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Forza Motorsport 4 - The Floodgates Have Opened...
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Mascot said:
In fact, I wish the car reveals showed more rear views. It's how we are going to see most of the cars in-game anyway.
this has me thinking - with the new perelli tires relationship, will we still see other tire manufacturers in the livery editor?
op_ivy said:
Judging by this:
Doesn't seem like logos will be present on tires. Then again, I don't recall the SuperGT cars in F3 having the logos on tires either. I think that had more to do with us being able to change wheel type, size and width in F3. GT5 did have the logos present, but we were locked from changing wheels.
Based on how much T10 has been name-dropping Pirelli, I doubt we'll see any other manufacturers.
Arucardo said:
yeah, if thats in the game, it will have the bridgestone branding. arent there playstation branded cars in FM3?
what i'm wondering is if in the livery editor there are still pre-made logos for the other various tire companies still, or if those have been dropped due to their new relationship.
and those modeling shots are gorgeous. great detail.
brotkasten
Member
It's the only way to go this gen.shinnn said:
brotkasten
Member
I don't know if I'd put the work from another studio in my game, especially now that they're not part of the company anymore and well, dead. I wonder if Bizarre and Turn 10 hated each other.amar212 said:
Tiago Leite
Member
In Forza 1 credits, Turn 10 said "thank you" to Bizarre Creations... 
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
"Thank you Bizarre Creations for the Caterham, Atom and Indigo models...Tiago Leite said:In Forza 1 credits, Turn 10 said "thank you" to Bizarre Creations...
...but we couldn't use any of them."
Tiago Leite
Member
lololcjelly said:
But really... it's something like "best of luck on the next version of Gotham! We know you guys will really be bashing it to get PGR 3 done on time ;-)"
BTW any news of Forza World? :/
brotkasten said:
To be clear, I have never implied that. I said how PGR could be raised from dead by releasing it in its native engine on nextgen.
I presume all ots graphical fidelity problems - subHD res, framerate - would be nonexistant in native form. Something along the lines of how F1 by Codemasters is absoulutely different experience on PC and consoles despite being the exact same engine.
It is crazy even to imagine the actual fidelity of actual cities of thisgen PGR series in native form. It still neats anything, anywhere, but we said it too many times already.
I know it's just a rumor but I can see it happening. Forza comes out every two years. Rumors are that the next gen consoles would come in around 2013. MS posted job listings for positions at Turn 10 over the last month or so..
Would be awesome if it indeed happens though..
Would be awesome if it indeed happens though..
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Arucardo said:They should add motorcycles to Forza 5
FunnyBunny
Member
I'm not sure where the negative PR would come from. The people who would make a stink on boards like this make up such a small fraction of the gaming community.enzo_gt said:
I actually think the return of PGR's cities in Forza would be meet with great enthusiasm.
SPEEDxNASTY
Neo Member
Arucardo said:They should add motorcycles to Forza 5
Nah, if they still care for realism they must not mix cars and bikes in one game, that would be bullshit.
Just make a Forza-like motorcycle game Turn10 for us motorcycle lovers!!!!!!
Honestly they weren't that bad in PGR, but the mixed races just didn't work.enzo_gt said:
I don't see why not, as long as they don't have mixed races. Only way to do mixed should be in a custom lobby if you really want to. Hard part about bikes is getting the feel right, very few games have in my opinion (Tourist Trophy is one of them).SPEEDxNASTY said:
Well the only other demographic that is affected by PR is the Kotaku readers and those who pay attention to the blogs and there is a strikingly large amount of those.FunnyBunny said:
And Copy+Pasting assets is a faux pas in the industry, hell it becomes a big deal on blogosphere even if they're copy+pasted from your own previous games, let alone assets another studio made that wound up in your possession. It's not that there is anything wrong with using old assets, hard to find a game that doesn't, but on a scale of entire environments, and not from the same developer, there would be controversy of T10 using shortcuts, and sloppily pasting together content instead of making something *new* themselves.
It's happened before, and for pettier things, regardless of whether it is still more content at the end of the day. I'd love em too, but they'd feel weird in Forza's realistic aesthetic. Oh and we'd need a Blu-Ray.
Arucardo said:They should add motorcycles to Forza 5
I hope the focus for Forza 5 is on a much wider and more varied range of circuits to race on. This (more than car count, gimmicky games, and autovista) is what will give the game real legs. I pray the emphasis doesn't shift further away from racing than it has done already - Forza will end up with an identity crisis if Turn 10 aren't careful. I'm not necessarily expecting monster trucks, dirt bikes and speed boats in Forza 5, but I'm sure Dan already has plans for some other superfluous addition to the content. Tracks, tracks, and more tracks. That's what is needed.
