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Forza Motorsport 4 - The Floodgates Have Opened...

Xanadu

Banned
i couldnt give a shit about achievements

i'm disappointed by maple valley but wow they have improved the graphics on that track, it always looked very bland. cant wait to see what nurb looks like with the improved lighting
 
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With Maple Valley announced, does this mean NY is gone?
 

Slayer-33

Liverpool-2
^ isn't NYC marked in that pic?

Xanadu said:
i couldnt give a shit about achievements

i'm disappointed by maple valley but wow they have improved the graphics on that track, it always looked very bland. cant wait to see what nurb looks like with the improved lighting
I expect nurb to be nucking futs.
 
soundscream said:
With Maple Valley announced, does this mean NY is gone?

Could be, and if we don't get the long circuit form FM1, then good riddance I say. The short Times Square circuit, with or without the chicanes, has go to be the most boring track in FM3.
 

adelante

Member
Ahhhh figured the track reveal would be based on an existing one....but updated Maple Valley is looking very nice indeed! Colors really pop compared to the old version
 
Slayer-33 said:
^ isn't NYC marked in that pic?

It was done by skatezilla at forza central, he guessed it was NY. I never knew MV was in NE so I always assumed it was NY as well. But looking at it knowing what we know its to high up to be NYC.

So there might be no city tracks in the game.... :(
 
Slayer-33 said:
I expect nurb to be nucking futs.

The 'Ring is probably the track I want to see most. With the IBL, refined trees, and likely alternate time of day, it ought to look brick-shitting amazing, but for crying out loud, can the track dimensions and surface irregularities please be more accurate this time?
 

eso76

Member
op_ivy said:
great track remade visually. i am happy.

actually, between this and the other returning tracks overhaul, i will renounce all my previous disappointments at the less then stellar new tracks in forza 4 if ALL returning tracks get this attention to detail. forza has always had the best looking tracks but it would be nice to see them overhauled as each iteration hasnt improved them much

Ok, but while they've been putting so much time in updating returning tracks (which is great) why not add a couple ribbons for each ? There aren't many new environments apparently, but adding ribbons to existing locales would have been great too and not as time consuming, probably. At this point i am not expecting New York to finally come with the original, long version.

It appears that they chose to work on making the game look more consistent and better overall rather than working on (more) new tracks and just porting the old ones as they were; fm4 shouldn't fear comparison screens in which the game looks the same as its predecessor at least, and i'm sure they also took their time to fix all replay camera angles this time :p
For me this will go a long way in making my interest in the game fresh, as there are tracks in fm3 i always tried to avoid racing on because of the way they looked (but i'm a graphic whore, don't mind me).

Anyway, we knew it was a returning track and i don't understand people complaining. They would have to reveal returning tracks at some point, that doesn't mean there's nothing else.
If anything they are saving surprises for the weeks leading to release, and the trend this thread took shows exactly why they would want to do that: excitement for new features somehow tends to fade if you don't feed it with new reveals, to the point people start calling the game forza 3.1 forgetting about all the stuff that was revealed earlier.

I am not disappointed, just slightly mad at the fact the reveal didn't come with any new footage. Come on T10, no new media besides a single screenshot ? :(
 
Hmmmmm

Forza series = race and fantasy tracks

Forza World(PGR) = City races

Therefore Forza World to compete with NFS hence no Porsche sub-license!

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adelante

Member
soundscream said:
Hmmmmm

Forza series = race and fantasy tracks

Forza World(PGR) = City races


Therefore Forza World to compete with NFS hence no Porsche sub-license!

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Woah wait, I think you might be on to something! They needed another "PGR" afterall and maybe that's the reason why New York may not be appearing in F4 :O
 

Xanadu

Banned
i havent played forza 3 online in a long time (no gold membership) but did anyone buy this by any chance? i remember it selling quite a bit but never got to see just how many i sold

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saladine1

Junior Member
"I am the road warrior"

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In all seriousness, I am very,very grateful Turn 10 for giving us the opportunity to drive our heritage vehicles in the game. You had the balls to feature our cars when nobody else gave two shits about us. Sure, they might not be the prettiest or sort after cars in the world, but they are our cars and finally, we get to taste them in the virtual world.
Again, props to Turn 10 from your fans from Down Under!!
 

Xanadu

Banned
one car i'd like to see which i havent seen many requests for is the original 1960s mini cooper s, one of the greatest rally cars ever

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vanty

Member
saladine1 said:
In all seriousness, I am very,very grateful Turn 10 for giving us the opportunity to drive our heritage vehicles in the game. You had the balls to feature our cars when nobody else gave two shits about us. Sure, they might not be the prettiest or sort after cars in the world, but they are our cars and finally, we get to taste them in the virtual world.
Again, props to Turn 10 from your fans from Down Under!!
If they wanted an old Aussie Ford in the game wouldn't a Phase III have made much more sense? Weird having this for anything other than Mad Max fantasies.
 

