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Forza Motorsport 4 - The Floodgates Have Opened...

Slayer-33

Liverpool-2
Deegon said:
What the heck is up with the pictures, those look pretty bad. Is there's no AA???
Oooooold pictures look at the positions 8/8, sp has 12 cars now and mp 16


Plus it seems those shots were in photomode with exposure set high and none of the new lighting changes in place.
 

Megasoum

Banned
Yeah but don't forget guys, maybe we knew about those two tracks since April but as far as T10 official marketing plan, we still don't know!

That means that they will tease us and they will be all excited to announce us this big thing that is Infineon and Indy!!! So yeah...act surprised! lol


That's what I hate with "old school" marketing plans. The plans are just not able to stay up to date with the speed of the Internet. If some your info is leaked on the Internet a couple of months early then deal with it, don't ignore it. By ignoring it they make us look like stupid people who are only relying on them to get our info....sigh
 

Akira

Member
Shaneus said:
PS. So Indy and Infineon are unofficially confirmed then? Why isn't there more excitement about this?

One look at Turn 10 polls on most requested tracks should answer that question.
 

sagi446

Neo Member
Risking sounding ignorant as hell, but I haven't played my 360 in a while and I guess I am in the mood for a driving sim.

My question is, what's the difference between Forza 3 and Forza 4?

I could pick up Forza 3 right now with a nice discount, any reason to wait for 4? I heard about the Porsche not being included in 4, but screw dat. I hate Porsches. Just give me a 2011/12 V8 Stang and I couldn't be happier.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
So I just checked the pre-order incentives page and it now says this:

Ot4ip.png


What does this mean? If you pre-ordered in July or before you get this Unicorn? Does that mean if I pre-order in August I won't get this and I'll only get stuff from August and afterwards? Jub3 can you clarify?
 

eek5

Member
enzo_gt said:
So I just checked the pre-order incentives page and it now says this:

http://i.imgur.com/Ot4ip.png[/IMG

What does this mean? If you pre-ordered in July or before you get this Unicorn? Does that mean if I pre-order in August I won't get this and I'll only get stuff from August and afterwards? Jub3 can you clarify?[/QUOTE]
I preordered last week and they just sent me the Spirit R yesterday. :)
 

AMUSIX

Member
sagi446 said:
Risking sounding ignorant as hell, but I haven't played my 360 in a while and I guess I am in the mood for a driving sim.

My question is, what's the difference between Forza 3 and Forza 4?

I could pick up Forza 3 right now with a nice discount, any reason to wait for 4? I heard about the Porsche not being included in 4, but screw dat. I hate Porsches. Just give me a 2011/12 V8 Stang and I couldn't be happier.
Sorry you had to wait for an answer, I guess others weren't sure what the differences were...

...for the most part, the structure of the game is the same...you're just getting a better 3 with 4.
in a nutshell, this is the general list of improvements from 3 to 4:

More cars: a lot of the additions that have been announced are classics, so if you like the predecessors to that V8 Pony, you might like the extra cars F4 has to offer, as there is a lot more classic american muscle, as well as a number of nice Australian muscles....

More tracks: the track list is close to the same in both, with F4 having around five more locations (some of those locations have multiple tracks).

More cars in races: Forza3 has up to 8 cars in a race. Forza4 has up to 12 in single-player races and up to 16 in online races. Once of the nicest bumps.

Improved lighting: It sounds simple, but it makes a huge difference in the look of the game. Forza3 already looks very good, 4's lighting makes is just that much better.

Longer career: not much to say here..just more races to do, more level to attain...

Community: Forza4's community improvements (like car clubs and such) are probably one of the biggest reasons to wait for the new game. That, and the fact that every game has a nice active community for the several months after release.
 

