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[watership]

DONT TELL ME TO CALM DOWN I'LL TALK ABOUT PGR4 WHENEVER I WANT TO

Ha. That reminds me. OT thread discussion?

Forza 4 |OT| WRONG, TOO WIDE AND PGR3

 

[Yoritomo]

i got demoted to junior for "trolling" gran turismo on the whole standard car thing, i lost it haha. the thing is i dont expect ever car to be perfect but there are such obvious things wrong with cars, such as the zondas rear wheel and the f50 i mean come on that is ridiculous

and yes i'm waiting for VVV and SRT too

Other than GT5 and Forza there is not a single other driving game that gets held to those standards, yet these 2 games have more vehicles than any other game in existence. What you are asking for is complete nonsense.

I could run down the list of the vehicles in F1 2011 and point out where each and every formula model is incorrect, and they only had to model 13 cars.

When did GT5 and forza get to be about nitpicky bullshit instead of racing? At the end of the day I'd love to have 1/4 the number of vehicles and 3 times the number of tracks.

 

[Metalmurphy]

Awesome GT5 gets a pass for using Terrible last gen assets, but model a rim wrong and fanboys explode.

My only problem with Forza was the hidden assists and the pi rating system. If they're well and truly gone/resolved I'll be a happy man.

Not sure if serious...


Besides the fact that they are clearly labeled as "standard/legacy/last gen/wtv" cars it never, ever, got a pass.

Not sure in what planet you're living.

 

[Gowans]

Okay okay.. everyone calm down. 4 days until the demo!

T10 have put on fb/twitter that they are giving away early access codes all weekend starting today.

Time for a demo thread anybody?

 

[soundscream]

Forza 4 |OT| Definitively Incubating On A Sub 6inch Level A Reversed Enginerd Sun

 

[watership]

but where else can i discuss forza? forza forums are horrible and forza central is down most of the damn time, i love to discuss all things racing sims, but it seems people hate me pointing out flaws

I don't want you to stop, this thread should be discussions and sometimes, respectable arguments. Just scale it back a bit. No one doubts that you're correct, it's just most of us can't see the details you have issues with, or mind them as much.

 

[cbox]

i got demoted to junior for "trolling" gran turismo on the whole standard car thing, i lost it haha. the thing is i dont expect ever car to be perfect but there are such obvious things wrong with cars, such as the zondas rear wheel and the f50 i mean come on that is ridiculous

and yes i'm waiting for VVV and SRT too

With outsourcing comes major communication errors, i assume that is what's going on. Hence the need for a new PM or QA manager. That or we need to complain more...

 

[h3ro]

Awesome GT5 gets a pass for using Terrible last gen assets, but model a rim wrong and fanboys explode.

??

It got DESTROYED both here and globally around the internet when that nonsense came out.

That wheel model is horribly incorrect. I'm not a "fanboy" nor am I exploding. They got it wrong. Is it a minor deal to most? Yeah. But to those who love this genre, it's a significant oversight that seems to present in multiple cars in F4.

 

[Xanadu]

Other than GT5 and Forza there is not a single other driving game that gets held to those standards, yet these 2 games have more vehicles than any other game in existence. What you are asking for is complete nonsense.

I could run down the list of the vehicles in F1 2011 and point out where each and every formula model is incorrect, and they only had to model 13 cars.

When did GT5 and forza get to be about nitpicky bullshit instead of racing? At the end of the day I'd love to have 1/4 the number of vehicles and 3 times the number of tracks.

its not nitpicking though, these models have some serious issues, and its the fact that we've been asking to fix these issues since the first game is ridiculous IMO, like i said there were threads about the S2000s nose in 2005

With outsourcing comes major communication errors, i assume that is what's going on. Hence the need for a new PM or QA manager. That or we need to complain more...

the thing is if we didnt complain or pick out and discuss the flaws..they would never fix them

 

[Yoritomo]

Not sure if serious...


Besides the fact that they are clearly labeled as "standard/legacy/last gen/wtv" cars it never, ever, got a pass.