Lol, FM4 isn't even out yet and here we are discussing FM5..!
Forza should maintain the focus on the love of automobiles and the love of automotive racing. If they want to branch out, bring back things like autocross, recreate tarmac rallies (like Targa Newfoundland), provide customize-able garage spaces...essentially deliver all the things that surround car-love.
I would love for Forza to deliver a more 'race day' feel, a more motor racing atmosphere in the future.
I want to see pit crews, marshalls, tv crews,grid girls/crews, flags, strategy, intense racing,proper engine damage(overheating,blown turbos..etc).
I want to have a memorable experience where tough races, cars jostling for positions,bump n grind, immersion,more tracks, more starting cars,rain,night..etc becomes the norm.
The love of cars is a given and will continue on. But where do you draw the line when it comes to ogling the automobile?
How long can you sit there and admire the door or engine bay of a car before you tire of it and then demand a more expanded experience?
Forza as it stands now, has the basis of car love down pat. This has always been the fundamental aspect for Dan. For the future though, it's time to expand into other areas besides the admiration of cars alone and to try and deliver an intense racing experience incorporating the previous examples as well..
I want to see pit crews, marshalls, tv crews,grid girls/crews, flags, strategy, intense racing,proper engine damage(overheating,blown turbos..etc).
I want to have a memorable experience where tough races, cars jostling for positions,bump n grind, immersion,more tracks, more starting cars,rain,night..etc becomes the norm.
The love of cars is a given and will continue on. But where do you draw the line when it comes to ogling the automobile?
How long can you sit there and admire the door or engine bay of a car before you tire of it and then demand a more expanded experience?
Forza as it stands now, has the basis of car love down pat. This has always been the fundamental aspect for Dan. For the future though, it's time to expand into other areas besides the admiration of cars alone and to try and deliver an intense racing experience incorporating the previous examples as well..
Diablohead
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Before bikes I would prefer to see open wheel vehicles like the atom and maybe a formula car of sorts.
If another racing game was released today with the same engine that PGR4 used, I would not be disappointed in the slightest. It's still the pinnacle of graphical fidelity at 30fps on a console, IMO. Framerate very rarely dipped below 30fps, motion blur was executed perfectly and from what I understand it was the first time anyone had the idea of using the framebuffer to use as a reflection map on the cars (I think that's the terminology). Prior to that, reflections were often low-res and quite ugly. Forza 3 implemented the idea after it was in PGR4 and from what I can remember, GT5 didn't (and looked all the worse for it).
saladine1 said:
Kinda like a combination of the best bits of Grid, Shift, PGR and Forza then? That would get my vote. And on the NextBox all posible at 60fps, yes? Crikey, I really hope that 60fps becomes the minimum default frame rate on the next gen of consoles, like Sony said it would be on the PS3.
Diablohead
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3d crowd pop-in in forza 3 is terrible, fixing that would be nice too.Marco1 said:
Hopefully next box forza will do what the codies F1 games do, have a real motion captured pit crew and a more lively track feel (birds fly out of trees, stray helium balloon from the crowds, leaves falling from trees) it's really suttle in f1 2010 but once you notice it in a replay or on a fast lap it's awesome and stops the track feeling so static.
eso76
Member
Marco1 said:
they could easily put out a Forza 4 ultimate edition epilogue and take another year to complete fm5 when xbox1080 comes out.
Just further upgrading shaders and lighting and using full lod models for all cars.
AF, 1080p and 4xaa would make a night/day difference and would cost almost nothing. Sold for cheap it would help T10 fund the real fm5.
Like i said elsewhere, i would buy that in a heartbeat
Exactly.Mascot said:
I mean, when someone mentions intense racing, immersion, sweaty palms..etc, how often does the name Forza pop up?
Not often I would suspect. For me, SHIFT comes close to what I'm looking for.
Borrowing ideas from other games shouldn't feel shameful if the potential experience can be multiplied. You don't have to always incubate ideas in order to deliver something special...
SPEEDxNASTY
Neo Member
saladine1 said:
Agree with that, MOAR IMMERSION please.
Make it almost feel like its real and alive.
So much things can be done to make Forza better that it will take them years to achieve that, hopefully next-gen consoles will give them more possibilities.
To be honest, I think that a motorcycle game from Turn10 (if its in their mind) won't happen before long, they're already too busy with Forza already.
I absolutely love little details like that. Hell, even the blimp on GT5 brings a big smile to my face every time I see it circling overhead. And Shift's helicopter TV crews are almost sexual.Diablohead said:
Would it kill FM4 to have a couple of hot air balloons in the sky on the Alps track, for example? Anything to make the environment seem more... alive.