Megasoum

Banned
eek5 said:
I preordered last week and they just sent me the Spirit R yesterday. :)

Wait what? Is this a FM3 car?? lol didn't even realized. Maybe I should boot the old too see the 6month wort of gift backlog haha.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Megasoum said:
Wait what? Is this a FM3 car?? lol didn't even realized. Maybe I should boot the old too see the 6month wort of gift backlog haha.
Yeah I thought we were getting FM4 stuffs :(

Guess I can keep procrastinating on that pre-order then.
 

eek5

Member
enzo_gt said:
Yeah I thought we were getting FM4 stuffs :(

Guess I can keep procrastinating on that pre-order then.
I think we are getting both F3 and F4 stuff. I'm hoping we login to a mail greeting us with all the pre-order cars. :wishfulthinking:

sagi446 said:
Risking sounding ignorant as hell, but I haven't played my 360 in a while and I guess I am in the mood for a driving sim.

My question is, what's the difference between Forza 3 and Forza 4?

I could pick up Forza 3 right now with a nice discount, any reason to wait for 4? I heard about the Porsche not being included in 4, but screw dat. I hate Porsches. Just give me a 2011/12 V8 Stang and I couldn't be happier.
Forza 4 is an apology for Forza 3 so you might as well wait! Unless you don't like chocolate and flowers :(
 

eso76

Member
AMUSIX said:
More cars:

More tracks:

More cars in races:

Improved lighting:

Longer career:

Community:

career is more varied, with several new event types

physics engine reworked, said to be more realistic

improved AI for CPU, which can now upgrade their cars.

autovista mode

reworked cockpit view

kinect integration (head tracking etc)

some tracks (all ?) you can race on at different times of the day (night racing and weather unconfirmed as of yet)

lots of other stuff and fixes

i'd say definitely wait for fm4 at this point

there has been hinting at a couple rather big surprises which will be unveiled at the upcoming Frankfurt motor show and tokyo game show.



Also, someone at T10 forgot about round 2 of today's garage :D
 

Shaneus

Member
I want to see them somehow shoehorn Jeremy Clarkson talking about M. Rossi.

"Some say, he's a right c*nt. Some say, he went to the same driving school as The Stig. All we know is, he's called M. Rossi."
 

Mascot

Member
G Rom said:
You need clouds in your sky to make it believable ? Shit, I must be living in a weird place then because there are a lot of cloudless days during the year over here. :p

Edit : You live in the UK, no wonder why you find a cloudless day odd. :lol

Lol, after the summer we've had here I'm sick to the back teeth of clouds..!

Nah, in videogames (and especially racing games) a clear blue sky just looks odd to me. Maybe it needs clouds so that it helps with the parallax effect when your view rotates or yaws, I dunno. But the sky in the Nurb F1 on FM3 looked abysmal, I thought. Ridiculously vivid with not a whisper of cloud anywhere.

Maybe totally cloudless clear blue skies would be OK with a few hot air balloons or blimps floating about, or some vapour trails from long-departed jet liners. Or helicopters. Every game benefits from helicopters.

Actually, how about it, Turn 10? Why no hot ait balloons, blimps or choppers?
 

G Rom

Member
Forza Garage Round 2 said:
For 'Stangs with swagger, look no further than the 1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429, 1971 Ford Mustang Mach 1, and 1978 Ford Mustang King Cobra.

Mach 1 (GT5 players will be familiar with it :p) :
1971-1972-1973-ford-mustang-18.jpg


King Cobra :
mufp_0601_10z+1978_ford_mustang_cobra+front_left.jpg
 

Aspiring

Member
Anybody know of any places that ship the limited edition overseas from the US? Amazon will only ship the standard edition, but the cover of the LE plus the extra cara is too much to miss out on.
 

Mascot

Member
Shaneus said:
If I can be blunt, I'm getting pretty fucking over American muscle car announcements.
Lol, I reached the same conclusion several weeks ago. It's not a class I'll be spending too much time in. Same with drag and drift events.

Each to their own, I guess.
 

saladine1

Junior Member
Mascot said:
Lol, I reached the same conclusion several weeks ago. It's not a class I'll be spending too much time in. Same with drag and drift events.