Not sure in what planet you're living.

To get the number of vehicles in each game either team cut some corners. One outsourced a lot of the modeling, and the other imported very old low poly assets.

I'd have preferred they just got brake bias right on any car in their game even if the cars had to look like a vector outline in order to do so.

 

[SarBear]

Interesting. I wonder what they are going to do.

I dunno, but I'm all over it.

 

[G Rom]

Nice one soundscream ! :lol
Here's one : Forza Motorsport 4 |OT| Incubating car lovers into gamers and gamers into car lovers

T10 have put on fb/twitter that they are giving away early access codes all weekend starting today.

Time for a demo thread anybody?

I think this thread will be used for demo impressions. The OT will be up in the middle of the week anyway.

 

[watership]

I dunno, but I'm all over it.

Speaking of being all over it...

 

[Slayer-33]

G rom dude..

Did uhhh. BRB

 

[soundscream]

Didn't GT5 or Forza 3 had the Zonda R Concept while the other had the final version ? I think someone pointed that out sometime ago because there were some big differences between the models like the exhausts and it was only a matter of model reference in the end.

@soundscream : So when are you buying one of the new Fanatec wheel ? I'm waiting for your Porsche Wheel. :lol

Waiting to see if the CSR Elite Wheel is going to be a major step up. Otherwise that money will go to more Tattoos.

Funny I offer up my Fanatec and I have people waiting in the wings, I offered up my MS wheel and not a single taker, its not that bad.

 

[cbox]

Waiting to see if the CSR Elite Wheel is going to be a major step up. Otherwise that money will go to more Tattoos.

Funny I offer up my Fanatec and I have people waiting in the wings, I offered up my MS wheel and not a single taker, its not that bad.

I'll take your microsoft wheel! how much? lol

 

[MiniBossBattle]

I went back 5 pages and the only gif I see is of Mortal Kombat movie.

I want my Forza gif goodness.

I know its a longshot but is there anyway to get my G27 wheel to work for this game?

 

[saladine1]

but where else can i discuss forza? forza forums are horrible and forza central is down most of the damn time, i love to discuss all things racing sims, but it seems people hate me pointing out flaws

I'm not suggesting you go anywhere. Who are we to tell you to go?
I mean if we find an issue with something we discuss it for a few posts but we then move on and not get hung up on it. We totally understand your concerns but it's best we leave it behind because it's not going to be fixed anytime soon so why bother anymore?
Besides, demo is upon us, G Rom is back, my Porsche wheel is ready.....life is good....

Forza 4 |OT| Definitively Incubating On A Sub 6inch Level A Reversed Enginerd Sun

We have a winner!

 

[Vorg]

its not nitpicking though, these models have some serious issues, and its the fact that we've been asking to fix these issues since the first game is ridiculous IMO, like i said there were threads about the S2000s nose in 2005

The fact that the rims aren't as deep as they should be isn't a serious issue.

 

[soundscream]

I'll take your microsoft wheel! how much? lol

Free Biatch

 

[Yoritomo]

??

It got DESTROYED both here and globally around the internet when that nonsense came out.

That wheel model is horribly incorrect. I'm not a "fanboy" nor am I exploding. They got it wrong. Is it a minor deal to most? Yeah. But to those who love this genre, it's a significant oversight that seems to present in multiple cars in F4.

There are only two game series in "this genre". No other racing game gets held to these standards when it comes to graphical assets. So what do we call this mystical genre that is under ridiculous graphical scrutiny? Car Porn genre? Car collectathon genre? It sure doesn't apply to anything else in the racing genre.

So I guess we can keep arguing and complaining about the relative shape of headlights, rim depth, and the position and color of side markers.

 

[Xanadu]

The fact that the rims aren't as deep as they should be isn't a serious issue.

its way..way more than that

There are only two game series in "this genre". No other racing game gets held to these standards when it comes to graphical assets. So what do we call this mystical genre that is under ridiculous graphical scrutiny? Car Porn genre? Car collectathon genre? It sure doesn't apply to anything else in the racing genre.

