-scene-artwork crowd.

But it isn't bad for what it is. Certainly, I'll say that it's a much better system for doing a lot of the simpler stuff, like racing liveries and flames.

I'm not talking about vectors at all, I'm talking about free-hand drawing as I said in my post. So you aren't disagreeing with me.

This thing sort of has vectors in the use of warpable lines as shapes, so it does a servicable job of providing that flexibility.

 

[enzo_gt]

This was just for fun, as for first party I got a few I want to do the Rare Restrospective will be my next car (which is gonna take a while), plus two others im doing.

These are the superhero ones I want to do
-Green lantern (green, grey and white car = drool)
- Captain America

I kinda wanna do hawkeye after seeing that picture but I dont think I could do that justice without using 800 layers.

Whoa! I just did a nooby Green Lantern 959 paint job in Forza 2 about an hour ago. Pretty amateur, but I just love the symbol. Will be cool to see what else you can come up with with those comic book characters, especially Cap Am. I did a pale minty green design on top of a foresty green and topped it off with the Lantern logo throughout.

 

[Yoritomo]

Wow. The twitter meltdowns for #forza3hammertime are awesome.

 

[HoTHiTTeR]

CHE!

http://twitter.com/Turn10Studios/status/4933324318

Should I steer clear of collecting my auction house earnings until further notice?

 

[senahorse]

5 more days to go

 

[chespace]

For those of you with Forza Motorsport 3 preorder receipts (from any country):

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/b...orza-motorsport-3-pre-order-car-giveaway.aspx

The free cars:

 

[gibration]

wow thats awesome

 

[HoTHiTTeR]

Just read the tweet. So Sexy. Props to T10 and Jube3.

 

[senahorse]

Awesome, congratulations m0dus and jube3

 

[chespace]

Sorry, reposting for the new page:

For those of you with Forza Motorsport 3 preorder receipts (from any country):

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/b...orza-motorsport-3-pre-order-car-giveaway.aspx

The free cars:

 

[BigKaboom2]

I pre-ordered online - any way around that?

 

[chespace]

I pre-ordered online - any way around that?

Print out the confirmation email, write your gamertag on it, take a pic, send it to us.

 

[senahorse]

*frantically starts rummaging around for pre-order receipt* :lol

 

[Len Dontree]

I champing at the bit to get my grubby paws on mo' Fo'za. Those cars look great, Modus and jube!

 

[Funchameleon]

Freehand drawing in the editor would suck, but vector bezier handles? Fuck yes. They'd be easily controllable with a gamepad, too.

edit: Can we scan our receipts for the car giveaway? My camera and phone camera are both broken

 

[enzo_gt]

I wonder how many different Audi R8 V10s I am going to get, just off of pre-orders and stuff :lol

Sweet deal though, I'll get on this quick, just pre-ordered today, and put a good 3/4 of it down.

 

[UltimateIke]

I'm so doing this RIGHT NOW!

 

[Jonsoncao]

how awesome? so awesome :lol

 

[Yoritomo]

Oh shoot I'm glad you did this. I now realize they got my phone number wrong on the receipt.

 

[Anony]

is there any other way other than live to get access to different car paint jobs?

 

[Jube3]

 

[Iknos]

Is it beyond the realm of possibility that some sort of adapter between the wheel and console could be made to translate the XID commands the 360 is sending into the ones the G25 accepts?

I would think so but according to Logitech this would be an unlikely solution.

The way Fanatec does it is that they translate commands from the PS3/PC game to XID commands on the wheel...seems like an easier route than the other way around. Though I would think the other way around should be possible.

 

[TheLegendary]

Just sent my email through! Used an online order...I just blocked out my address since I figured that was irrelevant (hope that's okay...che?). Awesome idea.