Each to their own, I guess.
C'mon, 4 speed gearboxes, shitty suspension, rust prone, dodgy trim, wheel barrow tyres...what's not to love?
 

Shaneus

Member
Mascot said:
Lol, I reached the same conclusion several weeks ago. It's not a class I'll be spending too much time in. Same with drag and drift events.

Each to their own, I guess.
Same. But they're not doing much for their international appeal by focusing on cars from the US... in particular, a certain breed of car. They should be getting me excited with the widest cross-section of vehicles ever seen, not to mention the largest number of manufacturers ever seen in an video game. So far it feels like I've been seeing pretty much the same thing every few days.
 

Mascot

Member
Shaneus said:
Same. But they're not doing much for their international appeal by focusing on cars from the US... in particular, a certain breed of car. They should be getting me excited with the widest cross-section of vehicles ever seen, not to mention the largest number of manufacturers ever seen in an video game. So far it feels like I've been seeing pretty much the same thing every few days.
Yeah, I do wonder about Turn 10's marketing strategy, and whether in fact they actually have one at all. It all seems a bit haphazard, as if they are making it up as they go along. The release of information seems to have no logical structure to it.
 

amar212

Member
Mascot said:
The release of information seems to have no logical structure to it.

I agree.

We have 40 days to release, game went gold. All relevant information about structure and such have been disclosed almost 2 months ago.

Instead of using their own website to promote details - many probably remember the astonishing job PD did prior to GT5 release on their website, where all aspects of upcoming game were disclosed to details - and enhance them in order to gain interest from both general and hard-core audience - they're playing Facebook-games.

I do not understand that.

They have a unique position in the whole history of Forza series. Audience of their main rival have been somewhat disappointed with game and many of them raised their eyebrows for the Forza for the first time. Also, many of hard-core fans are eagerly waiting to find out about stuff they're interested in: description of CPL, wheel support, driving model, damage model, etc. Not even to speak about cars and tracks list.

I couldn't find a better situation for Forza worldwide appeal than it is now. Instead of taking huge advantage with their assets, options and channels they have on disposal, they're playing cat-and-mouse, but with the wrong target-audience.

General public do not care about that things if they are not COD/BF/megapopularmainstreamgame. Giving small bits of information will probably produce results for the first few days, but tension will soon wear-off with new, more concise information form other interesting sources and upcoming titles in this period. And there is damn plethora of them.

Disclosing all important details to public in this moment would produce great hype among hard-core audience and long-term Forza players. Their hype would then build interest among general public and work the way towards overall hype. If they would establish the overview section on the web, with descriptions of all modes, structure, type of races, detailed description of modes, list of tracks, cars and upgrades... it would be so benefitial to overall impact, from every side imaginable: hard-core would go nuts, general would catch-up on hard-core, competitor public would become much more interested and hyped and community buzz would do miracles. Again, my single example for that is disclosure of all GT5 info made almost 2 month before game release on their official web. Everybody just went crazy and it's a fact.

Dan gave great information in his recent interview on FM.net, but those info should have been transformed into concise and visually interesting breakdown on official pages. As everything else we've been told so far - and lots of things have been told.

With present approach they're just making hard-core feel stupid and general public have no interest in clicking the same FB/twitter every day just to find out about some Ferrari/Mustang model they have no idea about in RL. In my opinion, this approach does not make impact as it could/should, but I guess they know better - it is not me who is on 6-digits payroll, unfortunately.

Maybe all this is really worth those few extra "likes" on Facebook. But I think this is very wrong approach in the launch of the most important racing game of the year not just for X360 but generally.
 

G Rom

Member
Is this "most car manufacturers ever" actually true ? I've always wondered ever since they made this announcement. I just have a hard time believing that GT4 and 5 don't have a bigger car manufacturers list as they have a lot of old or lesser known ones (Chaparrale, Ginetta, Triumph, etc...).