So I guess we can keep arguing and complaining about the relative shape of headlights, rim depth, and the position and color of side markers.

as i said if these things dont get pointed out or discussed, they wont be fixed

 

[Shortt Sirket]

Major Nelson is giving away codes to the FM4 demo for his "Free Code Friday."

All the info you need is here: http://www.whosay.com/larry/photos/74627

 

[G Rom]

I'm not suggesting you go anywhere. Who are we to tell you to go?
I mean if we find an issue with something we discuss it for a few posts but we then move on and not get hung up on it. We totally understand your concerns but it's best we leave it behind because it's not going to be fixed anytime soon so why bother anymore?
Besides, demo is upon us, G Rom is back, my Porsche wheel is ready.....life is good.

I'm only back temporarily as I'm at my brother's place and abusing his Internet access to see the photos on a screen bigger than a smartphone one...

Waiting to see if the CSR Elite Wheel is going to be a major step up. Otherwise that money will go to more Tattoos.

Funny I offer up my Fanatec and I have people waiting in the wings, I offered up my MS wheel and not a single taker, its not that bad.

Never saw you offer your MS Wheel, that's why. :lol

 

[Xanadu]

Major Nelson is giving away codes to the FM4 demo for his "Free Code Friday."

All the info you need is here: http://www.whosay.com/larry/photos/74627

do you need a gold membership?

 

[AlanzTalon]

Major Nelson is giving away codes to the FM4 demo for his "Free Code Friday."

All the info you need is here: http://www.whosay.com/larry/photos/74627

"This website is blocked due to the following classification:

Social Networking; File Sharing"


NOOOOOOOOO

 

[cbox]

Free Biatch

PM!

 

[Yoritomo]

 

[Shortt Sirket]

"This website is blocked due to the following classification:

Social Networking; File Sharing"


NOOOOOOOOO

Here you go, I rehosted the info:

@Xanadu: I am pretty sure you don't need Gold since it is a free code.

PM!

You SUCK!

 

[Big Takeover]

do you need a gold membership?

Hey, I gotta ask....

It says here the last time you played a 360 game was back in April '10. It was Forza though...good man! You did play a few of GFWL games since then though. *love PC gaming*

Anyway, you don't even have a 360 any more, do you?

 

[Xanadu]

why did you post that?

Hey, I gotta ask....

It says here the last time you played a 360 game was back in April '10. It was Forza though...good man! You did play a few of GFWL games since then though. *love PC gaming*

Anyway, you don't even have a 360 any more, do you?

GFWL is terrible lol but yea its in my brothers room now as i dont use it (he uses a different GT), but as soon as the demo comes out check again, the only games i buy for xbox are forza games anymore, i'm such a GT fanboy!

 

[skyfinch]

Major Nelson is giving away codes to the FM4 demo for his "Free Code Friday."

All the info you need is here: http://www.whosay.com/larry/photos/74627

5 random winners.....screw this. As much as I'm dying to play the game (and demo), I'll wait till Monday. Don't want to wait around all weekend hoping to be picked.

 

[Shortt Sirket]

5 random winners.....screw this. As much as I'm dying to play the game (and demo), I'll wait till Monday. Don't want to wait around all weekend hoping to be picked.

He announces the winners pretty much right after his deadline. So by 5p ET he will have announced the winners.

 

[kamkor]

Who ever clicks like the fastest or tweets the most, fuck that noise!

Spoiler

I can has demo code, me needs it

Me too, and probably everyone else posting in this thread.

 

[Ty4on]

I have never really noticed the Ferrari flaws, but the S2000 flaw is in my eyes pretty huge. Couldn't find the old comparison pics and was too lazy to boot up FM3, but found some.
Forza:

Real life:

I know the photos are of different models with different bumpers and bodykits, I'm no S2000 expert at all, but the big flaw is still there. Study the front, does it look like it should?