Shaneus

Member
vanty said:
If they wanted an old Aussie Ford in the game wouldn't a Phase III have made much more sense? Weird having this for anything other than Mad Max fantasies.
That's what I figured. Although my personal preference would be this sunofabitch:
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Love to see a new one as well. One of the latest XR models or even one of the GTs would be nice. Better than what they went with, IMO.
 

saladine1

Junior Member
vanty said:
If they wanted an old Aussie Ford in the game wouldn't a Phase III have made much more sense? Weird having this for anything other than Mad Max fantasies.
Obviously, the Mad Max connection would resonate with more people than just the Aussies so they announced that first as a starter.
According to the rumours, we'll also be getting the XY GTHO Phase 3, HT GTS Monaro and HSV VL Walkinshaw. More than that though, there also must be a Holden Torana (pictured in my avatar) in the mix. There has to be.

The rivalry would like something like this:

Holden HT GTS Monaro vs Ford XY GT Falcon
Holden LH L34 Torana vs Ford XB GT Falcon
Holden LX A9X Torana vs Ford XC Cobra Falcon
Holden HDT VK SS Group A Commodore vs Ford XD Falcon

Anyway, I'm expecting more Aussie cars reveals closer to the Bathurst 1000 race.
 

caramac

Member
So glad Maple Valley has been confirmed. l love time trials on the short track "b" class.
I'd probably be able to retire comfortably if l had £1 for every lap I've done around that track.
 

G Rom

Member
I like how everyone jump at the Kinect only achievement when there's also the FM3 import achievement in there. :lol

BTW, I've wanted to do a gif like this for a long time because each time someone says FM4 is a slight upgrade to FM3, I can only think of this scene (you can thank me later for making this page longer to load) :

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Xanadu

Banned
G Rom said:
I like how everyone jump at the Kinect only achievement when there's also the FM3 import achievement in there. :lol

BTW, I've wanted to do a gif like this for a long time because each time someone says FM4 is a slight upgrade to FM3, I can only think of this scene (you can thank me later for making this page longer to load) :

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6194/6085013805_c94661e177_o.gif[/IM][/QUOTE]
things such as active aero are so small do they really count as a real upgrade? i'd be much happier with forza 4 if they added more tracks because IMO, more tracks>cars
 

G Rom

Member
Yeah, I should have put Image-based lighting or something bigger. :)
Although to me active aero is a very important thing because many cars have it and it adds a lot to realism.
 

OrangeOak

Member
G Rom said:
BTW, I've wanted to do a gif like this for a long time because each time someone says FM4 is a slight upgrade to FM3, I can only think of this scene (you can thank me later for making this page longer to load) :

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6194/6085013805_c94661e177_o.gif[IMG][/QUOTE]

this gif is so great :D
 

G Rom

Member
FM3 wasn't even designed to integrate any DLC in career. This time, we know that DLC cars will be integrated so it's safe to assume that if DLC tracks were to happen, they would be integrated as well.
 

skyfinch

Member
G Rom said:
Yeah, I should have put Image-based lighting or something bigger. :)
Although to me active aero is a very important thing because many cars have it and it adds a lot to realism.

I love subtle things like active aero, swaying trees and grass, backfire, the vibration of the driver's hands even when going in a straight line. Makes the game less stale.

Also happy to see Maple Valley get a nice make-over. What I've always wanted to see on that track are leaves covering most of the track that get kicked up when you drive over them. Remember seeing this in Rallisport 2. Frame rate killer though.

Edit, funny ass gif, G rom
 
I just hope theres more Maple Valley (Full) races this time around.

One of my favorite FM tracks but they always use the (Short) version from my past experiences :/
 

saladine1

Junior Member
fu3lfr3nzy said:
I just hope theres more Maple Valley (Full) races this time around.

One of my favorite FM tracks but they always use the (Short) version from my past experiences :/
I wonder how Turn 10 will structure the tracks in career mode?
We all know that some tracks were under/over used in Fm3 so it'll be interesting to see how they go about if for FM4.
 

h3ro

Member
Frankfurt said:
Complaining about Kinect achievements while being fine with import ones is hilarious. Very telling.

Is it really very telling?

This is a pre-release news/hype thread for an upcoming sequel. Isn't it logical to think it will be filled with fans of the series and thus owners of the previous installment? I think that would better explain why people don't have much of an issue with that Achievement.


Anyway, I'm still missing that last 80 Pointer before reaching S-Rank in F3. I've finished 72% of the career in my 200+ hours and I don't know if I have it in me to finish. Fingers crossed they don't give up a Unicorn for having S-Rank.