BTW, I've updated the OP with all the Forza Garage reveals, latest news and a link to the Flickr set I posted earlier.

Also, I counted 10 new US cars for 13 European ones, 8 Japanese ones and 3 Australian ones in the Forza garage reveals so it seems that the impression we have of an overwhelming amount of Muscle cars isn't entirely true.
 

Shaneus

Member
It's weird, I think the best marketing for the game was the leaked launch trailer. Sexy cars set to White Zombie is a guaranteed sell for me.
 

guest1321

Member
What was the general consensus on the sounds of Forza 3? Do we know if they are using the same recordings as in 3 or if they have produced new ones for 4?
 

saladine1

Junior Member
It's quite possible that September is the month of the full assault.
We'll probably start seeing more gameplay videos, content reveals, painting/customization related 'tutorial' videos, the reveal of Bathurst and Spa, the reveal of night and weather, the reveal of Interlagos and Brands Hatch, the reveal of F1 cars, the reveal of rally and Gymkhana and perhaps if we are lucky, some more incubation of the image based lighting seated and bathing in the natural surrounding light, coupled with gamers everywhere turning into car lovers and even...yes that's right...car lovers turning into gamers!
 

Slayer-33

Liverpool-2
guest1321 said:
What was the general consensus on the sounds of Forza 3? Do we know if they are using the same recordings as in 3 or if they have produced new ones for 4?
The engine sounds in FM3 were pretty good, I think we have a PGR 4 guy working on the engine sounds on FM4 so who knows, judging by the 599 GTO alps vid the engine noises got considerably better.


I think the team re-recorded.
 
Fantasmo said:
Is this taken from Forza? If so then I'll want to save this until I get the game.
I thought the commentary was going to be by Cortana?

It's from Forza 4, yes. Cortana is doing the technical narration that is usually done by the "Forza guy" (forgot his name) and Clarkson will do his usual comedy act.
 

saladine1

Junior Member
brotkasten said:
It's from Forza 4, yes. Cortana is doing the technical narration that is usually done by the "Forza guy" (forgot his name) and Clarkson will do his usual comedy act.
Peter Egan..
 
brotkasten said:
It's from Forza 4, yes. Cortana is doing the technical narration that is usually done by the "Forza guy" (forgot his name) and Clarkson will do his usual comedy act.

Great. Will save it for the release.
 

eso76

Member
saladine1 said:
Bathurst
Spa
night
weather
Interlagos
Brands Hatch
F1 cars
rally and Gymkhana


Oh, cool, you mean they're going to announce Forza 6 in september ?

Or strange marketing strategy.
Dan "FM3 IS THE DEFINITIVE RACING GAME OF THE FUCKING GENERATION; BITCHES !"
(fm3 turns out good)
to:
Dan "Yeah, i suppose our game, fm4, is alright. I mean it's not too bad, i guess"
(fm4 turns out to be THE ULTIMATE DRIVING EXPERIENCE OF THE FOREVER)

But wait, you mean there's no Mercedes SLS in bundle with the LCE ?
Preorder fucking canceled.
 

Mascot

Member
Shaneus said:
It's weird, I think the best marketing for the game was the leaked launch trailer. Sexy cars set to White Zombie is a guaranteed sell for me.
Biggest gaming buzz of the year for me, seeing that leaked trailer for the first time. I want a similar buzz between now and release but I think any bombshells left might have damp fuses.

Direct feed videos of all the tracks should be a given over the next six weeks, unless Turn 10 are happy with shakycam phone videos of Alps off-screen footage, driven by imbeciles at noisy clusterfuck events.

Fuck - September HAS to deliver, and deliver in spades. Fasten your seatbelts, people.
 

squared

Member
Has it been confirmed yet wether the engine sounds change after upgrading exhausts, like in FM2? Or have they even talked about it? Anything? :p

The sounds themselves in FM3 were decent, but the whole thing felt half-assed..
 
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