Spoiler

The front is too sharp and the headlights are not round enough. And for the love of God Honda owners, stop making your cars so damn ugly!

 

[G Rom]

Did the MN thing. If I get a code, I'll be sure to post some 720p 60fps direct-feed videos.

 

[Yoritomo]

why did you post that?

Cause it's the basis for the forza model.

 

[Aptos]

Can someone explain to me the difference between the Limited Edition and the Standard Edition? I'm super confused by their site. Also, how does the season pass factor in?

 

[skyfinch]

He announces the winners pretty much right after his deadline. So by 5p ET he will have announced the winners.

Yeah, but 5 random people? It should be a beauty contest, that way I would have a chance.

 

[Xanadu]

oh no s2000 discussion incoming!

 

[GTP_Daverytimes]

Awesome GT5 gets a pass for using Terrible last gen assets, but model a rim wrong and fanboys explode.

My only problem with Forza was the hidden assists and the pi rating system. If they're well and truly gone/resolved I'll be a happy man.

What planet do you live on?

 

[G Rom]

Can someone explain to me the difference between the Limited Edition and the Standard Edition? I'm super confused by their site. Also, how does the season pass factor in?

I don't have the image I did for the OT right now otherwise I would have posted it. Basically you get more cars in the LCE, the steel book case, the Top Gear book, VIP status (probably meaning free in-game cars gifted by T10, like in FM3), some stickers and a different cover.

The Season Pass grants you access to the first six monthly DLC for 2400 MS Points, saving you 30% in the process. You pay once and each month for the next six months you'll get 10 new cars without having to pay anything more.

 

[Big Takeover]

why did you post that?

GFWL is terrible lol but yea its in my brothers room now as i dont use it (he uses a different GT), but as soon as the demo comes out check again, the only games i buy for xbox are forza games anymore, i'm such a GT fanboy!

Fair enough. I'll buy that.

Alt. accounts, idle gamertags, lots of moaning and groaning.... it just doesn't look good, ya' know?

 

[Xanadu]

Fair enough. I'll buy that.

Alt. accounts, idle gamertags, lots of moaning and groaning.... it just doesn't look good, ya' know?

what reason have i got for hating forza? i dont even own a PS3, i use my brothers and i'm a PC gamer. what do you mean alt accounts though? and the moaning is because i'm passionate about forza and i want it to be the best it can be

 

[flyinpiranha]

Can someone explain to me the difference between the Limited Edition and the Standard Edition? I'm super confused by their site. Also, how does the season pass factor in?

It doesn't. It's a separate thing. But the Muscle Car pack that comes in the LCE is also coming with the Season Pass and I think BADNED mentioned that there will be something different "added" to the LCE to compensate people for buying both and not doubling up on car packs.

I'm not sure though, nothing has been really mentioned that I've seen.

 

[Aptos]

I don't have the image I did for the OT right now otherwise I would have posted it. Basically you get more cars in the LCE, the steel book case, the Top Gear book, VIP status (probably meaning free in-game cars gifted by T10, like in FM3), some stickers and a different cover.

The Season Pass grants you access to the first six monthly DLC for 2400 MS Points, saving you 30% in the process. You pay once and each month for the next six months you'll get 10 new cars without having to pay anything more.

Are the cars included in the LCE possible to get without buying the LCE?

Also, can you buy the season pass part way through the "season," or is there an expiration date when you can no longer buy the season pass?

 

[Ty4on]

oh no s2000 discussion incoming!

Sorry, I just think it's the one model that really looks bad

 

[Xanadu]

Sorry, I just think it's the one model that really looks bad

it does, it has since forza 1 but t10 wont listen :/

i remember vspectra used to be very passionate about the s2000 lol

 

[soundscream]

why did you post that?

GFWL is terrible lol but yea its in my brothers room now as i dont use it (he uses a different GT), but as soon as the demo comes out check again, the only games i buy for xbox are forza games anymore, i'm such a GT fanboy!

How old are you?

 

[Xanadu]

How old are you?

i am 18, why does it matter?