I really hope for some new tracks, but its looking more and more likely that we've pretty much seen everything. Sure there will be some tweaks here and there. I was really hoping for a defining track, something like a Spa to really bring in the Motorsport enthusiasts. Sure, the car guys will be there as will Racing game-GAF and I know there is overlap between the three groups, but still. I really wanted to take one of these cars through Eau Rouge.
 

skyfinch

Member
Dan said you can take one car throughout the entire career which I found to be interesting. What if my car was some old civic. Did they really create enough events for me to finish career with this one car?
 

Marco1

Member
Wonderful Gif G Rom, thanks for that.
There will always be things in racing games we want that they won't or can't provide but for me Forza4 will have enough for me to purchase the LE and enjoy it.
I have always wanted a euro hot hatch pack but it has never came but it will have public lobbies and active aero and that's enough for now.
I can't help but feel that T10 are at this point restricted by the hardware and kinect.
Now I know a lot are excited by the kinect but I can't help but feel it went something like, Dan here is kinect, shoehorn it into Forza4 and that's an order at the MS managerial meeting.
 

op_ivy

Fallen Xbot (cannot continue gaining levels in this class)
Marco1 said:
Wonderful Gif G Rom, thanks for that.
There will always be things in racing games we want that they won't or can't provide but for me Forza4 will have enough for me to purchase the LE and enjoy it.
I have always wanted a euro hot hatch pack but it has never came but it will have public lobbies and active aero and that's enough for now.
I can't help but feel that T10 are at this point restricted by the hardware and kinect.
Now I know a lot are excited by the kinect but I can't help but feel it went something like, Dan here is kinect, shoehorn it into Forza4 and that's an order at the MS managerial meeting.

head tracking will be a beautiful thing IMO. i have no doubts i'll use it to race and look into corners, i loved the auto helmet cam in shift 2 after a brief adjustment, and it should make the cockpit view that much more immersive - especially considering that while playing with the wheel you simply could not look around the cars interior in forza 3
 

Marco1

Member
Fair point ivy.
I did not realise it had head tracking but it still won't be enough to entice me to buy kinect and that's what MS want. I would hate to see MS make it more difficult for gamers that don't have kinect but that's a different topic.
 

sneaky77

Member
skyfinch said:
Dan said you can take one car throughout the entire career which I found to be interesting. What if my car was some old civic. Did they really create enough events for me to finish career with this one car?

You can finish the career, but you won't get 100% completion I imagine.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
h3ro said:
Is it really very telling?

This is a pre-release news/hype thread for an upcoming sequel. Isn't it logical to think it will be filled with fans of the series and thus owners of the previous installment? I think that would better explain why people don't have much of an issue with that Achievement.
Yup, its a reward for fans of the franchise. Also bullshit, but considerably less bullshit than having to buy a $150 peripheral to access supplementary content in a game outside of the core experience.
 

The Shift

Banned
Marco1 said:
Fair point ivy.
I did not realise it had head tracking but it still won't be enough to entice me to buy kinect and that's what MS want. I would hate to see MS make it more difficult for gamers that don't have kinect but that's a different topic.

I bought a Kinect specifically for the headtracking in this game - found one cheap (less than half price) Having used TrackIR on PC a few times I could never go back to a static viewpoint, like having my neck fused. Can always pawn the Kinect off if it turns out to be shoddy.
 

Snubbers

Member
enzo_gt said:
Yup, its a reward for fans of the franchise. Also bullshit, but considerably less bullshit than having to buy a $150 peripheral to access supplementary content in a game outside of the core experience.

What supplementary content? It sounds like a few cheevo's for me? Or am I missing something?

Stacks of games make you jump through hoops, all the cheevo's that need you to play Multiplayer etc (Obviously requiring Gold) is rife throughout most games, having Kinect which is in 1/5 xbox households (if the 10 million sold is correct) doesn't sound horrific to me..

(Err.. I do have kinect in the front room for the kids, I guess it's easy for me to be laid back about it, I can just borrow that for 2 mins to do this if I was that bothered!)
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Snubbers said:
What supplementary content? It sounds like a few cheevo's for me? Or am I missing something?

Stacks of games make you jump through hoops, all the cheevo's that need you to play Multiplayer etc (Obviously requiring Gold) is rife throughout most games, having Kinect which is in 1/5 xbox households (if the 10 million sold is correct) doesn't sound horrific to me..

(Err.. I do have kinect in the front room for the kids, I guess it's easy for me to be laid back about it, I can just borrow that for 2 mins to do this if I was that bothered!)
The supplementary content being an alternate way to use Autovista, hyperlinking and head tracking. All not essentials.

Gold/online achievements are a bunch of bullshit too, but I've complained enough about those in the past, there's no avoiding those since they became a mainstay long ago. This can be avoided now, but even still it's likely it won't be.
 
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